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Covid 19 :: Warning: Chloroquine Phosphate - There is No Antidote

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See/call your doctor first before taking any kind drug recommended to you by anyone. At this time there is no antidote for Covid 19.


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Arizona man dies after self-medicating with chloroquine to treat coronavirus


(CNN)A Phoenix-area man is dead and his wife is under critical care after the two took chloroquine phosphate in an apparent attempt to self-medicate for the novel coronavirus, according to hospital system Banner Health.


It does not appear they took the pharmaceutical version of the drug, but rather "an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks," Banner Health said in a statement.
Though Banner did not provide additional details, NBC News spoke to the wife, who said they learned of chloroquine's connection to coronavirus during a President Donald Trump news conference, which "was on a lot actually."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html






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Reply #1 posted 03/24/20 7:53am

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Glad you posted this. Yesterday I read about 3 Nigerians who overdosed on that. Last week there was a physician who said that the antimalarial drug that was used during the Ebola crisis, had long term effects. He said that patients who take it, that years after taken, could develop cardiac issues, and not even realize it was that drug that would be the cause of it. This was before those 2 drugs was mentioned in the media.

Even Dr Fauci said more testing of it has to be done. It seems many will be desperate and try to get hold of it. I wish they would hold back in the media, on naming any drug that may be a possibility of curing this virus, until the drugs have been fully tested, and considered safe.
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Ok, so since there is no vaccine yet and the President and others want to get the economy moving again. A few have put it bluntly that older people would be willing to put themselves at risk for the sake of the economy. Sacrifice themselves lol.

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Now I would never go that far, or even put it out there like that, (what's wrong with these people). But I do think there has to a plan. Limbo is not a plan and it does not reassure anybody.

Being in the dark, even as no one knows what the future has in store without talk of what we plan on doing afterwards is not good leadership. So I at least give props to the President for stepping up.
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Gov Cuomo has outlined the need for equipment and supplies as well as emergency capacity. I say we pull the trigger on all that and not wait any further. The government should mandate its procurement and implementation.

I think Cuomo has been doing a great job by the way.

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Now I don't envy the good people tasked with protecting the people and the limitations in resources and options. Especially as we now need to factor viability.
But we do need to factor all the costs, to life and the economy. It has to be done.

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I support the "right to try." I do think that people should be allowed to try meds either off label or that have not yet passed testing. But they need to know there are risks--and it is not to be done willy nilly. I think any doctor that approves any off label use should warn the patient...and it should be (unless there is gross neglgence: Conrad Murray) on the patient and not the doctor.


There are vaccines for some illness that are not given very often due to the risks. But thoes are approved... but are limited.

I also think it was reckless for trump to name the drug (or for any public figures from naming it) as a possable cure. The one story that has been published seems fishy to me....

But anyway: if a doctor and a patient agree and do so with the best information avaliable and if there is some reason to belive it could be effective... go for it.

But to use fishtank cleaner? and apprently unsupervised (the stoy that is being told is he would have likely died due to the drug if not for other emergancy care) is foolish.

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Agreed

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I support the "right to try." I do think that people should be allowed to try meds either off label or that have not yet passed testing. But they need to know there are risks--and it is not to be done willy nilly. I think any doctor that approves any off label use should warn the patient...and it should be (unless there is gross neglgence: Conrad Murray) on the patient and not the doctor.


There are vaccines for some illness that are not given very often due to the risks. But thoes are approved... but are limited.

I also think it was reckless for trump to name the drug (or for any public figures from naming it) as a possable cure. The one story that has been published seems fishy to me....

But anyway: if a doctor and a patient agree and do so with the best information avaliable and if there is some reason to belive it could be effective... go for it.

But to use fishtank cleaner? and apprently unsupervised (the stoy that is being told is he would have likely died due to the drug if not for other emergancy care) is foolish.

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Another good time to advice people from getting information from the cesspool of misinformation- Facebook.

Health experts warn against some advice spreading on social media that purports to offer ways of combating the coronavirus. Folks, there’s no remedy for COVID-19, just preventative measures.

This content is being provided for free as a public service to our readers during the coronavirus outbreak.

LAKELAND — You might have heard the four-minute recording that is circulating on social media.

An unidentified woman, speaking with what sounds like an Australian accent, says she is passing along information sent to her by a colleague who has a friend who works at a hospital.

The friend, it seems, has access to information gathered by Chinese authorities from autopsies performed on people who died of COVID-19, the new coronavirus that emerged in that country in late December.

The woman then recites a list of recommendations “for what you can do to safeguard yourself.”

The advice includes drinking plenty of hot liquids and taking a sip of warm water every 20 minutes — “because this keeps your mouth moist and washes any of the virus that’s entered your mouth into your stomach, where the gastric acids will neutralize it before it gets to the lungs.”

As COVID-19 spreads across the globe, having infected nearly 400,000 people and killed more than 16,000 as of Monday, it’s understandable that we seek out protecting ourselves against the virus. The disease spreads to the lungs, where it can cause potentially fatal complications.

Medical authorities, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, have offered guidance on limiting your chances of contracting the virus. That guidance emphasizes avoiding exposure by minimizing close contact with others and washing your hands often.

But even if we’re careful, we might be exposed to the virus. Isn’t it helpful to know how to flush the organism from our system before it does damage?

Linda Lee, a public health expert who studies the spread of pathogens, cautions against putting faith in supposed protections or remedies for the disease.

“I can tell you that the CDC has discussed many of these things — the hot liquids, the cold foods and all that — and quite frankly, the CDC has said these are not going to do anything for COVID-19,” Lee said Monday afternoon.

Lee, chief medical affairs and science officer at UV Angel, which specializes in pathogen control from its headquarters in Grand Haven, Michigan, emphasized that the medical community’s understanding of COVID-19 is still limited, as the disease only emerged a few months ago. She said studies have found that virus droplets can remain active in the air for hours and can live on some surfaces for up to three days, making it especially dangerous.

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Thank you for posting this luv.

Banner Health stated most COVID-19 patients will simply need to manage their symptoms and self-isolate to prevent spreading the virus to others.

"The routine use of specific treatments, including medications described as 'anti-COVID-19,' is not recommended for non-hospitalized patients, including the anti-malarial drug chloroquine," the Banner Health statement read.

The organization said: "Medical toxicologists and emergency physicians are warning the public against the use of inappropriate medications and household products to prevent or treat COVID-19. In particular, Banner Health experts emphasize that chloroquine, a malaria medication, should not be ingested to treat or prevent this virus."

In a tweet on Friday, the Nigeria Centre for Disease Control and Prevention similarly urged the public not to take chloroquine for COVID-19 as it has not been approved after people were poisoned, according to officials in Lagos.


https://www.newsweek.com/health-officials-warn-against-self-medicating-chloroquine-coronavirus-after-man-dies-taking-fish-1493874

The wife of the man that died said this:

The man's wife, who did not want to be named, told NBC News that when she heard Trump mention chloroquine as a potential COVID-19 drug, she recognised the name as a parasite treatment for her koi fish.

"I saw it sitting on the back shelf and thought, 'Hey, isn't that the stuff they're talking about on TV?'" she said, adding: "We were afraid of getting sick."

Around 20 minutes after taking the drug the couple felt "dizzy and hot," and she started vomiting.

"My husband started developing respiratory problems and wanted to hold my hand," she said.

The woman called 911, but "was having a hard time talking, falling down."

She urged others to "be careful and call your doctor," adding: "This is a heartache I'll never get over."


It sounds like she saw it, it had the same name as the antimalarial drug, and thought that had to be what they were talking about. She knew that due to their ages, they were at risk for serious complications from the virus, and thought they could take the "antimalarial" drug and not get it, not be at risk. Instead, she has to bury her husband. sad

Nigeria has also reported this as an issue.

I think there was a Fox News Host that was saying if you drink hot water, it washes the virus in your mouth into your stomach. There are all kinds of things out there, people are suggesting will help. But, make sure to not take anything or do anything without talking with your doctor(s) first.

I have a client who is on limited fluids per day. I think the doctor has him limited to 32 ozs of fluids per day. He had heard the Fox Host mention the water and ... he's in the hospital right now. Too much fluid build up in his system, taxing his heart.

Just be careful everyone.


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If somebody is stupid enough to consume fish tank cleaner, it doesn't surprise me that they're dumb enough to blame Trump. I doubt Mensa was knocking on this couple's door.

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2elijah said:

Glad you posted this. Yesterday I read about 3 Nigerians who overdosed on that. Last week there was a physician who said that the antimalarial drug that was used during the Ebola crisis, had long term effects. He said that patients who take it, that years after taken, could develop cardiac issues, and not even realize it was that drug that would be the cause of it. This was before those 2 drugs was mentioned in the media. Even Dr Fauci said more testing of it has to be done. It seems many will be desperate and try to get hold of it. I wish they would hold back in the media, on naming any drug that may be a possibility of curing this virus, until the drugs have been fully tested, and considered safe.


Agreed, but some people take everything Trump says as truth. neutral

"...they learned of chloroquine's connection to coronavirus during a President Donald Trump news conference, which "was on a lot actually."

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DiminutiveRocker said:



2elijah said:


Glad you posted this. Yesterday I read about 3 Nigerians who overdosed on that. Last week there was a physician who said that the antimalarial drug that was used during the Ebola crisis, had long term effects. He said that patients who take it, that years after taken, could develop cardiac issues, and not even realize it was that drug that would be the cause of it. This was before those 2 drugs was mentioned in the media. Even Dr Fauci said more testing of it has to be done. It seems many will be desperate and try to get hold of it. I wish they would hold back in the media, on naming any drug that may be a possibility of curing this virus, until the drugs have been fully tested, and considered safe.


Agreed, but some people take everything Trump says as truth. neutral

"...they learned of chloroquine's connection to coronavirus during a President Donald Trump news conference, which "was on a lot actually."


Anyone taking medical info from trump has to be out of their mind. He has absolutely no education in the medical field.
[Edited 3/25/20 9:26am]
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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Agreed, but some people take everything Trump says as truth. neutral

"...they learned of chloroquine's connection to coronavirus during a President Donald Trump news conference, which "was on a lot actually."

Anyone taking medical info from trump has to be out of their mind. He has no absolutely education in the medical field.

Or in any other field other than not paying his fair share of taxes and how to lie everyday and still have people that think he's their savior of the great and powerful USA!

I heard him say at a news conference this drug could work and seconds later the other guys (Faush??) said it likely would not and could have adverse side effects.

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Empress said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:



Agreed, but some people take everything Trump says as truth. neutral

"...they learned of chloroquine's connection to coronavirus during a President Donald Trump news conference, which "was on a lot actually."



Anyone taking medical info from trump has to be out of their mind. He has no absolutely education in the medical field.

Or in any other field other than not paying his fair share of taxes and how to lie everyday and still have people that think he's their savior of the great and powerful USA!



I heard him say at a news conference this drug could work and seconds later the other guys (Faush??) said it likely would not and could have adverse side effects.


Exactly. I was proud of Dr. Fauci for correcting trump. I had heard the week prior a physician stating, that antimalarial drug used for Ebola could have long term effects, like cardiac issues, in some patients, who may end up with cardiac issues later in their life, and may never know that drug was the cause of it. That’s why I was shocked when trump made that comment about those combinated drugs, as though they have been fully tested and approved, and effective against the coronavirus. He should just let Dr. Fauci and others in the medical field, do the explaining about drugs in the process of being tested, but not name the drugs being tested tight now, until proven effective as an actual cure. Unfortunately, there are some folks who will not use common sense, and will take false/untested info about possible drugs in the testing stages, and will try to find a way to get it.
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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Agreed, but some people take everything Trump says as truth. neutral

"...they learned of chloroquine's connection to coronavirus during a President Donald Trump news conference, which "was on a lot actually."

Anyone taking medical info from trump has to be out of their mind. He has absolutely no education in the medical field. [Edited 3/25/20 9:26am]

Or in pretty much of anything. He only got into college because he came from money. Listen to him speak- he's barely literate, and often incoherent

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jjhunsecker said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:



Agreed, but some people take everything Trump says as truth. neutral

"...they learned of chloroquine's connection to coronavirus during a President Donald Trump news conference, which "was on a lot actually."



Anyone taking medical info from trump has to be out of their mind. He has absolutely no education in the medical field. [Edited 3/25/20 9:26am]


Or in pretty much of anything. He only got into college because he came from money. Listen to him speak- he's barely literate, and often incoherent


True, he’s just not handling things right, and has to be foolish trying to lift the social distance in the U.S. by Easter, despite the medical professionals advice, that that may be too early. It’s bad enough he took his time to take it seriously, and had the nerve to assume it was a hoax in the first place.
[Edited 3/25/20 13:37pm]
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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:

Or in pretty much of anything. He only got into college because he came from money. Listen to him speak- he's barely literate, and often incoherent

True, he’s just not handling things right, and has to be foolish trying to lift the social distance in the U.S. by Easter, despite the medical professionals advice, that that may be too early. It’s bad enough he took his time to take it seriously, and had the nerve to assume it was a hoax in the first place. [Edited 3/25/20 13:37pm]

Here's something intersting:

Do people who survive the infection become immune to the coronavirus?

The answer: a qualified yes, according to virologists, with some significant unknowns.



Our bodies naturally make antibodies to infections with virtually all viruses, but how long they last after exposure to Covid-19 is an open question. And it’s an important one. People who are immune can venture out of their houses, and a growing immunity in the community is how the virus ends.




^ that is not gonna happen by Easter.

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DiminutiveRocker said:

Here's something intersting:

Do people who survive the infection become immune to the coronavirus?

The answer: a qualified yes, according to virologists, with some significant unknowns.



Our bodies naturally make antibodies to infections with virtually all viruses, but how long they last after exposure to Covid-19 is an open question. And it’s an important one. People who are immune can venture out of their houses, and a growing immunity in the community is how the virus ends.


Bullpoo.

It's not known yet if you can catch it more than once, a zillion sources have made that perfectly clear.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24532754-600-can-you-catch-the-coronavirus-twice-we-dont-know-yet/

https://www.boston25news.com/news/trending/coronavirus-can-you-get-covid-19-more-than-once-jury-is-out-doctor-says/ECPR6RF2RJHONOX36DSJM2A4XU/

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DiminutiveRocker said:



2elijah said:


jjhunsecker said:



Or in pretty much of anything. He only got into college because he came from money. Listen to him speak- he's barely literate, and often incoherent



True, he’s just not handling things right, and has to be foolish trying to lift the social distance in the U.S. by Easter, despite the medical professionals advice, that that may be too early. It’s bad enough he took his time to take it seriously, and had the nerve to assume it was a hoax in the first place. [Edited 3/25/20 13:37pm]


Here's something intersting:





Do people who survive the infection become immune to the coronavirus?






The answer: a qualified yes, according to virologists, with some significant unknowns.








Our bodies naturally make antibodies to infections with virtually all viruses, but how long they last after exposure to Covid-19 is an open question. And it’s an important one. People who are immune can venture out of their houses, and a growing immunity in the community is how the virus ends.




^ that is not gonna happen by Easter.




Thanks for posting. The way NY is going, there is no way it’s safe to lessen the social distancing by Easter. Many of our hospitals and private physicians’ offices, still don’t have enough PPE, and more folks are testing positive. The number of deaths from the coronavirus is rising in NY. I hope that pathetic excuse for a president doesn’t succeed in allowing social distancing to discontinue by Easter. We’re just not ready for that.
[Edited 3/25/20 17:26pm]
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2elijah said:

Empress said:

Or in any other field other than not paying his fair share of taxes and how to lie everyday and still have people that think he's their savior of the great and powerful USA!

I heard him say at a news conference this drug could work and seconds later the other guys (Faush??) said it likely would not and could have adverse side effects.


Exactly. I was proud of Dr. Fauci for correcting trump. I had heard the week prior a physician stating, that antimalarial drug used for Ebola could have long term effects, like cardiac issues, in some patients, who may end up with cardiac issues later in their life, and may never know that drug was the cause of it. That’s why I was shocked when trump made that comment about those combinated drugs, as though they have been fully tested and approved, and effective against the coronavirus. He should just let Dr. Fauci and others in the medical field, do the explaining about drugs in the process of being tested, but not name the drugs being tested tight now, until proven effective as an actual cure. Unfortunately, there are some folks who will not use common sense, and will take false/untested info about possible drugs in the testing stages, and will try to find a way to get it.

They had a segment on Fauci on NPR today. He is 79 and has served for 6 administrations. He first came to prominence during the Reagan admin with early info and action on the AIDS virus. Highly respected by Dems and Repubs alike.

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Reply #18 posted 03/25/20 7:02pm

poppys

2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Here's something intersting:

Do people who survive the infection become immune to the coronavirus?

The answer: a qualified yes, according to virologists, with some significant unknowns.



Our bodies naturally make antibodies to infections with virtually all viruses, but how long they last after exposure to Covid-19 is an open question. And it’s an important one. People who are immune can venture out of their houses, and a growing immunity in the community is how the virus ends.




^ that is not gonna happen by Easter.

Thanks for posting. The way NY is going, there is no way it’s safe to lessen the social distancing by Easter. Many of our hospitals and private physicians’ offices, still don’t have enough PPE, and more folks are testing positive. The number of deaths from the coronavirus is rising in NY. I hope that pathetic excuse for a president doesn’t succeed in allowing social distancing to discontinue by Easter. We’re just not ready for that. [Edited 3/25/20 17:26pm]


I have been a little worried about my NY org friends. Hope y'all are making out OK. New Orleans seems to be next in line. Didn't go to Mardi Gras this year, now I'm glad.

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We really need our Covid19 thread back, or be able to start a new one.

COME BACK RODEO COME BACK!
Ask him why he felt the need to delete his account, rather than just walk away and stop posting as countless others have done. Or he could have just stayed out of P&R.
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poppys said:



2elijah said:


Empress said:


Or in any other field other than not paying his fair share of taxes and how to lie everyday and still have people that think he's their savior of the great and powerful USA!



I heard him say at a news conference this drug could work and seconds later the other guys (Faush??) said it likely would not and could have adverse side effects.




Exactly. I was proud of Dr. Fauci for correcting trump. I had heard the week prior a physician stating, that antimalarial drug used for Ebola could have long term effects, like cardiac issues, in some patients, who may end up with cardiac issues later in their life, and may never know that drug was the cause of it. That’s why I was shocked when trump made that comment about those combinated drugs, as though they have been fully tested and approved, and effective against the coronavirus. He should just let Dr. Fauci and others in the medical field, do the explaining about drugs in the process of being tested, but not name the drugs being tested tight now, until proven effective as an actual cure. Unfortunately, there are some folks who will not use common sense, and will take false/untested info about possible drugs in the testing stages, and will try to find a way to get it.



They had a segment on Fauci on NPR today. He is 79 and has served for 6 administrations. He first came to prominence during the Reagan admin with early info and action on the AIDS virus. Highly respected by Dems and Repubs alike.



Wow. I didn’t know he was so old. He looks sharp as a whip.
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PennyPurple said:

We really need our Covid19 thread back, or be able to start a new one.

100% - We even had other Orgers venturing into P&R and people returning after years away. We need a thread up.

Be kind. If you can't be kind - say nothing.
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poppys said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:



Here's something intersting:





Do people who survive the infection become immune to the coronavirus?






The answer: a qualified yes, according to virologists, with some significant unknowns.








Our bodies naturally make antibodies to infections with virtually all viruses, but how long they last after exposure to Covid-19 is an open question. And it’s an important one. People who are immune can venture out of their houses, and a growing immunity in the community is how the virus ends.




^ that is not gonna happen by Easter.




Thanks for posting. The way NY is going, there is no way it’s safe to lessen the social distancing by Easter. Many of our hospitals and private physicians’ offices, still don’t have enough PPE, and more folks are testing positive. The number of deaths from the coronavirus is rising in NY. I hope that pathetic excuse for a president doesn’t succeed in allowing social distancing to discontinue by Easter. We’re just not ready for that. [Edited 3/25/20 17:26pm]


I have been a little worried about my NY org friends. Hope y'all are making out OK. New Orleans seems to be next in line. Didn't go to Mardi Gras this year, now I'm glad.



Yes it’s really scary. A hospital in Queens, NY lost 13 people yesterday. Matter of fact NYC lost its highest number of people from the coronavirus yesterday. Everyone is taking precautions. You stay safe as well Poppy. hug
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poppys said:



2elijah said:


Empress said:


Or in any other field other than not paying his fair share of taxes and how to lie everyday and still have people that think he's their savior of the great and powerful USA!



I heard him say at a news conference this drug could work and seconds later the other guys (Faush??) said it likely would not and could have adverse side effects.




Exactly. I was proud of Dr. Fauci for correcting trump. I had heard the week prior a physician stating, that antimalarial drug used for Ebola could have long term effects, like cardiac issues, in some patients, who may end up with cardiac issues later in their life, and may never know that drug was the cause of it. That’s why I was shocked when trump made that comment about those combinated drugs, as though they have been fully tested and approved, and effective against the coronavirus. He should just let Dr. Fauci and others in the medical field, do the explaining about drugs in the process of being tested, but not name the drugs being tested tight now, until proven effective as an actual cure. Unfortunately, there are some folks who will not use common sense, and will take false/untested info about possible drugs in the testing stages, and will try to find a way to get it.



They had a segment on Fauci on NPR today. He is 79 and has served for 6 administrations. He first came to prominence during the Reagan admin with early info and action on the AIDS virus. Highly respected by Dems and Repubs alike.


I respect how he is being truthful about the information on the Coronavirus to the public. He certainly has my respect.
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Or in pretty much of anything. He only got into college because he came from money. Listen to him speak- he's barely literate, and often incoherent



True, he’s just not handling things right, and has to be foolish trying to lift the social distance in the U.S. by Easter, despite the medical professionals advice, that that may be too early. It’s bad enough he took his time to take it seriously, and had the nerve to assume it was a hoax in the first place. [Edited 3/25/20 13:37pm]


Here's something intersting:





Do people who survive the infection become immune to the coronavirus?






The answer: a qualified yes, according to virologists, with some significant unknowns.








Our bodies naturally make antibodies to infections with virtually all viruses, but how long they last after exposure to Covid-19 is an open question. And it’s an important one. People who are immune can venture out of their houses, and a growing immunity in the community is how the virus ends.




^ that is not gonna happen by Easter.





Dimi be safe out there. I have friends who are nurses and worried about their exposure to this virus working with patients. So sad that some nurses are now using trash bags to protect themselves, because of lack of PPEs.

I’m so disgusted with this president. NYC is his original hometown and he’s pretty much giving this city the finger. He made a stupid comment (paraphrasing) that he thinks the media just want the social distancing to continue longer so he could fail at being re-elected.
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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Here's something intersting:

Do people who survive the infection become immune to the coronavirus?

The answer: a qualified yes, according to virologists, with some significant unknowns.



Our bodies naturally make antibodies to infections with virtually all viruses, but how long they last after exposure to Covid-19 is an open question. And it’s an important one. People who are immune can venture out of their houses, and a growing immunity in the community is how the virus ends.




^ that is not gonna happen by Easter.


Dimi be safe out there. I have friends who are nurses and worried about their exposure to this virus working with patients. So sad that some nurses are now using trash bags to protect themselves, because of lack of PPEs. I’m so disgusted with this president. NYC is his original hometown and he’s pretty much giving this city the finger. He made a stupid comment (paraphrasing) that he thinks the media just want the social distancing to continue longer so he could fail at being re-elected.


The trash bag photos are heartbreaking. Reported today that at least one RN has died of CV. Trump won't mobilize nationally even though he declares he's running a war. What a damn liar. I'm in Trump's Mississippi right now. The Gov here refuses to close anything, saying they are not China. One city's Mayor and City Council voted for shut down. Yesterday the Gov overrode it and ordered them to open back up. Fox News is applauding him.

The Republican governor asked God to protect Mississippians and to give President Trump and Vice President Pence wisdom to lead us through the Chinese virus crisis.

“Thank you for looking over us,” the governor prayed extemporaneously. “Thank you for giving our leaders wisdom. Dear Heavenly Father please be with President Trump, Vice President Pence, the leadership team in Washington as they deal with this once-in-a-lifetime pandemic across the globe.”


Trump can actually get people to think dying is no big deal. It's astounding.

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I have been a little worried about my NY org friends. Hope y'all are making out OK. New Orleans seems to be next in line. Didn't go to Mardi Gras this year, now I'm glad.


Yes it’s really scary. A hospital in Queens, NY lost 13 people yesterday. Matter of fact NYC lost its highest number of people from the coronavirus yesterday. Everyone is taking precautions. You stay safe as well Poppy. hug


Thank you 2elijah! hug and (virtual) grouphug

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Nursing manager at Mount Sinai West hospital in NYC - where staff were forced to wear TRASH BAGS as protective equipment - dies of coronavirus at age 48

  • Kious Kelly, 48, died at Mount Sinai West in Manhattan on Tuesday night
  • He was also an assistant nursing manager at the hospital prior to his death
  • Photos have circulated on Facebook showing nurses there wearing trash bags
  • Extreme shortage of personal protective equipment has hit hospitals hard

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2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:



Here's something intersting:





Do people who survive the infection become immune to the coronavirus?






The answer: a qualified yes, according to virologists, with some significant unknowns.








Our bodies naturally make antibodies to infections with virtually all viruses, but how long they last after exposure to Covid-19 is an open question. And it’s an important one. People who are immune can venture out of their houses, and a growing immunity in the community is how the virus ends.




^ that is not gonna happen by Easter.





Dimi be safe out there. I have friends who are nurses and worried about their exposure to this virus working with patients. So sad that some nurses are now using trash bags to protect themselves, because of lack of PPEs. I’m so disgusted with this president. NYC is his original hometown and he’s pretty much giving this city the finger. He made a stupid comment (paraphrasing) that he thinks the media just want the social distancing to continue longer so he could fail at being re-elected.



The trash bag photos are heartbreaking. Reported today that at least one RN has died of CV. Trump won't mobilize nationally even though he declares he's running a war. What a damn liar. I'm in Trump's Mississippi right now. The Gov here refuses to close anything, saying they are not China. One city's Mayor and City Council voted for shut down. Yesterday the Gov overrode it and ordered them to open back up. Fox News is applauding him.


The Republican governor asked God to protect Mississippians and to give President Trump and Vice President Pence wisdom to lead us through the Chinese virus crisis.



“Thank you for looking over us,” the governor prayed extemporaneously. “Thank you for giving our leaders wisdom. Dear Heavenly Father please be with President Trump, Vice President Pence, the leadership team in Washington as they deal with this once-in-a-lifetime pandemic across the globe.”



Trump can actually get people to think dying is no big deal. It's astounding.


He will be responsible for the increase in the spread, because he’s allowing residents there to gather, while many may have the virus and not know it, and could spread it to others. I hope voters there remember this the next time they vote. If they have t learned anything from NY, then what will it take? Ridiculous.
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