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poppys

H & M ad stumbles and falls

https://sports.yahoo.com/...46386.html

LeBron James blasts H&M ad featuring black child wearing hoodie with 'monkey' inscription

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LeBron James is the latest to weigh-in on a tone-deaf ad from H&M featuring a young black model wearing a hoodie with the inscription “coolest monkey in the jungle.”

The NBA superstar joined a chorus of criticism that prompted the clothier to take down the ad from its UK website and remove the product from its line.

“We understand that many people are upset about the image,” an H&M representative told The Wrap. “We, who work at H&M, can only agree. We are deeply sorry that the picture was taken, and we also regret the actual print. Therefore, we have not only removed the image from our channels, but also the garment from our product offering globally.”

He shared a repurposed version of the ad replacing its racist undertones with a positive message that he posted on Instagram.

Rapper Chris Classic first shared the edited v... of the ad, but the words in James’ Instagram post are his own.

“Enough about y’all and more about what I see when I look at this photo,” James wrote. I see a Young King!! The ruler of the world, an untouchable Force that can never be denied.”

The ad prompted musician The Weeknd to sever ties with H&M, whom he had worked with in the past.


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Reply #1 posted 01/09/18 5:34am

maplenpg

poppys said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/...46386.html

LeBron James blasts H&M ad featuring black child wearing hoodie with 'monkey' inscription

53276f25283a7e8975fd22a6f9862238
LeBron James is the latest to weigh-in on a tone-deaf ad from H&M featuring a young black model wearing a hoodie with the inscription “coolest monkey in the jungle.”

The NBA superstar joined a chorus of criticism that prompted the clothier to take down the ad from its UK website and remove the product from its line.

“We understand that many people are upset about the image,” an H&M representative told The Wrap. “We, who work at H&M, can only agree. We are deeply sorry that the picture was taken, and we also regret the actual print. Therefore, we have not only removed the image from our channels, but also the garment from our product offering globally.”

He shared a repurposed version of the ad replacing its racist undertones with a positive message that he posted on Instagram.

Rapper Chris Classic first shared the edited v... of the ad, but the words in James’ Instagram post are his own.

“Enough about y’all and more about what I see when I look at this photo,” James wrote. I see a Young King!! The ruler of the world, an untouchable Force that can never be denied.”

The ad prompted musician The Weeknd to sever ties with H&M, whom he had worked with in the past.


[Edited 1/9/18 5:07am]

Nevermind.

[Edited 1/9/18 5:35am]

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Reply #2 posted 01/09/18 2:38pm

Dasein

I fucks with H & M. So, lemme play devil's advocate:

Is it possible that the word "monkey" doesn't carry the hurtful racial stereotype in Europe
as it does in the US? I ask this question because I lived in London for a year and Asians
were referred to as "Orientals" which would be considered scandalous here in the States.

That being said, I do know that football fans in Europe often refer to Black footballers as
"monkeys" for the specific purpose of being racially antagonistic.

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Reply #3 posted 01/09/18 3:07pm

jjhunsecker

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Dasein said:

I fucks with H & M. So, lemme play devil's advocate:

Is it possible that the word "monkey" doesn't carry the hurtful racial stereotype in Europe
as it does in the US? I ask this question because I lived in London for a year and Asians
were referred to as "Orientals" which would be considered scandalous here in the States.

That being said, I do know that football fans in Europe often refer to Black footballers as
"monkeys" for the specific purpose of being racially antagonistic.



I think the racist comparison of Black people to simians is a world wide phenomenon. Can't believe that they were that clueless, especially with their significant non-white population
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Reply #4 posted 01/09/18 3:19pm

NorthC

Dasein said:

I fucks with H & M. So, lemme play devil's advocate:

Is it possible that the word "monkey" doesn't carry the hurtful racial stereotype in Europe
as it does in the US? I ask this question because I lived in London for a year and Asians
were referred to as "Orientals" which would be considered scandalous here in the States.

That being said, I do know that football fans in Europe often refer to Black footballers as
"monkeys" for the specific purpose of being racially antagonistic.


Oh yeah, it happens in Holland too, people making "jungle noises" at black football players.
At the same time, I'm getting a bit tired of people shouting "racism!" all the time. If it was a white boy wearing the same sweater, no one would have bothered. And now, all of a sudden, it's a problem...
"If you have men who will only come if they know there is a good road, I don't want them. I want men who will come if there is no road at all."
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Reply #5 posted 01/09/18 5:24pm

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NorthC said:

Dasein said:

I fucks with H & M. So, lemme play devil's advocate:

Is it possible that the word "monkey" doesn't carry the hurtful racial stereotype in Europe
as it does in the US? I ask this question because I lived in London for a year and Asians
were referred to as "Orientals" which would be considered scandalous here in the States.

That being said, I do know that football fans in Europe often refer to Black footballers as
"monkeys" for the specific purpose of being racially antagonistic.

Oh yeah, it happens in Holland too, people making "jungle noises" at black football players. At the same time, I'm getting a bit tired of people shouting "racism!" all the time. If it was a white boy wearing the same sweater, no one would have bothered. And now, all of a sudden, it's a problem...

How racism has fucked up everything. Agree with you. The boy is beautiful.

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Reply #6 posted 01/09/18 5:29pm

morningsong

Every once in a while one of these companies try's to see how far they can push the envelope. There seems to be a need for a global push on race relations, not just localized, like there is a global push for many other things.

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Reply #7 posted 01/09/18 5:48pm

jjhunsecker

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NorthC said:

Dasein said:

I fucks with H & M. So, lemme play devil's advocate:

Is it possible that the word "monkey" doesn't carry the hurtful racial stereotype in Europe
as it does in the US? I ask this question because I lived in London for a year and Asians
were referred to as "Orientals" which would be considered scandalous here in the States.

That being said, I do know that football fans in Europe often refer to Black footballers as
"monkeys" for the specific purpose of being racially antagonistic.


Oh yeah, it happens in Holland too, people making "jungle noises" at black football players.
At the same time, I'm getting a bit tired of people shouting "racism!" all the time. If it was a white boy wearing the same sweater, no one would have bothered. And now, all of a sudden, it's a problem...


Perhaps because there is no history of white people consistently compared to apes and gorillas and monkeys
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Reply #8 posted 01/09/18 6:35pm

poppys

jjhunsecker said:

NorthC said:
Oh yeah, it happens in Holland too, people making "jungle noises" at black football players. At the same time, I'm getting a bit tired of people shouting "racism!" all the time. If it was a white boy wearing the same sweater, no one would have bothered. And now, all of a sudden, it's a problem...
Perhaps because there is no history of white people consistently compared to apes and gorillas and monkeys

I'm sorry that's true jj.

This is a direct result of not enough diversity aka POC (and women imo) in the boardroom, top administrative positions and creative directors who know their history. I'm sorry, but coming from an advertising background, this is just appalling. If this was Madmen, they'd be so fired. And that was a period piece.

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Reply #9 posted 01/09/18 7:14pm

Dasein

jjhunsecker said:

Dasein said:

I fucks with H & M. So, lemme play devil's advocate:

Is it possible that the word "monkey" doesn't carry the hurtful racial stereotype in Europe
as it does in the US? I ask this question because I lived in London for a year and Asians
were referred to as "Orientals" which would be considered scandalous here in the States.

That being said, I do know that football fans in Europe often refer to Black footballers as
"monkeys" for the specific purpose of being racially antagonistic.

I think the racist comparison of Black people to simians is a world wide phenomenon. Can't believe that they were that clueless, especially with their significant non-white population


Agreed.

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Reply #10 posted 01/09/18 7:15pm

Dasein

jjhunsecker said:

NorthC said:
Oh yeah, it happens in Holland too, people making "jungle noises" at black football players. At the same time, I'm getting a bit tired of people shouting "racism!" all the time. If it was a white boy wearing the same sweater, no one would have bothered. And now, all of a sudden, it's a problem...
Perhaps because there is no history of white people consistently compared to apes and gorillas and monkeys


Right.


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Reply #11 posted 01/09/18 7:31pm

2elijah

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NorthC said:

Dasein said:

I fucks with H & M. So, lemme play devil's advocate:

Is it possible that the word "monkey" doesn't carry the hurtful racial stereotype in Europe
as it does in the US? I ask this question because I lived in London for a year and Asians
were referred to as "Orientals" which would be considered scandalous here in the States.

That being said, I do know that football fans in Europe often refer to Black footballers as
"monkeys" for the specific purpose of being racially antagonistic.


Oh yeah, it happens in Holland too, people making "jungle noises" at black football players.
At the same time, I'm getting a bit tired of people shouting "racism!" all the time. If it was a white boy wearing the same sweater, no one would have bothered. And now, all of a sudden, it's a problem...

That’s because it is racist. You could stop getting tired of people screaming racism, when idiots like that stop promoting that kind of ish. H&M knew exactly what they were doing when they did that. They knew where the reaction would come from.
FEARLESS
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Reply #12 posted 01/09/18 7:38pm

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Meanwhile....

https://www.google.com/am...ds-sweater


The Weeknd Cuts Ties With H&M Over Racially Insensitive Kids' Sweater
By: MCKENNA AIELLO
Mon., Jan. 8, 2018 1:16 PM PST

The Weeknd has ended his partnership with H&M over an advertisement labeled by many as racially insensitive.

The retailer sparked backlash after depicting a black child model in a sweatshirt that read "Coolest Monkey in the Jungle," prompting the hip-hop artist to release a statement of his own condemning H&M's choice.

"woke up this morning shocked and embarrassed by this photo," The Weeknd tweeted. "i'm deeply offended and will not be working with @hm anymore..."

*****+**+

https://www.google.com/am...-john/amp/


Diddy Offers H&M Model $1 Million Dollar Contract With Sean John
Written By Olivia Butler
13 hours ago


In the wake of all the H&M drama, Diddy has posted a picture of the same young black model with the caption reading “Coolest King in the world”.

According to Hip Hop Overload, reports are that Diddy reached out to the young man in the photo and offered him a Million dollar deal to sign with Sean John. We don’t know if the boy has accepted yet, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that this is an amazing gesture by Diddy!
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FEARLESS
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Reply #13 posted 01/09/18 7:57pm

poppys

2elijah said:

Meanwhile.... https://www.google.com/am...ds-sweater The Weeknd Cuts Ties With H&M Over Racially Insensitive Kids' Sweater By: MCKENNA AIELLO Mon., Jan. 8, 2018 1:16 PM PST The Weeknd has ended his partnership with H&M over an advertisement labeled by many as racially insensitive. The retailer sparked backlash after depicting a black child model in a sweatshirt that read "Coolest Monkey in the Jungle," prompting the hip-hop artist to release a statement of his own condemning H&M's choice. "woke up this morning shocked and embarrassed by this photo," The Weeknd tweeted. "i'm deeply offended and will not be working with @hm anymore..." **************************************+**+ https://www.google.com/am...-john/amp/ Diddy Offers H&M Model $1 Million Dollar Contract With Sean John Written By Olivia Butler 13 hours ago In the wake of all the H&M drama, Diddy has posted a picture of the same young black model with the caption reading “Coolest King in the world”. According to Hip Hop Overload, reports are that Diddy reached out to the young man in the photo and offered him a Million dollar deal to sign with Sean John. We don’t know if the boy has accepted yet, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that this is an amazing gesture by Diddy! [Edited 1/9/18 19:41pm]

woot!

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Reply #14 posted 01/09/18 8:16pm

poppys

morningsong said:

Every once in a while one of these companies try's to see how far they can push the envelope. There seems to be a need for a global push on race relations, not just localized, like there is a global push for many other things.

What do you mean by global push on race relations? What envelope does this image push? Don't quite understand.

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Reply #15 posted 01/10/18 6:05am

uPtoWnNY

jjhunsecker said:

NorthC said:
Oh yeah, it happens in Holland too, people making "jungle noises" at black football players. At the same time, I'm getting a bit tired of people shouting "racism!" all the time. If it was a white boy wearing the same sweater, no one would have bothered. And now, all of a sudden, it's a problem...
Perhaps because there is no history of white people consistently compared to apes and gorillas and monkeys

Exactly. and to those who are tired of folks shouting racism.....well, I'M tired of still dealing with bullshit like this.

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Reply #16 posted 01/10/18 2:34pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

jjhunsecker said:

NorthC said: Perhaps because there is no history of white people consistently compared to apes and gorillas and monkeys

Exactly. and to those who are tired of folks shouting racism.....well, I'M tired of still dealing with bullshit like this.

After so many years and so much blood shed by racism is a crime we as human beings are still dealing with this shit, indeed.

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Reply #17 posted 01/10/18 2:45pm

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Somebody brought up the comment "I guess his parents didnt care what the hell was on his shirt they just wanted that money".

TRUTH

Anyway I still love H&M..its my favorite clothing store but Ill be staying out of there until this blows over. I am suprised with as many mixed people that work there..even a trans person rang me up once.

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Reply #18 posted 01/10/18 4:02pm

poppys

The first commandment in the advertising bible is know who your customer is. Obviously, LeBron's kids won't be wearing these.

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Reply #19 posted 01/10/18 5:01pm

morningsong

poppys said:

morningsong said:

Every once in a while one of these companies try's to see how far they can push the envelope. There seems to be a need for a global push on race relations, not just localized, like there is a global push for many other things.

What do you mean by global push on race relations? What envelope does this image push? Don't quite understand.



Global, because movie makers in the US claim it's the foreign market that prevents them from using female and non-white leads, because of ads like this. Envelope, because this ad is obvious and this company knows there will be no real boycotting of their product so what do they lose if someone doesn't like an ad? An apology?

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Reply #20 posted 01/11/18 7:28am

poppys

morningsong said:

poppys said:

What do you mean by global push on race relations? What envelope does this image push? Don't quite understand.



Global, because movie makers in the US claim it's the foreign market that prevents them from using female and non-white leads, because of ads like this. Envelope, because this ad is obvious and this company knows there will be no real boycotting of their product so what do they lose if someone doesn't like an ad? An apology?

Why because of ads like this? I still dont get it. You are saying Europe wants to make ads like this and tha's why the US won't put POC in movie leads?

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Reply #21 posted 01/11/18 8:04am

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paisleypark4 said:

Somebody brought up the comment "I guess his parents didnt care what the hell was on his shirt they just wanted that money".

TRUTH

Anyway I still love H&M..its my favorite clothing store but Ill be staying out of there until this blows over. I am suprised with as many mixed people that work there..even a trans person rang me up once.

The boy´s mom supports H&M and does not see the racism behind this.

But I expected a reaction like that.

By the way, I find the way most people, especially white people, deal with this much more saddening than what H&M did. This "get over it, it´s not racist" attitude.

I think if there´s a history of calling black people monkeys, then black people have every right to complain about this ad. And it´s very arrogant to tell other people what they should or shouldn´t be offended of.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"




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Reply #22 posted 01/11/18 8:09am

paisleypark4

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KoolEaze said:

paisleypark4 said:

Somebody brought up the comment "I guess his parents didnt care what the hell was on his shirt they just wanted that money".

TRUTH

Anyway I still love H&M..its my favorite clothing store but Ill be staying out of there until this blows over. I am suprised with as many mixed people that work there..even a trans person rang me up once.

The boy´s mom supports H&M and does not see the racism behind this.

But I expected a reaction like that.

By the way, I find the way most people, especially white people, deal with this much more saddening than what H&M did. This "get over it, it´s not racist" attitude.

I think if there´s a history of calling black people monkeys, then black people have every right to complain about this ad. And it´s very arrogant to tell other people what they should or shouldn´t be offended of.

Right do we ever tell Native, Hispanic or Asian people how they should feel? NO...its from obervation Caucasian people always doing such a thing. Like, stay the hell out of things ya don't understand.

Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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Reply #23 posted 01/11/18 8:37am

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I see how bad this is. I agree they messed it up. Being in the UK maybe they did not get the issue? And it was and is also a bit bigoted to assume the worst and just deem it in its worst possible light.


I hope the kid was paid well and that the Sean really did offer him a contract to model...

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #24 posted 01/11/18 8:43am

maplenpg

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I see how bad this is. I agree they messed it up. Being in the UK maybe they did not get the issue? And it was and is also a bit bigoted to assume the worst and just deem it in its worst possible light.


I hope the kid was paid well and that the Sean really did offer him a contract to model...

Nah - people in the Uk get the issue

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Reply #25 posted 01/11/18 8:46am

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maplenpg said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I see how bad this is. I agree they messed it up. Being in the UK maybe they did not get the issue? And it was and is also a bit bigoted to assume the worst and just deem it in its worst possible light.


I hope the kid was paid well and that the Sean really did offer him a contract to model...

Nah - people in the Uk get the issue

if you say so... i have no real idea. but it was said that it was not as well known. But again they messed this up bigly.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #26 posted 01/11/18 9:51am

morningsong

poppys said:

morningsong said:



Global, because movie makers in the US claim it's the foreign market that prevents them from using female and non-white leads, because of ads like this. Envelope, because this ad is obvious and this company knows there will be no real boycotting of their product so what do they lose if someone doesn't like an ad? An apology?

Why because of ads like this? I still dont get it. You are saying Europe wants to make ads like this and tha's why the US won't put POC in movie leads?




I'm taking more than this thread in consideration. There have been many similar threads regarding race around the world other than the US.

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Reply #27 posted 01/11/18 10:47am

poppys

morningsong said:

poppys said:

Why because of ads like this? I still dont get it. You are saying Europe wants to make ads like this and that's why the US won't put POC in movie leads?




I'm taking more than this thread in consideration. There have been many similar threads regarding race around the world other than the US.

What about my question? I can't figure out your exact point.

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Reply #28 posted 01/11/18 10:51am

poppys

paisleypark4 said:

KoolEaze said:

The boy´s mom supports H&M and does not see the racism behind this.

But I expected a reaction like that.

By the way, I find the way most people, especially white people, deal with this much more saddening than what H&M did. This "get over it, it´s not racist" attitude.

I think if there´s a history of calling black people monkeys, then black people have every right to complain about this ad. And it´s very arrogant to tell other people what they should or shouldn´t be offended of.

Right do we ever tell Native, Hispanic or Asian people how they should feel? NO...its from obervation Caucasian people always doing such a thing. Like, stay the hell out of things ya don't understand.

You're kidding right? You didn't see what happened to Pharrell when he showed up in a Native American headdress?

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Reply #29 posted 01/11/18 10:52am

morningsong

poppys said:

paisleypark4 said:

Right do we ever tell Native, Hispanic or Asian people how they should feel? NO...its from obervation Caucasian people always doing such a thing. Like, stay the hell out of things ya don't understand.

You're kidding right? You didn't see what happened to Pharrell when he showed up in a Native American headdress?



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http://prince.org/msg/105/450566

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