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Reply #330 posted 01/13/18 2:09pm

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REMINDER - The president of the United States of America said he did not want any black or brown immigrants, but did want white immigrants.

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Reply #331 posted 01/13/18 2:16pm

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Poor Michael Wolff. No one is talking about him & his book anymore. sad

Yeah, pretty good bait & switch whether intentional or not, and no way to tell. Starting a race war is always a good divide and conquer tactic.

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Reply #332 posted 01/13/18 2:37pm

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U.S. air strikes aimed at countering extremist organizations in Africa and the Middle East more than doubled under President Donald Trump, according to a new report.

http://www.newsweek.com/president-trumps-war-terror-sees-air-strikes-double-752615

Trump Administration Offers $60 Million To Help Several African Nations Fight Terrorism

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/31/561246158/trump-administration-offers-60-million-to-help-several-african-nations-fight-ter
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Reply #333 posted 01/13/18 2:42pm

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Poor Michael Wolff. No one is talking about him & his book anymore. sad

Yeah, pretty good bait & switch whether intentional or not, and no way to tell. Starting a race war is always a good divide and conquer tactic.


I'm wondering if it was intentional on Trump's part, considering reports of his reaction to the hoopla that was stirred up over his comments. It was reported that he was calling his friends, allies, etc., afterwards and was in good spirits about the whole thing.

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Reply #334 posted 01/13/18 2:43pm

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REMINDER - The president of the United States of America said he did not want any black or brown immigrants, but did want white immigrants.

Africa becomes the new battleground for ISIS and al-Qaeda as they lose ground in Mideast

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/10/25/africa-becomes-new-battleground-isis-and-al-qaeda-they-lose-ground-mideast/796148001/
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Reply #335 posted 01/13/18 3:06pm

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Whether you like it or not, you are defending his alleged racism by your comments. There is no doubt he is racist. His comments and actions have time and time again proved it.

All words, combinations of words, sentences etc... carry meaning. It might be that single words alone have one meaning but, when placed with other words the meaning changes. It might be that through language evolution the meaning of a word changes over time. In this case, we need not just to concentrate on one word, but on the whole message. There as been a BBC article over here (UK) which I will quote from:


"A statement is racist when it explicitly denigrates and/or asserts as true a negative, longstanding stereotype about an entire group of people, signal
led by the colour of their skin. "Shithole" fits the bill in the vilest way. Those who manage with a straight face to say Trump's words were not racist no doubt will point out that he did not specify that black people from these countries are shitholes. But, he did not have to.

We have longstanding and differential associations between the colours white and black. For much of our recent history, white has always represented all that is pure, clean, desirable. These associations are found in the language of our dictionaries, the one-time definition of Africa as the "dark continent", and the way we demarcated slaves from non-slaves throughout the slave trade.

[...] Because of these longstanding and pervasive associations between black and white, Trump need only connect a few dots to express his racism. Denigrate immigrants from countries like Africa and Haiti as shitholes with no value, then specify their opposite - people from "Norway". Even a little girl can see what the primary difference is between the two."

In addition to this, you say that you have used the word, and that you will likely use it again. I hate to break it to you DJ but you are not the president of the USA. If Trump had used those words to describe a poor, white area of the US then I suspect there would have been uproar too (but I suspect he wouldn't do this). As president, Trump needs to realise that using layman's language, taboo language or slang (call it what you will), portrays an image of someone who is uneducated, someone who can ony communicate at the lowest level, and someone who is not communicating with world leaders but with the man on the street, who he knows will defend him, even if they disagree with the term he used. A shithole has the darkest connotations - in truth we shouldn't be using the term for any geographic area at all, white or black. It would have been entirely different if Trump had questioned, using neutral language, why the immigration policy was different for some countries than others but, using the syntax he used, Trump blatently displayed his racism. To deny that is to defend him (especially given all of his other racist comments so far). Trump clearly wants a white America, that started a while back with the travel ban, and Rodeo's interpretation of the comments was spot-on.

EDIT TO ADD: Even if you still disagree, then agree that the fact is, as president, he shouldn't be using any language that has any ambiguity at all, especially when he knows the spotlight is already on him for being a racist president. He could easily have discussed the immigration policies without using that choice of language.



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No. I am not defending the trumpclown nor am I defending any racism. Whether you like it or not, I merely pointed out that by definition the word shithole is not a racist word because it's a word to describe places, not people. As for your last paragraph, I ALREADY agreed that he shouldn't have used the word, and stated that it was unpresidential. I find him and his words to be an embarassment for the entire country. Anybody who believes that I am defending HIM or his choice of words either has a severe reading disability or is choosing to be willfully obtuse.



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It's crystal clear that Thunder is not defending Trump, in fact he is right shithole is not a racist term by any means, but boy if it's offensive, quite offensive but not racist.

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Reply #336 posted 01/13/18 3:13pm

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214 said:

It's crystal clear that Thunder is not defending Trump, in fact he is right shithole is not a racist term by any means, but boy if it's offensive, quite offensive but not racist.


It's absolutely an offensive thing for a president (or any public official) to say.

It's completely unexcusable. The fool has no concept of diplomacy.



[Edited 1/13/18 15:34pm]

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Reply #337 posted 01/13/18 4:45pm

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Poor Michael Wolff. No one is talking about him & his book anymore. sad

Lol, he’s made a big sum of money, and many back orders at book stores. But yeah, trump may have found a way to get media attention off the book, for now, but still can’t prevent the sales of it. Also, he is probably hoping his comments will change the minds of people from Hsiti, Africa and Rl Salvador from coming here, but then again I doubt it will.
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Reply #338 posted 01/13/18 4:46pm

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Graycap23 said:





We almost had this motherfucker beat back to the swamps of LA before Trump handed him a new lease. Disgusting.


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Reply #339 posted 01/13/18 4:50pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:



2elijah said:


SuperFurryAnimal said:



People may have a negative view on Trump but I wonder if America will get better under him? Or if we will solve the problems we got? Racial issues? They were real bad under Obama. When they touted economic policies that jobs would leave the country and even things out I think Obama/Clintons lost middle America.



Stop lying, racial issues were always bad in America. Obama had nothing to do with it. Many racists feared Obama would bring people together, and the racists were/are usually the liars claiming Obama was dividing the country, when in fact he was bringing it together. Get used to the fact that the Brown and Black population, is part of the human race, and will be around for a lonngggg time. You and trump will just have to get used to it. comfort [Edited 1/13/18 13:00pm]


He tried to tax people to death and take away constitutional rights. Globalist. I have to see what Trump does to my economy, jobs, constitutional rights, etc.


When trump leaves office, you and trump’s delusional supporters, will be crying like banshees, because trump will never get the America he is trying to divide.


I will be celebrating and jumping for joy, when trump is no longer president.
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Reply #340 posted 01/13/18 5:09pm

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Es increíble que este hombre gobierne la nación más poderosa del planeta, qué tienen uds. en la cabeza, como para haberlo elegido.

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Reply #341 posted 01/13/18 5:10pm

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2elijah said:

NorthC said:

Poor Michael Wolff. No one is talking about him & his book anymore. sad

Lol, he’s made a big sum of money, and many back orders at book stores. But yeah, trump may have found a way to get media attention off the book, for now, but still can’t prevent the sales of it. Also, he is probably hoping his comments will change the minds of people from Hsiti, Africa and Rl Salvador from coming here, but then again I doubt it will.


This episode pretty much confirms what is in Wolff's book- namely that Trump is an unhinged lunatic unsuited to the Presidency
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Reply #342 posted 01/13/18 5:52pm

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2elijah said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

He tried to tax people to death and take away constitutional rights. Globalist. I have to see what Trump does to my economy, jobs, constitutional rights, etc.

When trump leaves office, you and trump’s delusional supporters, will be crying like banshees, because trump will never get the America he is trying to divide. I will be celebrating and jumping for joy, when trump is no longer president. [Edited 1/13/18 16:53pm]

I like the bottom line, I care about DOW, lower taxes and jobs numbers (all things that can help the minority) and not innuendos that CNN sells me about what Trump said and meant and collusion that they were selling us before Trump was even elected.

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Reply #343 posted 01/13/18 5:57pm

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djThunderfunk said:

214 said:

It's crystal clear that Thunder is not defending Trump, in fact he is right shithole is not a racist term by any means, but boy if it's offensive, quite offensive but not racist.


It's absolutely an offensive thing for a president (or any public official) to say.

It's completely unexcusable. The fool has no concept of diplomacy.



[Edited 1/13/18 15:34pm]

This is TRUE but really Trump said something in private and two people that hate him made it public. I personally think he got into an argument with Graham someone who wanted to be President and never will. Others that where there have simply not really commented because they know the culture press will attack them. What Trump does if DOW goes up, lower taxes and create jobs will matter most. Come tax time we will see if people approve.

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Reply #344 posted 01/13/18 6:17pm

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djThunderfunk said:


It's absolutely an offensive thing for a president (or any public official) to say.

It's completely unexcusable. The fool has no concept of diplomacy.



[Edited 1/13/18 15:34pm]

This is TRUE but really Trump said something in private and two people that hate him made it public. I personally think he got into an argument with Graham someone who wanted to be President and never will. Others that where there have simply not really commented because they know the culture press will attack them. What Trump does if DOW goes up, lower taxes and create jobs will matter most. Come tax time we will see if people approve.

It's cool that you were in that meeting.

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Reply #345 posted 01/13/18 6:23pm

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13cjk13 said:



SuperFurryAnimal said:




djThunderfunk said:




It's absolutely an offensive thing for a president (or any public official) to say.


It's completely unexcusable. The fool has no concept of diplomacy.




[Edited 1/13/18 15:34pm]




This is TRUE but really Trump said something in private and two people that hate him made it public. I personally think he got into an argument with Graham someone who wanted to be President and never will. Others that where there have simply not really commented because they know the culture press will attack them. What Trump does if DOW goes up, lower taxes and create jobs will matter most. Come tax time we will see if people approve.



It's cool that you were in that meeting.



Graham was presenting and Trump started to attack him and they got into a sissy fit. That is clear from reports out there.
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Reply #346 posted 01/13/18 9:21pm

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214 said:

Es increíble que este hombre gobierne la nación más poderosa del planeta, qué tienen uds. en la cabeza, como para haberlo elegido.



Translation:

It is incredible that this man will rule the most powerful nation on the planet, what have you in the head, for choosing it.

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Reply #347 posted 01/14/18 5:53am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:



2elijah said:


SuperFurryAnimal said:



He tried to tax people to death and take away constitutional rights. Globalist. I have to see what Trump does to my economy, jobs, constitutional rights, etc.



When trump leaves office, you and trump’s delusional supporters, will be crying like banshees, because trump will never get the America he is trying to divide. I will be celebrating and jumping for joy, when trump is no longer president. [Edited 1/13/18 16:53pm]


I like the bottom line, I care about DOW, lower taxes and jobs numbers (all things that can help the minority) and not innuendos that CNN sells me about what Trump said and meant and collusion that they were selling us before Trump was even elected.


You work overtime trying to convince yourself that you weren’t one of the foolish ones, who was delusional enough to be tricked into voting for an insecure, mentally-unstable, racist manchild, who supports twisted, white supremacist false and ignorant beliefs. So you continue to make excuses for his disrespect/sexual harassment/accusations towards women, and his racist attitude and disrespect towards non-Whites.

Trump supporters should question their conscience, as to why they support a manchild, like trump who they are fully aware, supports and promotes false, racist ideology, through his racist, stereotyped comments and insults. How can you allow yourselves to be so easily tricked and manipulated by trump? How can you or any of his supporters embrace a president, who spouts racist insults, disrespect, and lies about other humans, which he has deep insecurities, jealousy and racist feelings towards their existence, progress and success? How can some of you sit in church and pray, but call yourselves Christians, etc., and support someone like trump, and are fully aware of his history of racial hatred and division? What kind of human being are you?
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Reply #348 posted 01/14/18 6:54am

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2elijah said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

I like the bottom line, I care about DOW, lower taxes and jobs numbers (all things that can help the minority) and not innuendos that CNN sells me about what Trump said and meant and collusion that they were selling us before Trump was even elected.

You work overtime trying to convince yourself that you weren’t one of the foolish ones, who was delusional enough to be tricked into voting for an insecure, mentally-unstable, racist manchild, who supports twisted, white supremacist false and ignorant beliefs. So you continue to make excuses for his disrespect/sexual harassment/accusations towards women, and his racist attitude and disrespect towards non-Whites. Trump supporters should question their conscience, as to why they support a manchild, like trump who they are fully aware, supports and promotes false, racist ideology, through his racist, stereotyped comments and insults. How can you allow yourselves to be so easily tricked and manipulated by trump? How can you or any of his supporters embrace a president, who spouts racist insults, disrespect, and lies about other humans, which he has deep insecurities, jealousy and racist feelings towards their existence, progress and success? How can some of you sit in church and pray, but call yourselves Christians, etc., and support someone like trump, and are fully aware of his history of racial hatred and division? What kind of human being are you? [Edited 1/14/18 6:00am]

Trump is a nationalist and not a racist. You are blurring the two. He wants a system that only brings the best of the best by a merit based system. Think doctors, scientists, developers. He only wants to strengthen the USA and is running the country like a business instead of opening up the borders for anyone. What other country has open borders and allows anyone to come in? Then other countries dictate to us that we should take in all the refugees. Let the Europeans (France and UK) do that.

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Reply #349 posted 01/14/18 8:41am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:



2elijah said:


SuperFurryAnimal said:



I like the bottom line, I care about DOW, lower taxes and jobs numbers (all things that can help the minority) and not innuendos that CNN sells me about what Trump said and meant and collusion that they were selling us before Trump was even elected.



You work overtime trying to convince yourself that you weren’t one of the foolish ones, who was delusional enough to be tricked into voting for an insecure, mentally-unstable, racist manchild, who supports twisted, white supremacist false and ignorant beliefs. So you continue to make excuses for his disrespect/sexual harassment/accusations towards women, and his racist attitude and disrespect towards non-Whites. Trump supporters should question their conscience, as to why they support a manchild, like trump who they are fully aware, supports and promotes false, racist ideology, through his racist, stereotyped comments and insults. How can you allow yourselves to be so easily tricked and manipulated by trump? How can you or any of his supporters embrace a president, who spouts racist insults, disrespect, and lies about other humans, which he has deep insecurities, jealousy and racist feelings towards their existence, progress and success? How can some of you sit in church and pray, but call yourselves Christians, etc., and support someone like trump, and are fully aware of his history of racial hatred and division? What kind of human being are you? [Edited 1/14/18 6:00am]


Trump is a nationalist and not a racist. You are blurring the two. He wants a system that only brings the best of the best by a merit based system. Think doctors, scientists, developers. He only wants to strengthen the USA and is running the country like a business instead of opening up the borders for anyone. What other country has open borders and allows anyone to come in? Then other countries dictate to us that we should take in all the refugees. Let the Europeans (France and UK) do that.


Why didn’t you answer the question? Why are you supporting a manchild who promotes racist and stereotyped, ignorant information to the American public? Is it because you are also insecure, jealous and fear the economic progress of Brown and Black immigrants and Americans in this country?

You’re just making excuses for trump and normalizing his racist behavior and comments. He’s a white nationalist racist. Furthermore, he lies to Americans that other countries leaders, are not sending the best. when it is the individual, not the leader of other countries, who fills out the required documents that’s needed to enter this country,

There are hundreds, if not thousands of Engineers, Physicians, Educators, etc., that come from the countries he insulted, and called ‘shitholes’, because trump
fears too many Brown and Black immigrants will come to America, and succeed economically. He is insecure about their progress and success, just like many of trump’s racist supporters are.
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Reply #350 posted 01/14/18 9:27am

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2elijah said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Trump is a nationalist and not a racist. You are blurring the two. He wants a system that only brings the best of the best by a merit based system. Think doctors, scientists, developers. He only wants to strengthen the USA and is running the country like a business instead of opening up the borders for anyone. What other country has open borders and allows anyone to come in? Then other countries dictate to us that we should take in all the refugees. Let the Europeans (France and UK) do that.

Why didn’t you answer the question? Why are you supporting a manchild who promotes racist and stereotyped, ignorant information to the American public? Is it because you are also insecure, jealous and fear the economic progress of Brown and Black immigrants and Americans in this country? You’re just making excuses for trump and normalizing his racist behavior and comments. He’s a white nationalist racist. Furthermore, he lies to Americans that other countries leaders, are not sending the best. when it is the individual, not the leader of other countries, who fills out the required documents that’s needed to enter this country, There are hundreds, if not thousands of Engineers, Physicians, Educators, etc., that come from the countries he insulted, and called ‘shitholes’, because trump fears too many Brown and Black immigrants will come to America, and succeed economically. He is insecure about their progress and success, just like many of trump’s racist supporters are. [Edited 1/14/18 8:43am]

The very reason for majority of immigration is to save people from bad circumstances and that is often Dems MO to take in more people. Not to weed out the best of the best from those countries. Do you believe that is the answer to solving the problem globally?? You could almost make a counter argument that we have weakened those countries by stealing talent if what you are claiming is the truth. I believe people should be able to make a good living in home country too and we should not have to be saving people from slavery.

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Reply #351 posted 01/14/18 9:43am

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Modern slavery 2e! sex slavery, corporate slavery and evil things like Islamic terrorist selling people to harvest organs in Africa. Having to move people from one spot of the world to another over ISIS occupancy! Enough is enough I'm so sick of our past leadership allowing these things to flourish. I'm sick of LEADERS that looked the other way as other countries that said they would blow up our alliances, allowing North Korea to get the means to nukes then saying they kept the peace.

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Reply #352 posted 01/14/18 10:18am

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Shithole Was Projected Onto Trump’s D.C. Hotel Last Night


01/14


The expletive President Trump used last week in a discussion about immigration in the Oval Office and other slogans were projected Saturday night onto an outer wall of the Trump International Hotel in downtown Washington.


Video footage posted on Twitter shows the word “SHITHOLE” and poop emoji projected on the wall of the hotel. An arrow, also apparently projected on the building, points to the arched doorway.

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Reply #353 posted 01/14/18 10:36am

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The organ harvest in rumoured in south America too.

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Reply #354 posted 01/14/18 10:51am

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What about poor people in America? Should we deport them and bring in more rich people from other countries??

I remember doing roofing with Haitians. They actually laughed at us, thinking we were lazy. Those mothers will work like dogs.

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Reply #355 posted 01/14/18 10:58am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

2elijah said:

SuperFurryAnimal said: You work overtime trying to convince yourself that you weren’t one of the foolish ones, who was delusional enough to be tricked into voting for an insecure, mentally-unstable, racist manchild, who supports twisted, white supremacist false and ignorant beliefs. So you continue to make excuses for his disrespect/sexual harassment/accusations towards women, and his racist attitude and disrespect towards non-Whites. Trump supporters should question their conscience, as to why they support a manchild, like trump who they are fully aware, supports and promotes false, racist ideology, through his racist, stereotyped comments and insults. How can you allow yourselves to be so easily tricked and manipulated by trump? How can you or any of his supporters embrace a president, who spouts racist insults, disrespect, and lies about other humans, which he has deep insecurities, jealousy and racist feelings towards their existence, progress and success? How can some of you sit in church and pray, but call yourselves Christians, etc., and support someone like trump, and are fully aware of his history of racial hatred and division? What kind of human being are you? [Edited 1/14/18 6:00am]

Trump is a nationalist and not a racist. You are blurring the two. He wants a system that only brings the best of the best by a merit based system. Think doctors, scientists, developers. He only wants to strengthen the USA and is running the country like a business instead of opening up the borders for anyone. What other country has open borders and allows anyone to come in? Then other countries dictate to us that we should take in all the refugees. Let the Europeans (France and UK) do that.

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Reply #356 posted 01/14/18 11:12am

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^^^I think we are a couple of Presidential cock-ups away from his apologists claiming that the only racists are non-white people for choosing to be a different colour...
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Reply #357 posted 01/14/18 11:48am

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^^^I think we are a couple of Presidential cock-ups away from his apologists claiming that the only racists are non-white people for choosing to be a different colour... [Edited 1/14/18 11:12am]

99% there already.

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Reply #358 posted 01/14/18 12:02pm

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Shithole Was Projected Onto Trump’s D.C. Hotel Last Night


01/14


The expletive President Trump used last week in a discussion about immigration in the Oval Office and other slogans were projected Saturday night onto an outer wall of the Trump International Hotel in downtown Washington.


Video footage posted on Twitter shows the word “SHITHOLE” and poop emoji projected on the wall of the hotel. An arrow, also apparently projected on the building, points to the arched doorway.

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SuperFurryAnimal said:




2elijah said:


SuperFurryAnimal said: You work overtime trying to convince yourself that you weren’t one of the foolish ones, who was delusional enough to be tricked into voting for an insecure, mentally-unstable, racist manchild, who supports twisted, white supremacist false and ignorant beliefs. So you continue to make excuses for his disrespect/sexual harassment/accusations towards women, and his racist attitude and disrespect towards non-Whites. Trump supporters should question their conscience, as to why they support a manchild, like trump who they are fully aware, supports and promotes false, racist ideology, through his racist, stereotyped comments and insults. How can you allow yourselves to be so easily tricked and manipulated by trump? How can you or any of his supporters embrace a president, who spouts racist insults, disrespect, and lies about other humans, which he has deep insecurities, jealousy and racist feelings towards their existence, progress and success? How can some of you sit in church and pray, but call yourselves Christians, etc., and support someone like trump, and are fully aware of his history of racial hatred and division? What kind of human being are you? [Edited 1/14/18 6:00am]


Trump is a nationalist and not a racist. You are blurring the two. He wants a system that only brings the best of the best by a merit based system. Think doctors, scientists, developers. He only wants to strengthen the USA and is running the country like a business instead of opening up the borders for anyone. What other country has open borders and allows anyone to come in? Then other countries dictate to us that we should take in all the refugees. Let the Europeans (France and UK) do that.



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[Edited 1/14/18 11:04am]



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