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Reply #60 posted 06/19/18 8:48am

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luv4u said:

This is not America? Oh, yes, it is: Neil Macdonald

Trump has sensed that his voters want ruthlessness, and he's delivering

https://www.cbc.ca/news/o...-1.4711365

Along the southern border, families with the will and the heart to flee misery and seek asylum are being torn apart — the parents charged and prosecuted and deported, rather than welcomed through open doors. Their children, alone and terrified, sit numbly in tent cities erected by ICE, Donald Trump's freshly empowered immigration enforcers, who keep visiting do-gooders away, even papering over windows to hide what's going on within......

His base doesn't care because these are Hispanics, and they don't want them in America

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Reply #61 posted 06/19/18 9:18am

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poppys said:



We are punishing people trying to keep their children from being drafted at gunpoint into drug cartels. Do more to stop that, not punish the victims of that horror.

Last night NBC report - we now have 12,000 unaccompanied minors in custody in the US. The detention centers the older ones are in are like prisons and are privately run for profit facilities. They wake them up at midnight for headcounts.

The little ones they are taking now are not allowed to be touched or picked up, consoled or comforted by their 'caregivers'. A pediatrician, Dr. Colleen Kraft, that has been in there told Lester Holt that child abuse is not too strong a word. Government sanctioned child abuse.





sad did you see the floor mats and mylar blankets these children have to sleep? They have no toys nothing to play with, no windows in those holding cells and have no idea when they wil be reunited with their parents. disbelief

Sessions has the audacity to say the separation policy is a deterrent. He has a track record of RACISM and evokes bible passages to support his twisted view. They are trying to persuade their base that all these people are criminals because they are fleeing horrific conditions in their countries of origin.


I told you all a long time ago that the whole immigration issue was about the fear of the browning of America. What they are doing to those children by taking their parents or adults they came with away, is wrong. Those kids are traumatized. They see themselves in a cage-like circumstances and their parents forced from them.
This is a disaster. Holding the children hostage so he could build a wall in order to keep out the Brown and Black immigrants out is disgusting. Trump seems to be playing up to the ‘hateful’ white nationalists/racist portion of his base. I’m sure they are happy to see this happening. It’s trump’s administration separating these children. He’s blaming everyone but himself.
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Reply #62 posted 06/19/18 9:20am

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Now THIS is a true CUNT...fucking bleached blonde overpriviliged spinster nasty bitch

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Laura Ingraham Compares Child Immigrant Detention Centers To Summer Camps

The Fox News host also quoted an article that likens the centers, some of which keep children in cage-like structures, to boarding school.

Fox News host Laura Ingraham criticized the backlash against the Trump administration for separating immigrant families at the border as part of its “zero tolerance” policy, comparing the detention centers, where children can be seen being kept inside chain-link cages and heard wailing for their parents, to summer camp.

“More kids are being separated from their parents and temporarily housed in what are essentially summer camps, or as The San Diego Union Tribune described them today, as basically looking like boarding schools,” Ingraham said Monday. “The American people are footing a really big bill for what is tantamount to a slow-rolling invasion of the United States.”

The newspaper reported that the Casa San Diego facility for immigrant children has “classrooms, a play area with soccer goals and a medical clinic with superheroes like Wonder Woman, Superman and the Hulk on the walls.”

Ingraham failed to mention the added context that the Tribune article included, which said that upon closer inspection, the facility contains aspects that resemble a prison.

“It’s surrounded by fencing that is backed by privacy netting, and a sign at the gate warns visitors that it’s under video surveillance 24 hours per day. If someone opens the front door of the facility without first swiping a badge, an alarm blares through the hallway, warning of a potential escape.”

Ingraham attempted to clarify her comments at the end of her Monday show, noting that she has spent time in Central America given that she adopted one of her children from Guatemala.

“Apparently there are a lot of people very upset because we referred to some of the detention facilities tonight as essentially like summer camps,” she said. “The San Diego Union Tribune today described the facilities as essentially like what you would expect at a boarding school. So I will stick to there are some of them like boarding schools. And I suggest that a lot of the folks who are worried about that spend more time in Central America. I have.”

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Reply #63 posted 06/19/18 9:23am

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DiminutiveRocker said:



sad did you see the floor mats and mylar blankets these children have to sleep? They have no toys nothing to play with, no windows in those holding cells and have no idea when they wil be reunited with their parents. disbelief

Sessions has the audacity to say the separation policy is a deterrent. He has a track record of RACISM and evokes bible passages to support his twisted view. They are trying to persuade their base that all these people are criminals because they are fleeing horrific conditions in their countries of origin.

I told you all a long time ago that the whole immigration issue was about the fear of the browning of America. What they are doing to those children by taking their parents or adults they came with away, is wrong. Those kids are traumatized. They see themselves in a cage-like circumstances and their parents forced from them. This is a disaster. Holding the children hostage so he could build a wall in order to keep out the Brown and Black immigrants out is disgusting. Trump seems to be playing up to the ‘hateful’ white nationalists/racist portion of his base. I’m sure they are happy to see this happening. [Edited 6/19/18 9:20am]

Trump and his base LOVE THIS...most of them hate Hispanics, and see them as less than human.

Of course, if this were Canadians, or Germans, or Trump's preferred Norwegians being treated like Animals in this matter, they would be upset....But Latinos, ehhh...

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Reply #64 posted 06/19/18 9:27am

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jjhunsecker said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:




sad did you see the floor mats and mylar blankets these children have to sleep? They have no toys nothing to play with, no windows in those holding cells and have no idea when they wil be reunited with their parents. disbelief

Sessions has the audacity to say the separation policy is a deterrent. He has a track record of RACISM and evokes bible passages to support his twisted view. They are trying to persuade their base that all these people are criminals because they are fleeing horrific conditions in their countries of origin.



I told you all a long time ago that the whole immigration issue was about the fear of the browning of America. What they are doing to those children by taking their parents or adults they came with away, is wrong. Those kids are traumatized. They see themselves in a cage-like circumstances and their parents forced from them. This is a disaster. Holding the children hostage so he could build a wall in order to keep out the Brown and Black immigrants out is disgusting. Trump seems to be playing up to the ‘hateful’ white nationalists/racist portion of his base. I’m sure they are happy to see this happening. [Edited 6/19/18 9:20am]


Trump and his base LOVE THIS...most of them hate Hispanics, and see them as less than human.


Of course, if this were Canadians, or Germans, or Trump's preferred Norwegians being treated like Animals in this matter, they would be upset....But Latinos, ehhh...


It’s not his base that is the issue. It is the rest of the republican voters. I refuse to believe that most republicans are fine with this. They need to make it clear that they are not, install fear in Republicans running for re election in November. It is the only way this will stop.
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Reply #65 posted 06/19/18 9:30am

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I understand that something has to be done about illegal immigration, but this is just disgusting and anyone condoning these actions should be ashamed.

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Reply #66 posted 06/19/18 9:32am

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jjhunsecker said:

Trump and his base LOVE THIS...most of them hate Hispanics, and see them as less than human.

Of course, if this were Canadians, or Germans, or Trump's preferred Norwegians being treated like Animals in this matter, they would be upset....But Latinos, ehhh...

It’s not his base that is the issue. It is the rest of the republican voters. I refuse to believe that most republicans are fine with this. They need to make it clear that they are not, install fear in Republicans running for re election in November. It is the only way this will stop.

Then where are they ? I hear a FEW...but most are silent right now . And some parrot Trump's idiotic talking point that the DEMOCRATS are to blame for this.

Trump has turned many, if not most, Republican legislators and voters, into mindless and spineless zombies, who just follow him ....like lemmings into the sea

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Reply #67 posted 06/19/18 9:41am

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jjhunsecker said:

Silvertongue7 said:

It’s not his base that is the issue. It is the rest of the republican voters. I refuse to believe that most republicans are fine with this. They need to make it clear that they are not, install fear in Republicans running for re election in November. It is the only way this will stop.

Then where are they ? I hear a FEW...but most are silent right now . And some parrot Trump's idiotic talking point that the DEMOCRATS are to blame for this.

Trump has turned many, if not most, Republican legislators and voters, into mindless and spineless zombies, who just follow him ....like lemmings into the sea


That is the absolute nightmare. We cannot refuse to believe rank & file Republicans don't condone this. Not to mention Congress and the Courts (including Supreme). They are supposed to be the checks & balances. We are in a supported dictatorship - right here, right now.

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Reply #68 posted 06/19/18 9:48am

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Silvertongue7 said:

jjhunsecker said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:




sad did you see the floor mats and mylar blankets these children have to sleep? They have no toys nothing to play with, no windows in those holding cells and have no idea when they wil be reunited with their parents. disbelief

Sessions has the audacity to say the separation policy is a deterrent. He has a track record of RACISM and evokes bible passages to support his twisted view. They are trying to persuade their base that all these people are criminals because they are fleeing horrific conditions in their countries of origin.



I told you all a long time ago that the whole immigration issue was about the fear of the browning of America. What they are doing to those children by taking their parents or adults they came with away, is wrong. Those kids are traumatized. They see themselves in a cage-like circumstances and their parents forced from them. This is a disaster. Holding the children hostage so he could build a wall in order to keep out the Brown and Black immigrants out is disgusting. Trump seems to be playing up to the ‘hateful’ white nationalists/racist portion of his base. I’m sure they are happy to see this happening. [Edited 6/19/18 9:20am]


Trump and his base LOVE THIS...most of them hate Hispanics, and see them as less than human.


Of course, if this were Canadians, or Germans, or Trump's preferred Norwegians being treated like Animals in this matter, they would be upset....But Latinos, ehhh...


It’s not his base that is the issue. It is the rest of the republican voters. I refuse to believe that most republicans are fine with this. They need to make it clear that they are not, install fear in Republicans running for re election in November. It is the only way this will stop.

It’s trump. He could stop this if he wanted to. He’s still playing to that portion of his base, regarding the immigration issue and building a wall, to make sure he has their support and they support republicans in the next election. He’s basically holding children as hostages by separating them from their families.
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Reply #69 posted 06/19/18 9:54am

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2elijah, you are of course right, he could stop it, but he’s not going to and we know the reasons why. And JJ, you are also right, and that’s the point I was trying to make: I believe that a significant number of republicans don’t approve of this. So where are they? They are the ones who can make it stop. Where are they, what are they waiting for to say ‘you don’t get to do this in my name’. Where, indeed, are they?
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Reply #70 posted 06/19/18 9:58am

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jjhunsecker said:

Now THIS is a true CUNT...fucking bleached blonde overpriviliged spinster nasty bitch

https://www.huffingtonpos...b9e9a4840c

Laura Ingraham Compares Child Immigrant Detention Centers To Summer Camps

The Fox News host also quoted an article that likens the centers, some of which keep children in cage-like structures, to boarding school.

Fox News host Laura Ingraham criticized the backlash against the Trump administration for separating immigrant families at the border as part of its “zero tolerance” policy, comparing the detention centers, where children can be seen being kept inside chain-link cages and heard wailing for their parents, to summer camp.

“More kids are being separated from their parents and temporarily housed in what are essentially summer camps, or as The San Diego Union Tribune described them today, as basically looking like boarding schools,” Ingraham said Monday. “The American people are footing a really big bill for what is tantamount to a slow-rolling invasion of the United States.”

The newspaper reported that the Casa San Diego facility for immigrant children has “classrooms, a play area with soccer goals and a medical clinic with superheroes like Wonder Woman, Superman and the Hulk on the walls.”

Ingraham failed to mention the added context that the Tribune article included, which said that upon closer inspection, the facility contains aspects that resemble a prison.

“It’s surrounded by fencing that is backed by privacy netting, and a sign at the gate warns visitors that it’s under video surveillance 24 hours per day. If someone opens the front door of the facility without first swiping a badge, an alarm blares through the hallway, warning of a potential escape.”

Ingraham attempted to clarify her comments at the end of her Monday show, noting that she has spent time in Central America given that she adopted one of her children from Guatemala.

“Apparently there are a lot of people very upset because we referred to some of the detention facilities tonight as essentially like summer camps,” she said. “The San Diego Union Tribune today described the facilities as essentially like what you would expect at a boarding school. So I will stick to there are some of them like boarding schools. And I suggest that a lot of the folks who are worried about that spend more time in Central America. I have.”

One wonders if she'd be happy to send her own children there for a stay....

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Reply #71 posted 06/19/18 11:10am

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Silvertongue7 said:

2elijah, you are of course right, he could stop it, but he’s not going to and we know the reasons why. And JJ, you are also right, and that’s the point I was trying to make: I believe that a significant number of republicans don’t approve of this. So where are they? They are the ones who can make it stop. Where are they, what are they waiting for to say ‘you don’t get to do this in my name’. Where, indeed, are they?


They are in the midst of their mid-term or planning next term election campaigns and are worried they will lose Trump supporters because if they do then a Democrat will take their place omfg

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Reply #72 posted 06/19/18 11:33am

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Anyone who supports this has no heart.

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Reply #73 posted 06/19/18 11:36am

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We are punishing people trying to keep their children from being drafted at gunpoint into drug cartels. Do more to stop that, not punish the victims of that horror.

Last night NBC report - we now have 12,000 unaccompanied minors in custody in the US. The detention centers the older ones are in are like prisons and are privately run for profit facilities. They wake them up at midnight for headcounts.

The little ones they are taking now are not allowed to be touched or picked up, consoled or comforted by their 'caregivers'. A pediatrician, Dr. Colleen Kraft, that has been in there told Lester Holt that child abuse is not too strong a word. Government sanctioned child abuse.

Yup (to bold). The following is from 2014 paper on child migration. Still applies today:


While economic opportunity has long motivated migration north, a 2013 UN refugee agency survey found that more migrants leave due to threats of violence than lack of economic opportunities.


Some children will win asylum status, and others may remain hidden from authorities. "Any of these is preferable to the threat of violence and death at home."—CFR's Edward Alden

It never ceases to amaze me how cruel humans can be against fellow humans and animals, especially when in the pursuit of money and power.
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Reply #74 posted 06/19/18 11:40am

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Silvertongue7 said:

2elijah, you are of course right, he could stop it, but he’s not going to and we know the reasons why. And JJ, you are also right, and that’s the point I was trying to make: I believe that a significant number of republicans don’t approve of this. So where are they? They are the ones who can make it stop. Where are they, what are they waiting for to say ‘you don’t get to do this in my name’. Where, indeed, are they?

I agree with the bolded part to a point. I think Trump has become so fixated in blaming Obama for this that he'll put in some measure to make it seem like he has made things better and try and take the glory for 'fixing' it all.

It never ceases to amaze me how cruel humans can be against fellow humans and animals, especially when in the pursuit of money and power.
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Reply #75 posted 06/19/18 11:50am

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FIRST: these are not asylum seekers. why is this lie being told over and over?


But I agree it is not being handled well. I assume, like it was when it happened a few years ago, that there is some reason they can not just send them back.


Also, ANY of them from south of Mexico...if they were truly seeking asylum they would have done so in Mexico.


But yes this is bad... I think families should be kept together--to SOME extent. But they also need to be sent home...

I genuinely hope that we never find ourselves in the situation where leaving everything we know and attempting to enter a country that doesn't want us, in order just to try and get by in life. To then spend our lifes being untrusting as, if the truth is found out, we might be sent 'back' to whatever horrors we came from. Or to have to wave goodbye to our children in the hope that, at some point, someone will take care of them better than we are able to at home (through factors beyond our control), not ever knowing if, or when, we'll see them again. Please imagine that.

People trying to enter a country illegally do not do so because they want a picnic, most are willing to work hard in return for a little compassion. Sadly people don't want to listen to their stories, don't want to think of them as equals, even as human - they shouldn't have broken the law, so fuck 'em - just send them home.

It never ceases to amaze me how cruel humans can be against fellow humans and animals, especially when in the pursuit of money and power.
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Reply #76 posted 06/19/18 12:12pm

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maplenpg said:

Silvertongue7 said:

2elijah, you are of course right, he could stop it, but he’s not going to and we know the reasons why. And JJ, you are also right, and that’s the point I was trying to make: I believe that a significant number of republicans don’t approve of this. So where are they? They are the ones who can make it stop. Where are they, what are they waiting for to say ‘you don’t get to do this in my name’. Where, indeed, are they?

I agree with the bolded part to a point. I think Trump has become so fixated in blaming Obama for this that he'll put in some measure to make it seem like he has made things better and try and take the glory for 'fixing' it all.


Yep - that is his MO for evrything he does, isn't it? His answer to everything is "the Democrats" (even if it is a bold face lie) and further dividing this country because that is the plan - divide and conquer.

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Reply #77 posted 06/19/18 12:38pm

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Anyone who supports this has no heart.

Sadly, in America, that describes a lot of people....especially when it comes to those who are "different"

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Reply #78 posted 06/19/18 12:56pm

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2elijah, you are of course right, he could stop it, but he’s not going to and we know the reasons why. And JJ, you are also right, and that’s the point I was trying to make: I believe that a significant number of republicans don’t approve of this. So where are they? They are the ones who can make it stop. Where are they, what are they waiting for to say ‘you don’t get to do this in my name’. Where, indeed, are they?

Agree, and like JJ said they are in the middle of mid-term elections. Many of them don’t have the guts to stand up to trump. And you’re right. Trump has no plans to stop the separation.
It’s sad that many Guatemalans are caught up between the gangs there, and have no choice but to flee. The U.S. and other countries know this is happening, so why not instead try to work with the government there, to stop the ms-13? It seems it will take some kind of military action to stop the violence against citizens there. I don’t have the answers as to what can be done, but it’s almost like they are fleeing s war-torn country, with gangs terrorizing the citizens. Many of the migrants are just trying to save their lives and their children.
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Reply #79 posted 06/19/18 1:04pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:


FIRST: these are not asylum seekers. why is this lie being told over and over?


But I agree it is not being handled well. I assume, like it was when it happened a few years ago, that there is some reason they can not just send them back.


Also, ANY of them from south of Mexico...if they were truly seeking asylum they would have done so in Mexico.


But yes this is bad... I think families should be kept together--to SOME extent. But they also need to be sent home...



I genuinely hope that we never find ourselves in the situation where leaving everything we know and attempting to enter a country that doesn't want us, in order just to try and get by in life. To then spend our lifes being untrusting as, if the truth is found out, we might be sent 'back' to whatever horrors we came from. Or to have to wave goodbye to our children in the hope that, at some point, someone will take care of them better than we are able to at home (through factors beyond our control), not ever knowing if, or when, we'll see them again. Please imagine that.

People trying to enter a country illegally do not do so because they want a picnic, most are willing to work hard in return for a little compassion. Sadly people don't want to listen to their stories, don't want to think of them as equals, even as human - they shouldn't have broken the law, so fuck 'em - just send them home.


I believe that could happen to the U.S. someday. It’s not impossible. That seems to be the only way many in this country will understand what it is like to flee from violence with little to nothing, and with kids.
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Reply #80 posted 06/19/18 1:42pm

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I am the one who sited the mid-terms, 2E lol but it is true - they need the Trump supporters to win so they stand silent while this vile policy is doubled down on. Laura Bush had courage to speak up at least - but she has nothing to lose in doing so. The GOP has become a pack of cowardly jerks - o hope something can be done to stop this sooner than later 😐




2elijah said:

maplenpg said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:


FIRST: these are not asylum seekers. why is this lie being told over and over?


But I agree it is not being handled well. I assume, like it was when it happened a few years ago, that there is some reason they can not just send them back.


Also, ANY of them from south of Mexico...if they were truly seeking asylum they would have done so in Mexico.


But yes this is bad... I think families should be kept together--to SOME extent. But they also need to be sent home...



I genuinely hope that we never find ourselves in the situation where leaving everything we know and attempting to enter a country that doesn't want us, in order just to try and get by in life. To then spend our lifes being untrusting as, if the truth is found out, we might be sent 'back' to whatever horrors we came from. Or to have to wave goodbye to our children in the hope that, at some point, someone will take care of them better than we are able to at home (through factors beyond our control), not ever knowing if, or when, we'll see them again. Please imagine that.

People trying to enter a country illegally do not do so because they want a picnic, most are willing to work hard in return for a little compassion. Sadly people don't want to listen to their stories, don't want to think of them as equals, even as human - they shouldn't have broken the law, so fuck 'em - just send them home.


I believe that could happen to the U.S. someday. It’s not impossible. That seems to be the only way many in this country will understand what it is like to flee from violence with little to nothing, and with kids.
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Reply #81 posted 06/19/18 2:00pm

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Another horrible bitch ! What is wrong with these women ? Is it just me , or does the ugliness of their souls reflect on their faces ?

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jjhunsecker said:

Another horrible bitch ! What is wrong with these women ? Is it just me , or does the ugliness of their souls reflect on their faces ?







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It’s not you, JJ!
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The Fox News Propaganda Machine Is in High Gear Over Family Separation

Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson and Jeff Sessions are misleading millions of Americans in dangerous ways

President Trump has instituted a number of morally dubious policies since taking office, but nothing has sparked so much outrage as the one issued last month that has caused over 2,000 migrant children – or, as Trump puts it, "only 2,000" – to be ripped away from their parents at the border. The images, audio and reporting detailing the separations and the conditions in which these kids are being forced to live have evoked a visceral response from the two-thirds of Americans w...the policy, and it would appear the administration has finally come upon something that not even the White House's seasoned collection of liars can defend.


With the administration doubling down, you better believe Fox News was going to follow suit during its primetime slate of state-sponsored programming. Children being kept in cages? It was a layup for Laura Ingraham, who likened the prison-like facilities in which newly unaccompanied children are living to "summer camps."

But kids attending summer camp know they'll be reunited with their parents, and don't have to beg to speak to them by phone. They also aren't kept in cages – especially not ones conta...er campers– where they're given nothing to play with other than a photocopy of their sudd...'s ID card.

Joining Ingraham was Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the man responsible for instituting the "zero tolerance" policy that yielded the current situation. Though Trump and DHS Secretary Nielsen have repeatedly denied the administration is responsible for the policy, Sessions has said the opposite. When asked whether the policy is meant to deter others from attempting to seek asylum in the United States, Sessions admitted it was. "Yes, hopefully people will get the message and come through the border at the port of entry and not [come] across the border unlawfully."

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And now he is using a diversion tactic of putting cross border shoppers on blast.

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Reply #85 posted 06/19/18 5:18pm

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They say they are not taking children from parents using the legal port of entry, but according to an attorney working down there they are. The NPR host had her repeat it to make sure she heard it correctly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us...msnnews11

Hundreds of members at Sessions's church write formal complaint over immigration policy

More than 600 members of the United Methodist Church signed onto a letter Monday condemning Attorney General Jeff Sessions for the Trump administration's policy of separating migrant parents and children at the U.S. border.

In the letter, the group of churchgoers, including clergy and church leadership, accuse Sessions of child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination and dissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards of the doctrine of the United Methodist Church.

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Reply #86 posted 06/19/18 5:21pm

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They say they are not taking children from parents using the legal port of entry, but according to an attorney working down there they are. The NPR host had her repeat it to make sure she heard it correctly.

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Hundreds of members at Sessions's church write formal complaint over immigration policy

More than 600 members of the United Methodist Church signed onto a letter Monday condemning Attorney General Jeff Sessions for the Trump administration's policy of separating migrant parents and children at the U.S. border.

In the letter, the group of churchgoers, including clergy and church leadership, accuse Sessions of child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination and dissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards of the doctrine of the United Methodist Church.

Wow. Well, it is obvioius that his scripture references or whatever he thinks he isevoking are a smoke shield for his racism. The racists of the Trump base are eating it up. disbelief

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Maybe this thread should get a sticky ?

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Reply #88 posted 06/19/18 5:36pm

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Wow. Sessions Bishop is going even further. Says he should repent.

“To disrupt or sever family relationships is incompatible with Scripture and Christian tradition,” said the president of the United Methodist Council of Bishops.

WASHINGTON ― It can’t feel good for Attorney General Jeff Sessions to see faith leaders of all persuasions condemning the Trump administration’s policy of separating children from their parents at the border. But now a leader of his own denomination says the policy is inconsistent with their faith and suggested that it’s time for Sessions to repent.

“To disrupt or sever family relationships is incompatible with Scripture and Christian tradition,” Bishop Kenneth Carter, the president of the United Methodist Church’s Council of Bishops, said in a new statement. “And where the church has been silent in previous generations and cultures, or contributed to the separation of families, we have later understood our complicity and at our best have engaged in acts of repentance.” Sessions is a longtime Methodist. Huffpost

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The fucked up repsonses continue - Corey Lewandowski openly and heartlessly mocks the separation of a 10-year-old child with down syndrome who was taken from his parents at the border. What a complete and utter ASSHOLE:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/corey-lewandowski-mocks-disabled-migrant-girl-who-was-separated-from-parents-womp-womp/I am




Meanwhile Trump is rejoicing about how well this is going. They are rejoicing at the outrage. I am still surprised how is it possible to be more deeply sickened by this administration every day. neutral













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