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Reply #210 posted 06/28/18 11:39am

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The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border June 19, 2018 at 3:00 AM : https://www.google.com/am...he-border/ excerpt: We do not have a policy of separating families at the border. Period.” — Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, on Twitter, June 17 The president and top administration officials say U.S. laws or court rulings are forcing them to separate families that are caught trying to cross the southern border. These claims are false. Immigrant families are being separated primarily because the Trump administration in April began to prosecute as many border-crossing offenses as possible. This “zero-tolerance policy” applies to all adults, regardless of whether they cross alone or with their children. The Justice Department can’t prosecute children along with their parents, so the natural result of the zero-tolerance policy has been a sharp rise in family separations. 🤓 what i do NOT understand about drumpf-trump supporters is the FACT that they hear, read and see through his blatant lies, yet they follow him with a religious fervor. seems america is no longer being represented by the statue of liberty icon under the leadership of the current POTUS. from what I've been reading. some of these detention centers have poorly trained staff personnel. As a result there have been several reports of child abuse.


There is/will be child abuse, including sexual. And airborne and direct contact illnesses. It's already confirmed they are drugging them. For one thing, they rolled this out with no plan so they are probably hiring anyone with a pulse to deal with the onslaught. Don't imagine they are paying much either. They are dumping all the kids in big rooms with people watching them that are not allowed to console or comfort. That's emotional abuse right there.

Also, their parents and guardians are being loudly and relentlessly called out (starting at the top with Trump) - as criminals, vermin, rapists etc. Why would a worker value them any differently?

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Reply #211 posted 06/30/18 9:26pm

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Some of those children put into adoptive homes are ending up not being returned to the parent(s). The parent ends up losing custody.

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Reply #212 posted 06/30/18 10:42pm

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This administration does not give a fuck bout brown people who they consider "animals". They do not fucking care.

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Reply #213 posted 06/30/18 10:45pm

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lazycrockett said:

This administration does not give a fuck bout brown people who they consider "animals". They do not fucking care.

Trump made that clear fr5om the day he announced his run for the Presidency in 2015

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Reply #214 posted 07/01/18 2:42am

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sleeping under the mylar blankets is an insult imo. These types of blankets cause the body to sweat. not good for the children for continuous use.
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Look at the Texas tent facilities housing immigrant children
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Reply #215 posted 07/01/18 8:51am

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Now Melania is in Arizona.


Why? What do they think? That her presence will make the children feel better? She’s the last person they want to see. She’s married to the man who ok’d that the kids to be taken from their parents.
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Reply #216 posted 07/01/18 8:53am

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2elijah said:


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eek oh, shit.



Let’s hope they didn’t put anything in the food those girls and boys were eating. Trump’s administration is known for lying to the American people, and they have no regard nor do they give a damn about how they are affecting, the mental state of those children, because they come from Brown countries. Let’s not forget what happened to many Native Americans on their own land, when many early, European immigrants came over here, and some within that population did whatever they could to get rid of Native Americans and disrepected their culture/way of life. [Edited 6/27/18 17:35pm]


Can they be tested?


They would never let the public know if they put anything in the food they give those children. They also shouldn’t be giving them any medication, whatsoever, without the knowledge of their parents.
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Reply #217 posted 07/01/18 8:57am

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Some of those children put into adoptive homes are ending up not being returned to the parent(s). The parent ends up losing custody.


They will put them in foster care and the older children probably from ages 11-17 in group homes. Question is, what’s going to happen to the youth who are 17 soon to be 18? Are they going to send them back? Who knows. This is a shame, America separating and stealing children from Brown and Black....again. All the protests all over the country yesterday, shows how angry many in this country are about the separation of those children from their parents. I truly hope this situation brings masses to the voting booth during the next presidential election.
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Reply #218 posted 07/01/18 9:07am

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lazycrockett said:


This administration does not give a fuck bout brown people who they consider "animals". They do not fucking care.




Trump made that clear fr5om the day he announced his run for the Presidency in 2015


Agree with both of you. Unfortunately, as long as trump is president, he will try his best to turn this country backwards and take away many human rights from both groups, and others as well. He is also intentionally trying to undo everything Obama did. Trumpbwill go down in history as one of the most disturbed, racist, childish and inhumane president of this country.
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Reply #219 posted 07/01/18 10:54am

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:

Trump made that clear fr5om the day he announced his run for the Presidency in 2015

Agree with both of you. Unfortunately, as long as trump is president, he will try his best to turn this country backwards and take away many human rights from both groups, and others as well. He is also intentionally trying to undo everything Obama did. Trumpbwill go down in history as one of the most disturbed, racist, childish and inhumane president of this country.

yet he has not done that at all and he has not made a single statement or move or hint that is his intent.

barack on the other hand wanted people to be put in prison for not buying something they may or may not want or need or use. as well as being openly opposed to the first and second amendments.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #220 posted 07/01/18 10:56am

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This administration does not give a fuck bout brown people who they consider "animals". They do not fucking care.

why make stuff up?

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #221 posted 07/01/18 10:57am

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Reply #222 posted 07/01/18 11:06am

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:



lazycrockett said:


This administration does not give a fuck bout brown people who they consider "animals". They do not fucking care.




Trump made that clear fr5om the day he announced his run for the Presidency in 2015


Agree with both of you. Unfortunately, as long as trump is president, he will try his best to turn this country backwards and take away many human rights from both groups, and others as well. He is also intentionally trying to undo everything Obama did. Trumpbwill go down in history as one of the most disturbed, racist, childish and inhumane president of this country.


Trump is an immoral and indecent man, racist and bigoted and sexist to the core. A hypocrite who lies from sentence to sentence. A man with absolutely no values whose only interest is his selfish needs for attention and to enrich himself.

And to see so many Americans hoodwinked by this fraud, and to readily accept his bigotry and inhumanity and calls for violence, makes it so much easier to understand how men like Hitler and Mussolini could rise to power.
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Reply #223 posted 07/01/18 12:22pm

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2elijah said:

luv4u said:

Some of those children put into adoptive homes are ending up not being returned to the parent(s). The parent ends up losing custody.

They will put them in foster care and the older children probably from ages 11-17 in group homes. Question is, what’s going to happen to the youth who are 17 soon to be 18? Are they going to send them back? Who knows. This is a shame, America separating and stealing children from Brown and Black....again. All the protests all over the country yesterday, shows how angry many in this country are about the separation of those children from their parents. I truly hope this situation brings masses to the voting booth during the next presidential election.


Probably dumped back in their home countries randomly. They aren't going to make them citizens or give them a path to citizenship, right? They are doing this on purpose. All these kids are collateral damage. I don't expect happy endings, we need the press to keep doing human interest stories about the children. Lot of protests around the country this weekend too.

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Reply #224 posted 07/01/18 3:12pm

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2elijah said:


Agree with both of you. Unfortunately, as long as trump is president, he will try his best to turn this country backwards and take away many human rights from both groups, and others as well. He is also intentionally trying to undo everything Obama did. Trumpbwill go down in history as one of the most disturbed, racist, childish and inhumane president of this country.


Trump is an immoral and indecent man, racist and bigoted and sexist to the core. A hypocrite who lies from sentence to sentence. A man with absolutely no values whose only interest is his selfish needs for attention and to enrich himself.

And to see so many Americans hoodwinked by this fraud, and to readily accept his bigotry and inhumanity and calls for violence, makes it so much easier to understand how men like Hitler and Mussolini could rise to power.

That goes to show you how easy it would be for those same types to support a dictator. If trump easily conned then, then they’d fall for anything. They knew of trump’s racial prejudice towards the Black and Brown population, and his disrespect and sexual harassment against women, and those delusional voters voted for him anyway. So they have a part in electing someone who likes breaking up the families of non-white non-Americans. Just look at the faces of trump’s supporters when he does his recent rallies. They celebrate his separation of Black and Brown families. It’s like looking at that photo of racists smiling and laughing at a Black man being lynched. Shame on America. I hope the Black and Brown population in America show up in masses, at the voting booths during the next presidential election.
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Reply #225 posted 07/01/18 3:40pm

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jjhunsecker said:
Trump is an immoral and indecent man, racist and bigoted and sexist to the core. A hypocrite who lies from sentence to sentence. A man with absolutely no values whose only interest is his selfish needs for attention and to enrich himself. And to see so many Americans hoodwinked by this fraud, and to readily accept his bigotry and inhumanity and calls for violence, makes it so much easier to understand how men like Hitler and Mussolini could rise to power.
That goes to show you how easy it would be for those same types to support a dictator. If trump easily conned then, then they’d fall for anything. They knew of trump’s racial prejudice towards the Black and Brown population, and his disrespect and sexual harassment against women, and those delusional voters voted for him anyway. So they have a part in electing someone who likes breaking up the families of non-white non-Americans. Just look at the faces of trump’s supporters when he does his recent rallies. They celebrate his separation of Black and Brown families. It’s like looking at that photo of racists smiling and laughing at a Black man being lynched. Shame on America. I hope the Black and Brown population in America show up in masses, at the voting booths during the next presidential election.

The garbage in charge will be in prison and we will vote these monsters out, then we can get this country back on track.

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Reply #226 posted 07/01/18 4:32pm

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2elijah said:

luv4u said: They will put them in foster care and the older children probably from ages 11-17 in group homes. Question is, what’s going to happen to the youth who are 17 soon to be 18? Are they going to send them back? Who knows. This is a shame, America separating and stealing children from Brown and Black....again. All the protests all over the country yesterday, shows how angry many in this country are about the separation of those children from their parents. I truly hope this situation brings masses to the voting booth during the next presidential election.


Probably dumped back in their home countries randomly. They aren't going to make them citizens or give them a path to citizenship, right? They are doing this on purpose. All these kids are collateral damage. I don't expect happy endings, we need the press to keep doing human interest stories about the children. Lot of protests around the country this weekend too.

2000 kids so at least 3000 people... right? So if they decided to take them all to your hometown and dropped them all off how many would you welcome to live with you?

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #227 posted 07/01/18 4:39pm

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I haven't had time to read the most recent posts in this thread but wanted to share this horrifying report from Elyzabeth Warren.

'Sunday morning, I flew to McAllen, Texas to find out what's really happening to immigrant families ripped apart by the Trump administration.

There's one thing that's very clear: The crisis at our border isn't over.

I went straight from the airport to the McAllen Customs and Border Protection (CBP) processing center that is the epicenter of Donald Trump's so-called "zero-tolerance" policy. This is where border patrol brings undocumented migrants for intake before they are either released, deported, turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), or, in the case of unaccompanied or separated children, placed in the custody of Health and Human Services.

From the outside, the CBP processing center looks like any other warehouse on a commercial street lined with warehouses. There's no clue about the horrors inside...'

Read more: https://www.facebook.com/...2214623687

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Reply #228 posted 07/01/18 4:52pm

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where was she a few years ago when this same thing happened? LOL oh yeah she could not say anything it might hurt obama or hillary... LOL sad..

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Reply #229 posted 07/01/18 9:19pm

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where was she a few years ago when this same thing happened? LOL oh yeah she could not say anything it might hurt obama or hillary... LOL sad..


for the sake of the topic of this thread about the detained and locked up children who don't know the whereabouts of their parents, guardians or sister and brothers,
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Reply #230 posted 07/01/18 9:35pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

where was she a few years ago when this same thing happened? LOL oh yeah she could not say anything it might hurt obama or hillary... LOL sad..

for the sake of the topic of this thread about the detained and locked up children who don't know the whereabouts of their parents, guardians or sister and brothers, "don't for heaven's sake, be afraid of talking nonsense! but you must pay attention to your nonsense.". 😬 [Edited 7/1/18 21:20pm]

Do you deny that children were held in the same conditions under obama?

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #231 posted 07/01/18 10:12pm

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2elijah said:
Agree with both of you. Unfortunately, as long as trump is president, he will try his best to turn this country backwards and take away many human rights from both groups, and others as well. He is also intentionally trying to undo everything Obama did. Trumpbwill go down in history as one of the most disturbed, racist, childish and inhumane president of this country.

Trump is an immoral and indecent man, racist and bigoted and sexist to the core. A hypocrite who lies from sentence to sentence. A man with absolutely no values whose only interest is his selfish needs for attention and to enrich himself. And to see so many Americans hoodwinked by this fraud, and to readily accept his bigotry and inhumanity and calls for violence, makes it so much easier to understand how men like Hitler and Mussolini could rise to power.


The people who want to take away women's rights by overturning Roe v Wade are the same people who condone taking children from their families and putting them in kennels like dogs, or worse. I guess we're supposd to have babies so they can destroy them after they get here.

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Reply #232 posted 07/02/18 11:56am

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poppys said:

jjhunsecker said:

2elijah said:
Trump is an immoral and indecent man, racist and bigoted and sexist to the core. A hypocrite who lies from sentence to sentence. A man with absolutely no values whose only interest is his selfish needs for attention and to enrich himself. And to see so many Americans hoodwinked by this fraud, and to readily accept his bigotry and inhumanity and calls for violence, makes it so much easier to understand how men like Hitler and Mussolini could rise to power.


The people who want to take away women's rights by overturning Roe v Wade are the same people who condone taking children from their families and putting them in kennels like dogs, or worse. I guess we're supposd to have babies so they can destroy them after they get here.


I watched a little girl reuntied with her mother after two months - they were both sobbing. This whole separation thing is unconscionable.


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Reply #233 posted 07/02/18 2:27pm

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poppys said:

jjhunsecker said:

2elijah said:
Trump is an immoral and indecent man, racist and bigoted and sexist to the core. A hypocrite who lies from sentence to sentence. A man with absolutely no values whose only interest is his selfish needs for attention and to enrich himself. And to see so many Americans hoodwinked by this fraud, and to readily accept his bigotry and inhumanity and calls for violence, makes it so much easier to understand how men like Hitler and Mussolini could rise to power.


The people who want to take away women's rights by overturning Roe v Wade are the same people who condone taking children from their families and putting them in kennels like dogs, or worse. I guess we're supposd to have babies so they can destroy them after they get here.

the same ones that want to be able to rip a baby limb from limb are the ones crying about this so... if you want to bring in roe v wade lets do so.

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Reply #234 posted 07/03/18 4:34am

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Some of these kids have already been entered in the foster system. Now the parents will have a harder time trying to get them back.


It pisses me off that the kids are being shipped across the US and put in the foster system. Don't ship them out anywhere, don't put them in foster care. Crossing the border is only a misdemeanor. I can't believe we are still dealing with this weeks later and nothing has been done to get this problem corrected, which BTW Trump caused.


I sincerely hope that this opens up voters eyes and start voting these people out.

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Reply #235 posted 07/03/18 8:45am

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Some of these kids have already been entered in the foster system. Now the parents will have a harder time trying to get them back.


It pisses me off that the kids are being shipped across the US and put in the foster system. Don't ship them out anywhere, don't put them in foster care. Crossing the border is only a misdemeanor. I can't believe we are still dealing with this weeks later and nothing has been done to get this problem corrected, which BTW Trump caused.


I sincerely hope that this opens up voters eyes and start voting these people out.

wait so now you are madder that they are out of the 'cages'? and being in foster care has ZERO impact on being reunited. and you understand that a number of these were unaccompanied minors.... you know that right?

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Reply #236 posted 07/03/18 8:48am

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Reply #237 posted 07/03/18 8:56am

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wrong

context?


Are you saying I am wrong? about what?

that PennyPurple is madder that they are out of the centers and now in foster care?


that being in foster care has no impact on the ease of being reunited?

or that some of the 'kids' (as was the case last time the ages are a wide range and I know for a FACT that they often lie about age so they will be able to get into school) were unaccompanied?

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Reply #238 posted 07/03/18 8:58am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

Some of these kids have already been entered in the foster system. Now the parents will have a harder time trying to get them back.


It pisses me off that the kids are being shipped across the US and put in the foster system. Don't ship them out anywhere, don't put them in foster care. Crossing the border is only a misdemeanor. I can't believe we are still dealing with this weeks later and nothing has been done to get this problem corrected, which BTW Trump caused.


I sincerely hope that this opens up voters eyes and start voting these people out.

wait so now you are madder that they are out of the 'cages'? and being in foster care has ZERO impact on being reunited. and you understand that a number of these were unaccompanied minors.... you know that right?

You are wrong. Once they enter the foster system, chances are they will not get their kids back. I'm not talking about the unaccompanied ones. They shouldn't have went into the foster system to begin with, nor should they've been shipped all over the US.

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Reply #239 posted 07/03/18 9:03am

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PennyPurple said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

wait so now you are madder that they are out of the 'cages'? and being in foster care has ZERO impact on being reunited. and you understand that a number of these were unaccompanied minors.... you know that right?

You are wrong. Once they enter the foster system, chances are they will not get their kids back. I'm not talking about the unaccompanied ones. They shouldn't have went into the foster system to begin with, nor should they've been shipped all over the US.

I do not believe you... and wait? you do not want them in homes or in cages or spread out? so where should they be put?

And do you have any evidence that the kids put into foster care were not unaccompanied?

But yeah how would being in foster care (which is almost always temporary) hinder being reunited with parents?


it seems that nothing short of just being allowed to stay unhindered will make you happy... which is not even what you really believe? you do not believe in open borders NO ONE does.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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