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UPDATE: Notre-Dame fire: What's been lost, what's been saved and where there's hope [Before & After Pics]

Oh no, lot's of history going up in flames.

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Reply #1 posted 04/15/19 10:37am

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/15/paris-notre-dame-cathedral-on-fire-reuters.html


Smoke could be seen billowing out from the top of the medieval cathedral, as flames leaped out besides its two bell towers, a Reuters witness said.



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Reply #2 posted 04/15/19 10:42am

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Oh man. It's toast. This sucks.

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Reply #3 posted 04/15/19 10:53am

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That is terrible. I'll never go to France. It's horrific to watch.
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Reply #4 posted 04/15/19 10:55am

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Hopefully everyone is safe. People may be inside. They don't know the cause.
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Reply #5 posted 04/15/19 11:01am

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It's so heartbreaking. All that history up in flames. sad

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Reply #6 posted 04/15/19 11:17am

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That is so horrible. I am grateful I got the chance to visit in 1996. A beautiful, majestic place with so much history.
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Reply #7 posted 04/15/19 11:30am

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Horrifying!!! Visited Notre Dame in the last 2 years. If you've never seen it up close, you cannot even imaging how amazing it is. I hope they can save it <3

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Reply #8 posted 04/15/19 11:43am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Horrifying!!! Visited Notre Dame in the last 2 years. If you've never seen it up close, you cannot even imaging how amazing it is. I hope they can save it <3


The Cathedral Spire has collapsed. The building looks to be fully engulfed. It doesn't look like there will be any way to save it. This building was built in the 12th or 13th centuries, and I imagine everything in there was just really old and really dry.

I just pray that everyone got out of the building safely.

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Reply #9 posted 04/15/19 12:00pm

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Horrible 😢 just watch it live on the news
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Reply #10 posted 04/15/19 12:48pm

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https://www.cbsnews.com/l...-in-paris/



Video above.


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I have visted the Notre Dame. Beautiful church inside. I am devastated. Heart broken bawl


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Reply #11 posted 04/15/19 12:49pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Horrifying!!! Visited Notre Dame in the last 2 years. If you've never seen it up close, you cannot even imaging how amazing it is. I hope they can save it <3




The Cathedral Spire has collapsed. The building looks to be fully engulfed. It doesn't look like there will be any way to save it. This building was built in the 12th or 13th centuries, and I imagine everything in there was just really old and really dry.

I just pray that everyone got out of the building safely.


Actually, it was restored in the 19th century. But it's still a huge loss. I hope the fire won't spread too far.
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Reply #12 posted 04/15/19 1:06pm

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Looks like it may be a total loss.

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PennyPurple said:

Looks like it may be a total loss.



They have managed to get art works etc, to safety

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Reply #14 posted 04/15/19 1:24pm

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Notre Dame housed the following items. I hope and pray they are safe.


Crown of Thorns


Fragment of the wood of the Cross in which Jesus was crucified


The nail that was used to nail Jesus to the Cross.


A stone said to be from the site where Jesus was crucified.

The Bell.

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Reply #16 posted 04/15/19 1:39pm

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Lord have Mercy. Make no mistake this attack goes deeper than what is on the surface. This is an attack on Christianity as a whole.
[Edited 4/15/19 13:40pm]
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Lord have Mercy. Make no mistake this attack goes deeper than what is on the surface. This is an attack on Christianity as a whole. [Edited 4/15/19 13:40pm]



There was no attack

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Reply #18 posted 04/15/19 1:46pm

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Some history of the Notre Dame Cathedral

Timeline of construction

  • 1160 Maurice de Sully (named Bishop of Paris) orders the original cathedral demolished.
  • 1163 Cornerstone laid for Notre-Dame de Paris; construction begins.
  • 1182 Apse and choir completed.
  • 1196 Bishop Maurice de Sully dies.
  • c.1200 Work begins on western facade.
  • 1208 Bishop Eudes de Sully dies. Nave vaults nearing completion.
  • 1225 Western facade completed.
  • 1250 Western towers and north rose window completed.
  • c.1245–1260s Transepts remodelled in the rayonnant style by Jean de Chelles then Pierre de Montreuil.
  • 14th century New flying buttresses added to apse and choir.

Modern history

In 1548, rioting Huguenots damaged some of the statues of Notre-Dame, considering them idolatrous.[13] During the reigns of Louis XIV and Louis XV, the cathedral underwent numerous alterations to comply with the more classical style of the period. The sanctuary was re-arranged; the choir was largely rebuilt in marble, and many of the stained glass windows from the 12th and 13th century were removed and replaced with white glass windows, to bring more light into the church. A colossal statue of St Christopher, standing against a pillar near the western entrance and dating from 1413, was destroyed in 1786. The spire, which had been damaged by the wind, was removed in the second part of the 18th century.

In 1793, during the French Revolution, the cathedral was rededicated to the Cult of Reason, and then to the Cult of the Supreme Being. During this time, many of the treasures of the cathedral were either destroyed or plundered. The twenty-eight statues of biblical kings located at the west facade, mistaken for statues of French kings, were beheaded.[14]Many of the heads were found during a 1977 excavation nearby, and are on display at the Musée de Cluny. For a time the Goddess of Liberty replaced the Virgin Mary on several altars.[15] The cathedral's great bells escaped being melted down. All of the other large statues on the facade, with the exception of the statue of the Virgin Mary on the portal of the cloister, were destroyed.[9] The cathedral came to be used as a warehouse for the storage of food and other non-religious purposes.[13]

In July 1801, the new ruler, Napoleon Bonaparte, signed an agreement to restore the cathedral to the Church. It was formally transferred on 18 April 1802. It was the setting of Napoleon's coronation as Emperor on 2 December 1804, and of his marriage to Marie-Louise of Austria in 1810.

The cathedral was functioning in the early 19th century, but was half-ruined inside and battered without. In 1831, the novel Notre-Dame de Paris by Victor Hugo, published in English as The Hunchback of Notre-Dame had an enormous success, and brought the cathedral new attention. In 1844 King Louis Philippe ordered that the church be restored. The commission for the restoration was won by two architects, Jean-Baptiste-Antoine Lassus and Eugène Viollet-le-Duc, who was then just 31 years old. They supervised a large team of sculptors, glass makers and other craftsmen who remade, working from drawings or engravings, the original decoration, or, if they did not have a model, adding new elements they felt were in the spirit of the original style. They made a taller and more ornate reconstruction of the original spire (including a statue of Saint Thomas that resembles Viollet-le-Duc), as well as adding the sculpture of mythical creatures on the Galerie des Chimères. The restoration lasted twenty five years.[13]

During the liberation of Paris in August 1944, the cathedral suffered some minor damage from stray bullets. Some of the medieval glass was damaged, and was replaced by glass with modern abstract designs. On 26 August, a special mass was held in the cathedral to celebrate the liberation of Paris from the Germans; it was attended by General Charles De Gaulle and General Philippe Leclerc.


In 1963, on the initiative of culture minister André Malraux and to mark the 800th anniversary of the Cathedral, the facade was cleaned of the centuries of soot and grime, restoring it to its original off-white color.[16]

Stones damaged by air pollution were replaced, and a discreet system of electrical wires, not visible from below, was installed on the roof to deter pigeons. Another major cleaning and restoration program was commenced in 1991.

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Krystalkisses said:


Lord have Mercy. Make no mistake this attack goes deeper than what is on the surface. This is an attack on Christianity as a whole. [Edited 4/15/19 13:40pm]



There was no attack



Catholic Churchs have been getting desecrated across France..i don't believe this was an isolated incident. I don't care what the official B.S. story is either.
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Reports are coming in that the main stone structure has been saved and preserved.

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Reply #21 posted 04/15/19 1:58pm

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Aerial footage of the fire:

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^^^^^^^^^^ bawl bawl

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Reply #23 posted 04/15/19 2:08pm

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That is so sad
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Reply #24 posted 04/15/19 2:09pm

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Devastating

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luv4u said:

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This is a loss for the whole world.

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Some of it may be saved.
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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benni said:

luv4u said:

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This is a loss for the whole world.

cry This is terribly sad. Paris is my favorite city. ND is an awesome and beautiful structure, and a holy place of devotion.

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Reply #28 posted 04/15/19 3:18pm

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luv4u said:



There was no attack

Catholic Churchs have been getting desecrated across France..i don't believe this was an isolated incident. I don't care what the official B.S. story is either.

There was no attack.

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Though sad the press is wrong in saying this was more tragic then the Bataclan terrorist shooting. That took 100+ people. Would not be shocked if some terrorist set the fire.

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