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Thread started 07/04/19 11:28am

Dalia11

6.4 Magnitude Earthquake in South California Today.

I just heard on the news. I have some friends who have family in CA. There have been several earthquakes in Cali in the past. I everyone is safe and take precautions.
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Reply #1 posted 07/04/19 11:32am

onlyforaminute

Wha? My butt slept right through it. Nothing's outta place.
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Reply #2 posted 07/04/19 12:18pm

Dalia11

It happened in Ridgecrest, San Bernadino County.
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Reply #3 posted 07/04/19 12:22pm

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They are saying that this was the strongest Earthquake in 20 years.
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Reply #4 posted 07/04/19 12:40pm

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Reply #5 posted 07/04/19 12:44pm

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Aw, 150 miles north of LA. We're about 300 miles south of LA so that's too far away. Wonder if folks in LA felt it.
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Reply #6 posted 07/04/19 1:28pm

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Some injuries reported. The news are showing footage of the cracked ground, a house fire and some videos that people posted on YouTube.
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Reply #7 posted 07/04/19 2:17pm

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Some felt it in LA and Los Vegas. They are saying that after shocks will be felt and that another earthquake is possible in another area in the next few days.

Also, they will investigate why there was not a warning sent out to certain areas.
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Reply #8 posted 07/04/19 7:20pm

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They declared a state of emergency for the county affected by the earthquake.
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Reply #9 posted 07/05/19 11:47am

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My first real earthquake experience. It felt like I was on a boat except I was in my house. Started noticing things moving and then everything in my house was moving.

Kind of bothered that my first instinct was NOT to get out of the house. Just felt like I watching a movie that I was in, hard to describe, it was weird.

Just glad nobody was hurt, if it had lasted longer it would have been comparable to the Northridge quake.

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Reply #10 posted 07/05/19 3:15pm

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Seen the pictures. The folks there are unnerved. The funny thing is all my life ive experienced minor earthquakes and i still do that freeze pose because at first you're not sure if you're experiencing the ground moving or a sonic boom, we used to get those a lot too. I think most people feel the odds are better in an earthquake than other natural disruptions. Panic is your worse enemy.
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Reply #11 posted 07/05/19 8:29pm

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Another 7.1 eathquake just happened 5 minutes ago here in Las Vegas!
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Reply #12 posted 07/06/19 12:29am

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luv2tha99s said:

Another 7.1 eathquake just happened 5 minutes ago here in Las Vegas!


^ It was epicentered in Ridgecrest, not Vegas. The 7.1 is now considered the main quake with the 6.4 being a prequel to that.

I was driving when it hit tonight and didn't feel it, but felt one aftershock. My building is on bedrock/granite so the shock is well asorbed.

In Ridgecrest there are a few fires, power outtages and some structural damage but ony minor injuries so far.

Lucy Jones from CalTech says the quakes on this fault line amay move Northwest which is a sacrcely populated area. But poor Ridgecrest is feeling the brunt of it.

Like most peeps, I have my earthquake pack at the ready, but these big quakes remind me that I need to update it with fresh supplies. wink

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Reply #13 posted 07/06/19 8:26am

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That 7.1 seemed to last a lot longer with more aftershocks.

Watching parked cars bounce around and houses shake is a surreal experience.

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luv2tha99s said:


Another 7.1 eathquake just happened 5 minutes ago here in Las Vegas!


^ It was epicentered in Ridgecrest, not Vegas. The 7.1 is now considered the main quake with the 6.4 being a prequel to that.

I was driving when it hit tonight and didn't feel it, but felt one aftershock. My building is on bedrock/granite so the shock is well asorbed.

In Ridgecrest there are a few fires, power outtages and some structural damage but ony minor injuries so far.

Lucy Jones from CalTech says the quakes on this fault line amay move Northwest which is a sacrcely populated area. But poor Ridgecrest is feeling the brunt of it.

Like most peeps, I have my earthquake pack at the ready, but these big quakes remind me that I need to update it with fresh supplies. wink


I know where it was centered captain obvious. Im saying we felt it here, duh.
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Reply #15 posted 07/06/19 9:21am

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S2DG said:

That 7.1 seemed to last a lot longer with more aftershocks.

Watching parked cars bounce around and houses shake is a surreal experience.


Yeah, and if it lasted any longer I'd be worried about gas or water line breaks.

I'd be worried if I worked in a high rise building in LA SF or SD, but luckily we don't have too many high rise buildings.

One thing I'm worried about is I've seen a lot of new giant tilt-up concrete warehouses going up like weeds. I know that they have to have passed a rigorous engineering, testing process, but as someone with a lot concrete experience, I am still doubtful these survive unscathed in a major earthquake withou massive damage. And luckily these buildings don't have a lot of people in them. (Relatively)

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Reply #16 posted 07/06/19 11:34am

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I despise this new numbering system. It means nothing to the average person. A 7.1 used to mean buildings and freeways have collapsed, main breaks, lots of upheaval. Now it can mean anything from rattled nerves, to major damage. Your dealing with other locations where entire neighborhoods are gone in an instant.
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Reply #17 posted 07/06/19 12:09pm

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onlyforaminute said:

I despise this new numbering system. It means nothing to the average person. A 7.1 used to mean buildings and freeways have collapsed, main breaks, lots of upheaval. Now it can mean anything from rattled nerves, to major damage. Your dealing with other locations where entire neighborhoods are gone in an instant.


I haven’t followed the naming changes. What are the differences?

I know that epicenter matters, The specific epicenter and surrounding area matters a lot. So having the epicenter in the middle of empty desert isn’t going to do much damage or effect many people hundreds miles away.
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Reply #18 posted 07/06/19 12:36pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

onlyforaminute said:

I despise this new numbering system. It means nothing to the average person. A 7.1 used to mean buildings and freeways have collapsed, main breaks, lots of upheaval. Now it can mean anything from rattled nerves, to major damage. Your dealing with other locations where entire neighborhoods are gone in an instant.


I haven’t followed the naming changes. What are the differences?

I know that epicenter matters, The specific epicenter and surrounding area matters a lot. So having the epicenter in the middle of empty desert isn’t going to do much damage or effect many people hundreds miles away.



It's been my experience that quakes reported at those numbers are definitely felt on large scales at great distances by more than a few people. And i mean really unmistakably felt. Now seems a few other things are included in those numbers. Say like 87 Whittier or 94 Northridge quakes were, per the numbeers, several times less intense yet buildings and houses actually came down, streets and mains were broken, it wasn't just a lot of shaking and stuff falling off shelves.
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onlyforaminute said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:
I haven’t followed the naming changes. What are the differences? I know that epicenter matters, The specific epicenter and surrounding area matters a lot. So having the epicenter in the middle of empty desert isn’t going to do much damage or effect many people hundreds miles away.
It's been my experience that quakes reported at those numbers are definitely felt on large scales at great distances by more than a few people. And i mean really unmistakably felt. Now seems a few other things are included in those numbers. Say like 87 Whittier or 94 Northridge quakes were, per the numbeers, several times less intense yet buildings and houses actually came down, streets and mains were broken, it wasn't just a lot of shaking and stuff falling off shelves.



Like I said, epicenter matters. Whittier and Northridge are highly populated areas in LA. And there are a lot of other factors such as what is down below. What is sitting up above.

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Reply #20 posted 07/06/19 2:39pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:



onlyforaminute said:


Ugot2shakesumthin said:
I haven’t followed the naming changes. What are the differences? I know that epicenter matters, The specific epicenter and surrounding area matters a lot. So having the epicenter in the middle of empty desert isn’t going to do much damage or effect many people hundreds miles away.

It's been my experience that quakes reported at those numbers are definitely felt on large scales at great distances by more than a few people. And i mean really unmistakably felt. Now seems a few other things are included in those numbers. Say like 87 Whittier or 94 Northridge quakes were, per the numbeers, several times less intense yet buildings and houses actually came down, streets and mains were broken, it wasn't just a lot of shaking and stuff falling off shelves.



Like I said, epicenter matters. Whittier and Northridge are highly populated areas in LA. And there are a lot of other factors such as what is down below. What is sitting up above.



Yeah I get that. But as I aaid based on my experience. In 87 I was in Long Beach, in 94 I was in SD and we knew without a doubt a major quake had taken place. Over the past few months entire neighborhoods have been wiped away in this country alone weird to emphasize some rattling.
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onlyforaminute said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:



Like I said, epicenter matters. Whittier and Northridge are highly populated areas in LA. And there are a lot of other factors such as what is down below. What is sitting up above.

Yeah I get that. But as I aaid based on my experience. In 87 I was in Long Beach, in 94 I was in SD and we knew without a doubt a major quake had taken place. Over the past few months entire neighborhoods have been wiped away in this country alone weird to emphasize some rattling.

Yes I remember those too, but the damage as in those cities or near the epicenter.

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Reply #22 posted 07/07/19 7:59am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

S2DG said:

That 7.1 seemed to last a lot longer with more aftershocks.

Watching parked cars bounce around and houses shake is a surreal experience.


Yeah, and if it lasted any longer I'd be worried about gas or water line breaks.

I'd be worried if I worked in a high rise building in LA SF or SD, but luckily we don't have too many high rise buildings.

One thing I'm worried about is I've seen a lot of new giant tilt-up concrete warehouses going up like weeds. I know that they have to have passed a rigorous engineering, testing process, but as someone with a lot concrete experience, I am still doubtful these survive unscathed in a major earthquake withou massive damage. And luckily these buildings don't have a lot of people in them. (Relatively)


Thought the same thing as new buildings are being built all over the place. Don't think I would want to be in a 35 story building when the earth is shaking. There's a 30 + building going up by me and the floors look 5 to 8 inches thick of concrete and that's it. I don't know enough about earthquake construction to know how this is safe but they were still building it yesterday so I guess they had no issues.

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Reply #23 posted 07/07/19 6:29pm

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Seems there are a few designs all are about making the building flexible to movement. The high rise i was in during Northridge it was explained afterwards it's foundation was built on some kind of rollers so the building rolls a bit when the ground moves and it's framed was built to sway which is what we felt a lot of swaying, it was an odd sensation. I'm definitely not an expert, i just accept that they build all these with earthquakes in mind.
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onlyforaminute said:

Seems there are a few designs all are about making the building flexible to movement. The high rise i was in during Northridge it was explained afterwards it's foundation was built on some kind of rollers so the building rolls a bit when the ground moves and it's framed was built to sway which is what we felt a lot of swaying, it was an odd sensation. I'm definitely not an expert, i just accept that they build all these with earthquakes in mind.


Yes highrise buildings are designed to move and sway.

the reason I mentioned the concrete tilt-up warehouses, is that they just look primitive. They are built quickly and relatively cheaply out of reinforced concrete and look scary dangerous in case of earthquake. No rollers under these, and not designed to sway. If these things sway in any way, tons of concrete and steel will come crashing down.

If there is one thing I know about concrete beside it being heavy, is that we can always guarantee that it will crack, and we can always guarantee that rebar will rust.

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Reply #25 posted 07/08/19 4:36pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:



onlyforaminute said:


Seems there are a few designs all are about making the building flexible to movement. The high rise i was in during Northridge it was explained afterwards it's foundation was built on some kind of rollers so the building rolls a bit when the ground moves and it's framed was built to sway which is what we felt a lot of swaying, it was an odd sensation. I'm definitely not an expert, i just accept that they build all these with earthquakes in mind.


Yes highrise buildings are designed to move and sway.



the reason I mentioned the concrete tilt-up warehouses, is that they just look primitive. They are built quickly and relatively cheaply out of reinforced concrete and look scary dangerous in case of earthquake. No rollers under these, and not designed to sway. If these things sway in any way, tons of concrete and steel will come crashing down.


If there is one thing I know about concrete beside it being heavy, is that we can always guarantee that it will crack, and we can always guarantee that rebar will rust.



I just take what they tell me. I've been living in earthquake country my entire life, lived with the random shaking , the floor rolling beneath my feet, by grace never been at ground zero. Unfortunately we'll never know for sure until the big one happens but earthquakes are nothing new there are supposed to be building codes in place here.

It took me a minute to really grasp the media hype surrounding this. They're trying to get people to take putting together their own emergency kits seriously. The population has risen far larger than the emergency services can handle in case of a major disaster. People will be on their own for a while. Make or buy your kits and have a plan.
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DiminutiveRocker said:


^ It was epicentered in Ridgecrest, not Vegas. The 7.1 is now considered the main quake with the 6.4 being a prequel to that.

I was driving when it hit tonight and didn't feel it, but felt one aftershock. My building is on bedrock/granite so the shock is well asorbed.

In Ridgecrest there are a few fires, power outtages and some structural damage but ony minor injuries so far.

Lucy Jones from CalTech says the quakes on this fault line amay move Northwest which is a sacrcely populated area. But poor Ridgecrest is feeling the brunt of it.

Like most peeps, I have my earthquake pack at the ready, but these big quakes remind me that I need to update it with fresh supplies. wink

I know where it was centered captain obvious. Im saying we felt it here, duh.

then say so!

"Another 7.1 eathquake just happened 5 minutes ago here in Las Vegas!"
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Reply #27 posted 07/18/19 5:34pm

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We had a 4.4 2 days ago. epicenter Blackhawk. Large favorite vase jumped out of the dish drainer and broke loudly.

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PeggyO said:

We had a 4.4 2 days ago. epicenter Blackhawk. Large favorite vase jumped out of the dish drainer and broke loudly.

sad Bummer. I had been collecting unusual antique salt and pepper shakers from flea markets and in the 1994 Northridge quake they all flew off the shelf and I listened while 3/4 of them broke into peices. Felt like a giant had picked up my house and was shaking it like a snow globe. In the end I was thankful *that* was the extent of the damages I personally incurred.

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Reply #29 posted 07/19/19 2:02pm

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I happened to be in Vegas during both earthquakes and I felt them there omg For the first one I was on the 17th fl of my hotel. I looked out of the window and against my mountain-view backdrop. I could quite literally see our entire building slowly swaying side to side. The door to my armoire (with a full length mirror) was open and it was swaying open and shut. My curtains even moved down the rungs a little bit. I have experienced earthquakes before - although never this high up - and I knew immediately what was happening. It scares me so much because in that moment you just don't know what is coming next ('is it going to get stronger?') You are just kind of in limbo waiting (and praying) for it to stop, and those 30 seconds or whatever feel instead like hours. The next evening (Friday) was the 7.1 earthquake. This time I was on the mezzanine level of the hotel, attending a show/dinner. They stopped the show during the performance for about a half hour. The large overhead spotlights were swaying pretty strongly, and since they were located directly above my table, we were asked to leave our seats for the remainder of the show (liability, etc.). The stage props were also moving all over the place.

To say it was unnerving is an understatement!

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