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jjhunsecker

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For those easily “offended “ by any usage of the so-called “N word”...

.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!
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Reply #1 posted 01/08/20 5:58pm

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and if Michael Richards had done the same bit?

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jjhunsecker said:

.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!


Saw it - was hilarious! Chappelle's ongoing commentary on how the word is used is best expressed in the episode of the Chappele Show --> "The Nigga Family" who were ironically white. lol OMG the verbal puns he threw out in that skit were priceless!

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DiminutiveRocker said:



jjhunsecker said:


.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!


Saw it - was hilarious! Chappelle's ongoing commentary on how the word is used is best expressed in the episode of the Chappele Show --> "The Nigga Family" who were ironically white. lol OMG the verbal puns he threw out in that skit were priceless!



A brilliant sketch, almost as great as “Clayton Bigsby”, the blind White supremacist who didn’t know that he was actually Black himself!
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Reply #4 posted 01/09/20 9:35am

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My god, the comments from a particular person on this thread and many other threads just boggles my mind. People are so clueless about life.

Yes, the skit was hiliarious, but I still do not like hearing the word used.

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Reply #5 posted 01/09/20 9:50am

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jjhunsecker said:

.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!



I don't like the N word or any variants, but I'd like to see Chappelle's bit. I'll look it up.

Did he use that word because Mark Twain used it a lot in his books? I can see how the two things could be tied together by the right person.

But tell me what you think of this:

One of our charities collects books for school kids and then we distribute them throughout various elementary schools. Last month my wife and I were at a school distributing books, and one of the books was a collection of Mark Twain novels - including The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

I checked the book jacket and there was the word "unabridged". I figured that meant the books included N word and all, and I was right. So I took that book out of the stack and brought it home with me. I didn't want any elementary school kids reading it.

Do you think I did the right thing?

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Reply #6 posted 01/09/20 10:38am

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It is interesting that AAs are the only group who have taken complete control over their own racial slur. Just as interesting are those who are upset or jealous about it and seem to be putting up a fight to take it back.
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Reply #7 posted 01/09/20 10:39am

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Empress said:

My god, the comments from a particular person on this thread and many other threads just boggles my mind. People are so clueless about life.



Yes, the skit was hiliarious, but I still do not like hearing the word used.



I certainly respect those who never want to hear words like that ever, in any context.

Also, there are some on here who are trying to push an agenda, and just want to play “gotcha”, instead of engaging in a dialogue on the issues
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Reply #8 posted 01/09/20 10:46am

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RodeoSchro said:



jjhunsecker said:


.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!



I don't like the N word or any variants, but I'd like to see Chappelle's bit. I'll look it up.

Did he use that word because Mark Twain used it a lot in his books? I can see how the two things could be tied together by the right person.

But tell me what you think of this:

One of our charities collects books for school kids and then we distribute them throughout various elementary schools. Last month my wife and I were at a school distributing books, and one of the books was a collection of Mark Twain novels - including The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

I checked the book jacket and there was the word "unabridged". I figured that meant the books included N word and all, and I was right. So I took that book out of the stack and brought it home with me. I didn't want any elementary school kids reading it.

Do you think I did the right thing?



Actually Colin Jost from SNL had a joke relating to Mark Twain and that word.

As for the books, you did what you felt was right in your heart.
I myself prefer that they use these books for teachable moments. If the kids are old enough, a good teacher can use this as an opportunity to explain the ugliness of bigotry, and the pervasiveness of it, especially in those days. Perhaps explore how Jim himself may have felt constantly hearing the word applied to him.
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Reply #9 posted 01/09/20 1:12pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

and if Michael Richards had done the same bit?



Come on, you know there's a difference. You're just being silly now. Even Michael Richards knows there's a difference. He referenced it when he guest starred on Curb Your Enthusiasm and acknowledged that he was wrong many times.
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RodeoSchro said:



jjhunsecker said:


.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!



I don't like the N word or any variants, but I'd like to see Chappelle's bit. I'll look it up.

Did he use that word because Mark Twain used it a lot in his books? I can see how the two things could be tied together by the right person.

But tell me what you think of this:

One of our charities collects books for school kids and then we distribute them throughout various elementary schools. Last month my wife and I were at a school distributing books, and one of the books was a collection of Mark Twain novels - including The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

I checked the book jacket and there was the word "unabridged". I figured that meant the books included N word and all, and I was right. So I took that book out of the stack and brought it home with me. I didn't want any elementary school kids reading it.

Do you think I did the right thing?



Now, I'm whiter than snow so you can take my opinion with a pinch of salt but for what it's worth, I don't believe that history should be censored. Slavery in America, the Holocaust in Germany, the British killing the Irish and treating us as less than human, the constant criminal activity in the Catholic church, all of it. Kids should learn about all of it. As JJ said, these are teachable moments. Explain to the children why this kind of thing is wrong and how it impacts society and fuels even more hatred.
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RodeoSchro said:

jjhunsecker said:

.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!



I don't like the N word or any variants, but I'd like to see Chappelle's bit. I'll look it up.

Did he use that word because Mark Twain used it a lot in his books? I can see how the two things could be tied together by the right person.

But tell me what you think of this:

One of our charities collects books for school kids and then we distribute them throughout various elementary schools. Last month my wife and I were at a school distributing books, and one of the books was a collection of Mark Twain novels - including The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

I checked the book jacket and there was the word "unabridged". I figured that meant the books included N word and all, and I was right. So I took that book out of the stack and brought it home with me. I didn't want any elementary school kids reading it.

Do you think I did the right thing?

That´s a very good question. We´re having the same dilemma over here because of the use of the word "negro" in Astrid Lindgren´s original Pippi Longstocking books. Back then (1960s) the word was used without a racist connotation but these days, for obvious reasons, it is no longer used, at least not in a "normal" context. While I think it´s a good idea to eliminate the word, or rather, its use in everyday conversations, I am not sure if censoring or rewriting them is a good idea. At the moment I´m a bit torn on this because I think most kids are smart enough to understand that the word has changed its meaning over time.

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As far as the use of the "N" word is concerned , I am against it for many reasons.

One of them being that it has made using a racial slur so common and so popular that even white kids call each other "n...." these days and it has even spread over to other minority groups here. Not necessarily the same word but it has become popular to use racial slurs in normal conversations and songs that would have been deemed controversial, racist and taboo a decade ago.

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I think context and true intention are key here.

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jjhunsecker said:

.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!

Yeah I saw that, hhhhmmm, The N word is very very Tricky. razz smile I saw the way he used it funny! It showed even in clips from stand up using it, funny, with White Folks in the audience! heehee Now what if somebody White in the audience would have shouted out the N word back to him trying to be funny! Would that been Hilarious? razz

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Reply #13 posted 01/09/20 2:54pm

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EmmaMcG said:

RodeoSchro said:



I don't like the N word or any variants, but I'd like to see Chappelle's bit. I'll look it up.

Did he use that word because Mark Twain used it a lot in his books? I can see how the two things could be tied together by the right person.

But tell me what you think of this:

One of our charities collects books for school kids and then we distribute them throughout various elementary schools. Last month my wife and I were at a school distributing books, and one of the books was a collection of Mark Twain novels - including The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

I checked the book jacket and there was the word "unabridged". I figured that meant the books included N word and all, and I was right. So I took that book out of the stack and brought it home with me. I didn't want any elementary school kids reading it.

Do you think I did the right thing?

Now, I'm whiter than snow so you can take my opinion with a pinch of salt but for what it's worth, I don't believe that history should be censored. Slavery in America, the Holocaust in Germany, the British killing the Irish and treating us as less than human, the constant criminal activity in the Catholic church, all of it. Kids should learn about all of it. As JJ said, these are teachable moments. Explain to the children why this kind of thing is wrong and how it impacts society and fuels even more hatred.

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Reply #15 posted 01/09/20 3:10pm

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jjhunsecker said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Saw it - was hilarious! Chappelle's ongoing commentary on how the word is used is best expressed in the episode of the Chappele Show --> "The Nigga Family" who were ironically white. lol OMG the verbal puns he threw out in that skit were priceless!

A brilliant sketch, almost as great as “Clayton Bigsby”, the blind White supremacist who didn’t know that he was actually Black himself!

YES!!! lol that was brilliant!

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Reply #16 posted 01/09/20 5:08pm

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jjhunsecker said:

.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!

I live through Jim Crow, white men in particular call black men "[N word snip - luv4u]" or boy, isn't what I was characterize as "easily offended". I doubt if Chappelle had lived in that time he would think twice about using that word. The fact that his parents and grand parents did and fail to school him, is not uncommon in the Black community. It explains why we stayed in Jim Crow longer then Black should have, tt explains why we are still as the bottom without a plain or a clue.

Richard Pryor said, he used the word in his routine to give the word less power. After Mr. Pryor traveled though out Africa he never use nigger in his routines again. Malcom X spoke of black people being so brainwashed they believed and project the images that white people have painted of us. Chappelle is hypocrite...that's probably another thread for another time.

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jjhunsecker said:


.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!



I live through Jim Crow, white men in particular call black men "[N word snip - luv4u]" or boy, isn't what I was characterize as "easily offended". I doubt if Chappelle had lived in that time he would think twice about using that word. The fact that his parents and grand parents did and fail to school him, is not uncommon in the Black community. It explains why we stayed in Jim Crow longer then Black should have, tt explains why we are still as the bottom without a plain or a clue.




Richard Pryor said, he used the word in his routine to give the word less power. After Mr. Pryor traveled though out Africa he never use nigger in his routines again. Malcom X spoke of black people being so brainwashed they believed and project the images that white people have painted of us. Chappelle is hypocrite...that's probably another thread for another time.




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You have very valid points, even if we disagree...

My point is that there are some here who will pretend to be “offended “, in order to try to score political points. These are the same folks who constantly DEFEND the likes of Donald Trump and others from legitimate accusations of racism.
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Reply #18 posted 01/10/20 8:42am

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He's black Only. You are always always always wrong.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #19 posted 01/10/20 8:50am

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2freaky4church1 said:

He's black Only. You are always always always wrong.

That's a dumb remark. Uh, of course he's black only.

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I was talking to Only, the bigoted guy.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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TD3 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

He's black Only. You are always always always wrong.

That's a dumb remark. Uh, of course he's black only.

lol He mean, "He's black, OnlyndaUSA" lol

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Reply #22 posted 01/10/20 12:17pm

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jjhunsecker said:


.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!



I live through Jim Crow, white men in particular call black men "[N word snip - luv4u]" or boy, isn't what I was characterize as "easily offended". I doubt if Chappelle had lived in that time he would think twice about using that word. The fact that his parents and grand parents did and fail to school him, is not uncommon in the Black community. It explains why we stayed in Jim Crow longer then Black should have, tt explains why we are still as the bottom without a plain or a clue.




Richard Pryor said, he used the word in his routine to give the word less power. After Mr. Pryor traveled though out Africa he never use nigger in his routines again. Malcom X spoke of black people being so brainwashed they believed and project the images that white people have painted of us. Chappelle is hypocrite...that's probably another thread for another time.




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The YT clip I posted had information about DC I didn't know. Both his parents were college professors and activists. Dave is well versed which gives his comedy a unique insight. Personally I never use the word, I find it annoying hearing it in general conversation especially around children and I realize there's not a thing I can do about it. At the same time I get it in certain context. And right now I get the comedic world has been and will continue to be rebellious. Right now many are extra rebellious.
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Reply #23 posted 01/10/20 2:24pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

I was talking to Only, the bigoted guy.

so classy... but you can not find anything I've said that is bigoted. What I did do is make the point that JJ has a double standard.

Not just because he gives Chappelle a pass but because he is willing to give white people he likes a pass...but as you may have noticed he ignored the reply...and I am sure he would not in the case of Richards.

I rather no one use the word. But that is not the same as the bit being otherwise funny or not funny.

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RodeoSchro said:

jjhunsecker said:

.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!



I don't like the N word or any variants, but I'd like to see Chappelle's bit. I'll look it up.

Did he use that word because Mark Twain used it a lot in his books? I can see how the two things could be tied together by the right person.

But tell me what you think of this:

One of our charities collects books for school kids and then we distribute them throughout various elementary schools. Last month my wife and I were at a school distributing books, and one of the books was a collection of Mark Twain novels - including The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

I checked the book jacket and there was the word "unabridged". I figured that meant the books included N word and all, and I was right. So I took that book out of the stack and brought it home with me. I didn't want any elementary school kids reading it.

Do you think I did the right thing?


As Spike Lee would say, yes absolutely you did. The more kids/adults/whatever see/hear/use the word, the longer it will live on. The only way to truly abolish it is to stop using it, period. There are plenty of other racial and ethnic slurs that died off long ago, because people stopped using them.

So by preventing impressionable young children from seeing the word in those books, you may have helped eradicate the word someday. So thank you.

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KoolEaze said:

these days, for obvious reasons, it is no longer used, at least not in a "normal" context.


Wrong.

I see the word, spelled exactly the same way, on many product labels. That's because in Spanish "negro" means black, period. Not necessarily a person.



Image result for black ink cartridge negro"

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jjhunsecker said:

RodeoSchro said:



I don't like the N word or any variants, but I'd like to see Chappelle's bit. I'll look it up.

Did he use that word because Mark Twain used it a lot in his books? I can see how the two things could be tied together by the right person.

But tell me what you think of this:

One of our charities collects books for school kids and then we distribute them throughout various elementary schools. Last month my wife and I were at a school distributing books, and one of the books was a collection of Mark Twain novels - including The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

I checked the book jacket and there was the word "unabridged". I figured that meant the books included N word and all, and I was right. So I took that book out of the stack and brought it home with me. I didn't want any elementary school kids reading it.

Do you think I did the right thing?

Actually Colin Jost from SNL had a joke relating to Mark Twain and that word. As for the books, you did what you felt was right in your heart. I myself prefer that they use these books for teachable moments. If the kids are old enough, a good teacher can use this as an opportunity to explain the ugliness of bigotry, and the pervasiveness of it, especially in those days. Perhaps explore how Jim himself may have felt constantly hearing the word applied to him.

Agreed. And the word was used in the time period depicted in Huck Finn - it was a part (albeit, an ugly part) of the culture at *that time* - it is revisionist history to act as if people were not demoralized, demeaned and dehumanized by that word. The word and its usage can be explained to children before letting them read Twain's classics, IMO.

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DiminutiveRocker said:



jjhunsecker said:


RodeoSchro said:




I don't like the N word or any variants, but I'd like to see Chappelle's bit. I'll look it up.

Did he use that word because Mark Twain used it a lot in his books? I can see how the two things could be tied together by the right person.

But tell me what you think of this:

One of our charities collects books for school kids and then we distribute them throughout various elementary schools. Last month my wife and I were at a school distributing books, and one of the books was a collection of Mark Twain novels - including The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

I checked the book jacket and there was the word "unabridged". I figured that meant the books included N word and all, and I was right. So I took that book out of the stack and brought it home with me. I didn't want any elementary school kids reading it.

Do you think I did the right thing?



Actually Colin Jost from SNL had a joke relating to Mark Twain and that word. As for the books, you did what you felt was right in your heart. I myself prefer that they use these books for teachable moments. If the kids are old enough, a good teacher can use this as an opportunity to explain the ugliness of bigotry, and the pervasiveness of it, especially in those days. Perhaps explore how Jim himself may have felt constantly hearing the word applied to him.


Agreed. And the word was used in the time period depicted in Huck Finn - it was a part (albeit, an ugly part) of the culture at *that time* - it is revisionist history to act as if people were not demoralized, demeaned and dehumanized by that word. The word and its usage can be explained to children before letting them read Twain's classics, IMO.





I totally agree. I don’t think anything should be banned, especially works of art that are now “problematic “. These should be seen and read and especially taught, so people can learn how others thought and behaved in the past (or even today), and what behaviors and attitudes were accepted and widespread.

I think even Nazi propagandist films and writing should be available, in the right context. Again, you can’t learn from something that is being hidden or has been destroyed.
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Reply #28 posted 01/10/20 5:32pm

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I see some guy is calling me out by name here, and complained that I “ignored “ some ridiculous point he was attempting to make.... Well, that’s consistent, since I have ignored this individual for the past few years, no matter how many times he tries to engage me or bait me... I don’t have time for silly trolling games, or the stomach to deal with someone who runs to the mods to complain whenever someone writes something he doesn’t like...

Now let’s get back to the adults having a discussion....
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Reply #29 posted 01/10/20 5:40pm

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Pokeno4Money said:



RodeoSchro said:




jjhunsecker said:


.... I sure as hell hope that you didn’t watch the Mark Twain Humor Prize Ceremony on PBS honoring Dave Chappelle... because he used that word at least 50 times!!! And it was fucking hilarious!!



I don't like the N word or any variants, but I'd like to see Chappelle's bit. I'll look it up.

Did he use that word because Mark Twain used it a lot in his books? I can see how the two things could be tied together by the right person.

But tell me what you think of this:

One of our charities collects books for school kids and then we distribute them throughout various elementary schools. Last month my wife and I were at a school distributing books, and one of the books was a collection of Mark Twain novels - including The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

I checked the book jacket and there was the word "unabridged". I figured that meant the books included N word and all, and I was right. So I took that book out of the stack and brought it home with me. I didn't want any elementary school kids reading it.

Do you think I did the right thing?




As Spike Lee would say, yes absolutely you did. The more kids/adults/whatever see/hear/use the word, the longer it will live on. The only way to truly abolish it is to stop using it, period. There are plenty of other racial and ethnic slurs that died off long ago, because people stopped using them.

So by preventing impressionable young children from seeing the word in those books, you may have helped eradicate the word someday. So thank you.



Yet in that very film, Spike Lee has Pino use that word several times, to illustrate his ignorance and hatred. And that very word used by Sal precipitated a violent confrontation. It would be extremely unrealistic NOT to use the word in this context, to show the power and the ugliness of it in certain contexts.

(And I grew up around lots of guys just like Pino, who loved Black culture but hated n****rs....That character was very true to life
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