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Reply #150 posted 09/26/17 8:11am

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purplerabbithole said:

laurarichardson said:

Frank Sinatra said out of his own mouth the mobsters were his friends. They got him jobs when his carreer was not going well. The mob owned nightclubs, record lables, publishing companies, booking agencies, and the distribution system in the music industry.

There was a time in the music industry that you had to associate with the mob. It does not mean Frank was a member but I believe he was an associate and I am sure he had a Godfather.

I know FS was cozy with the mob . Hell, the mob had an interest in his cal-Neva lodge. I have read a lot about this man (minus that horrible Kitty Kelly book in which she had no inside sources and did not differentiate between a good source and the rumor mill), That being said, there are OTT rumors that imply a power over the mob he simply did not have. Also, FS admitted being actually afraid of these dudes ocassionally and he even admitted to a writer that he ocassionally went along with his mob image because he knew that to protest it would not help. He said if you got the name, you might as well play the game. Sinatra released about 5000 songs and appeared in 60 films as well as live work, business endeavors, his children and his romantic endeavors. He, like Prince, simply did not have the time to be guilty of every action attributed to him. The mob having interests in the night club scene and the entertainment industry was about making money. His comeback would not have been just the result of the mob favoritism--a has-been (even if he is Italian) is not good for profits.

Anyone who knows anything would know that Frank had no power in the mob. He was an employee and you bet he was scared of them. He was talented and smart but he had the mob behind him all the way as did many entertainers back then. There would have been nothing he could have said or done about the mob controlling his carreer.

There involvement helped with profits and did not hurt profits because no one was going to say or do anything to stop the mob back then it was drugs that brought the mob down no one in law enforcement cares about the entertaiment business

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Reply #151 posted 09/26/17 8:12am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

Frank Sinatra said out of his own mouth the mobsters were his friends. They got him jobs when his carreer was not going well. The mob owned nightclubs, record lables, publishing companies, booking agencies, and the distribution system in the music industry.

There was a time in the music industry that you had to associate with the mob. It does not mean Frank was a member but I believe he was an associate and I am sure he had a Godfather.

I know this is off topic on the NPS thread but in the Godfather the singer Johnny Fontane was based upon Frank.

The similarities were so close that when someone introduced the author Mario Puzo to Sinatra, he started shouting at Puzo, called him a pimp, and told Puzo if he hadnt been so much older he would beat the crap out of him.

Of course he got upset. Mario was writing about stuff he knew from growing up around the Columbo family.

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Reply #152 posted 09/26/17 8:13am

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WHO KNEW THAT PRINCE.ORG. WAS IN DESPERATE NEED OF A FRANK SINATRA THREAD?!? eek biggrin lol

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Reply #153 posted 09/26/17 8:15am

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

WHO KNEW THAT PRINCE.ORG. WAS IN DESPERATE NEED OF A FRANK SINATRA THREAD?!? eek biggrin lol

Actually we are discussing myths and how they build up around icons.

Was Frank a bad ass mobster or just an employee of the mob?

Did Prince really sleep with all these crazy women coming out of the woodwork?

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Reply #154 posted 09/26/17 8:35am

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

WHO KNEW THAT PRINCE.ORG. WAS IN DESPERATE NEED OF A FRANK SINATRA THREAD?!? eek biggrin lol

Especially on the New Power Soul, thread. biggrin

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Reply #155 posted 09/26/17 9:08am

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

WHO KNEW THAT PRINCE.ORG. WAS IN DESPERATE NEED OF A FRANK SINATRA THREAD?!? eek biggrin lol


Sinatra threads are always entertaining
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Reply #156 posted 09/26/17 9:12am

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purplerabbithole said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

WHO KNEW THAT PRINCE.ORG. WAS IN DESPERATE NEED OF A FRANK SINATRA THREAD?!? eek biggrin lol

Sinatra threads are always entertaining

Of course they are entertaining.

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Reply #157 posted 09/26/17 9:14am

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laurarichardson said:



Bodhitheblackdog said:


WHO KNEW THAT PRINCE.ORG. WAS IN DESPERATE NEED OF A FRANK SINATRA THREAD?!? eek biggrin lol



Actually we are discussing myths and how they build up around icons.



Was Frank a bad ass mobster or just an employee of the mob?



Did Prince really sleep with all these crazy women coming out of the woodwork?



Here we are in agreement. Where we disagree is where the lines between mythology and reality are in terms of the lives of these icons. I tend to think there is a bit more mythology than you do when it comes to some of the aspects of their public images.
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Reply #158 posted 09/26/17 9:18pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

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Amen to that.
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Reply #159 posted 09/26/17 11:27pm

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morningsong said:

purplethunder3121 said:

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Amen to that.


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Reply #160 posted 09/27/17 2:43am

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Anu comment from the other members of NPS?

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Reply #161 posted 09/27/17 4:08am

rogifan

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Anu comment from the other members of NPS?


Funkenberry said Marcus Anderson told him he’s excited about the project. I haven’t seem any comment from Adrian Crutchfield. Adrian was one of the last associates to be workjng with Prince.
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Reply #162 posted 09/28/17 9:21pm

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Which NPG band did Marva sing with?

most notably, New Power Soul era. She's prominent in the "Come On" video

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Reply #163 posted 10/04/17 12:33pm

positivity88

I read Tyka is planning a Prince hologram. Maybe this band could open for him.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/prince-return-stage-hologram-music-legends-sister-says/

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Reply #164 posted 10/05/17 4:53pm

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positivity88 said:

I read Tyka is planning a Prince hologram. Maybe this band could open for him.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/prince-return-stage-hologram-music-legends-sister-says/

the end of the world is near...

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Reply #165 posted 10/09/17 3:15pm

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luvsexy4all said:



positivity88 said:


I read Tyka is planning a Prince hologram. Maybe this band could open for him.



https://inews.co.uk/essentials/prince-return-stage-hologram-music-legends-sister-says/





the end of the world is near...


Yep. confused No shame, is there?
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Reply #166 posted 11/12/17 2:10pm

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SoulAlive said:

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Oh goodness no. They'll never be able to replace Prince.
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