independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Tue 16th Oct 2018 9:08am
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Associated artists & people > Tyka says Prince would have been fine with Timberlake's tribute...
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 4 1234>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 02/06/18 1:07pm

paisleylove

Tyka says Prince would have been fine with Timberlake's tribute...

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/super-bowl/8098387/princes-sister-said-he-wouldnt-have-been-mad-at-justin-timberlakes

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 02/06/18 4:09pm

donnyenglish

We don't have to wonder what Tyka, me, you or anyone else thinks about what Prince would have thought about the performance. Prince spoke on this exact topic himself and said that he did not want to perform with any other artists after he passed. He called it demonic. Justin performed I Would Die 4 U with Prince. There is really nothing to extrapolate. With that said, I think everyone is being hard on Justin. It is not like he meant to do harm to Prince or his fans. His intentions were probably positive, but Prince and his fans have a different standard.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 02/06/18 5:11pm

TrivialPursuit

donnyenglish said:

We don't have to wonder what Tyka, me, you or anyone else thinks about what Prince would have thought about the performance. Prince spoke on this exact topic himself and said that he did not want to perform with any other artists after he passed. He called it demonic. Justin performed I Would Die 4 U with Prince. There is really nothing to extrapolate. With that said, I think everyone is being hard on Justin. It is not like he meant to do harm to Prince or his fans. His intentions were probably positive, but Prince and his fans have a different standard.


1) you took Prince's comment way out of the spirit of the conversation it was mentioned in;

2) you don't speak for all fans, not by a long shot. It's the problem with most Prince fans - they think they know Prince the best and everyone else is a devil if they don't agree.

This experience will cover courtship, sex, commitment, fetishes, loneliness, vindication, love, and hate.
http://bit.ly/1D3FG2U
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 02/06/18 9:33pm

undergroundFUN
K

avatar

TrivialPursuit said:



donnyenglish said:


We don't have to wonder what Tyka, me, you or anyone else thinks about what Prince would have thought about the performance. Prince spoke on this exact topic himself and said that he did not want to perform with any other artists after he passed. He called it demonic. Justin performed I Would Die 4 U with Prince. There is really nothing to extrapolate. With that said, I think everyone is being hard on Justin. It is not like he meant to do harm to Prince or his fans. His intentions were probably positive, but Prince and his fans have a different standard.




1) you took Prince's comment way out of the spirit of the conversation it was mentioned in;


2) you don't speak for all fans, not by a long shot. It's the problem with most Prince fans - they think they know Prince the best and everyone else is a devil if they don't agree.



100% agree with you and I watched Prince sit and watch his own tributes at award shows where others sang his songs in tribute to him and with footage of him in the background.
May U Live 2 See The Dawn....Welcome 2 The Dawn!
1983 year of discovery
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 02/07/18 6:04am

laurarichardso
n

TrivialPursuit said:

donnyenglish said:

We don't have to wonder what Tyka, me, you or anyone else thinks about what Prince would have thought about the performance. Prince spoke on this exact topic himself and said that he did not want to perform with any other artists after he passed. He called it demonic. Justin performed I Would Die 4 U with Prince. There is really nothing to extrapolate. With that said, I think everyone is being hard on Justin. It is not like he meant to do harm to Prince or his fans. His intentions were probably positive, but Prince and his fans have a different standard.


1) you took Prince's comment way out of the spirit of the conversation it was mentioned in;

2) you don't speak for all fans, not by a long shot. It's the problem with most Prince fans - they think they know Prince the best and everyone else is a devil if they don't agree.

No, he said if he was meant to jam with Ellington he would have been born back then. I think Prince's comments are crystal clear and once again the sibs have no say on any transaction below 2 million.

Tyka has no choice but to say she is okay with it. We will not know what their real thoughts are until the probate ends.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 02/07/18 6:44am

bondno9

avatar

I just want to know where was the RESPECT when Prince was ALIVE! People dissed him left and right ... and now they want to do TRIBUTES???? Where was the LOVE when he could hear and see it??? NO WHERE to be found ... and now that he's dead people want to atone themselves for the crappy way they treated him ... he can't hear or see the tributes ... did anyone tell him THANK YOU when he was alive ... NOPE! But but he would be "fine" ... No wonder he didn't like posthumous tributes because he knew they were FAKE

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 02/07/18 7:08am

Vashtix

clapping clapping clapping

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 02/07/18 7:14am

Vashtix

undergroundFUNK said:

TrivialPursuit said:


1) you took Prince's comment way out of the spirit of the conversation it was mentioned in;

2) you don't speak for all fans, not by a long shot. It's the problem with most Prince fans - they think they know Prince the best and everyone else is a devil if they don't agree.

100% agree with you and I watched Prince sit and watch his own tributes at award shows where others sang his songs in tribute to him and with footage of him in the background.

That is it- he was not dead- he was speaking of when he would no longer be on earth.

.

The argument boggles my mind. It is very simple but people feel the need to justify doing something Prince said while alive he was not in favor of. The duet is done and the only saving grace is AS PROVIDENCE WOULD HAVE IT THE AUDIO WAS POOR . Prince has transitioned,is a memory and as it stands now a commodity to be used for coins , notoriety and hype for those who choose to partake and indulge in such things.

[Edited 2/7/18 19:17pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 02/07/18 7:44am

laurarichardso
n

undergroundFUNK said:

TrivialPursuit said:


1) you took Prince's comment way out of the spirit of the conversation it was mentioned in;

2) you don't speak for all fans, not by a long shot. It's the problem with most Prince fans - they think they know Prince the best and everyone else is a devil if they don't agree.

100% agree with you and I watched Prince sit and watch his own tributes at award shows where others sang his songs in tribute to him and with footage of him in the background.

I guess you did notice the cringe of his face on some of those performances?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 02/07/18 7:50am

laurarichardso
n

bondno9 said:

I just want to know where was the RESPECT when Prince was ALIVE! People dissed him left and right ... and now they want to do TRIBUTES???? Where was the LOVE when he could hear and see it??? NO WHERE to be found ... and now that he's dead people want to atone themselves for the crappy way they treated him ... he can't hear or see the tributes ... did anyone tell him THANK YOU when he was alive ... NOPE! But but he would be "fine" ... No wonder he didn't like posthumous tributes because he knew they were FAKE

He got respect from those who know something about music. There were people who dissed him and I am sure they are still dissing him but for some reason want to cash in at the same time. eek

No worries Karma is coming for those people. Fake people fall on their swords all the time and I think Prince knew that as he never commented on the foolishness.

Some of the associates literally have nothing else going on but riding the purple gravey train and that speaks volumes about them and their so-called carreer.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 02/07/18 11:05am

Goddess4Real

avatar

bondno9 said:

I just want to know where was the RESPECT when Prince was ALIVE! People dissed him left and right ... and now they want to do TRIBUTES???? Where was the LOVE when he could hear and see it??? NO WHERE to be found ... and now that he's dead people want to atone themselves for the crappy way they treated him ... he can't hear or see the tributes ... did anyone tell him THANK YOU when he was alive ... NOPE! But but he would be "fine" ... No wonder he didn't like posthumous tributes because he knew they were FAKE




yeahthat
Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 02/07/18 11:37am

Zannaloaf

laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said:


1) you took Prince's comment way out of the spirit of the conversation it was mentioned in;

2) you don't speak for all fans, not by a long shot. It's the problem with most Prince fans - they think they know Prince the best and everyone else is a devil if they don't agree.

No, he said if he was meant to jam with Ellington he would have been born back then. I think Prince's comments are crystal clear and once again the sibs have no say on any transaction below 2 million.

Tyka has no choice but to say she is okay with it. We will not know what their real thoughts are until the probate ends.

Timberlake sang UNDER Princes vocals.
And Prince NEVER changed his mind. lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 02/07/18 12:15pm

OperatingTheta
n

avatar

And I guess Prince would've been 'fine' with his music on Youtube and Spotify too?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 02/07/18 12:19pm

morningsong

TrivialPursuit said:



donnyenglish said:


We don't have to wonder what Tyka, me, you or anyone else thinks about what Prince would have thought about the performance. Prince spoke on this exact topic himself and said that he did not want to perform with any other artists after he passed. He called it demonic. Justin performed I Would Die 4 U with Prince. There is really nothing to extrapolate. With that said, I think everyone is being hard on Justin. It is not like he meant to do harm to Prince or his fans. His intentions were probably positive, but Prince and his fans have a different standard.




1) you took Prince's comment way out of the spirit of the conversation it was mentioned in;


2) you don't speak for all fans, not by a long shot. It's the problem with most Prince fans - they think they know Prince the best and everyone else is a devil if they don't agree.




Yep. Folks sometimes need to take a step or 2 back sometimes this stuff will suck ones mind in. Too many living people who need this kind of energy spent on them.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 02/07/18 12:24pm

laurarichardso
n

Zannaloaf said:

laurarichardson said:

No, he said if he was meant to jam with Ellington he would have been born back then. I think Prince's comments are crystal clear and once again the sibs have no say on any transaction below 2 million.

Tyka has no choice but to say she is okay with it. We will not know what their real thoughts are until the probate ends.

Timberlake sang UNDER Princes vocals.
And Prince NEVER changed his mind. lol

I would not give a fuck if he sung around his vocals. Timberlake was on the stage and Prince was on the screen= performing/jamming together.

When you say something is fucking demonic does that really seem like a point of view that would change? According to other band members he said again in 2012.

To me it was just corny. The tributes all need to stop.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 02/07/18 12:35pm

ThatWhiteDude

OperatingThetan said:

And I guess Prince would've been 'fine' with his music on Youtube and Spotify too?

Hey it serves the fans own personal interests. lol
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 02/07/18 12:38pm

laurarichardso
n

ThatWhiteDude said:

OperatingThetan said:
And I guess Prince would've been 'fine' with his music on Youtube and Spotify too?
Hey it serves the fans own personal interests. lol

Because that is more important then what he wanted? Because that seem to be what is really going on.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 02/07/18 12:50pm

ThatWhiteDude

laurarichardson said:



ThatWhiteDude said:


OperatingThetan said:
And I guess Prince would've been 'fine' with his music on Youtube and Spotify too?

Hey it serves the fans own personal interests. lol

Because that is more important then what he wanted? Because that seem to be what is really going on.


Laura, I was being sarcastic
lol
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 02/07/18 12:51pm

EmmaMcG

laurarichardson said:



ThatWhiteDude said:


OperatingThetan said:
And I guess Prince would've been 'fine' with his music on Youtube and Spotify too?

Hey it serves the fans own personal interests. lol

Because that is more important then what he wanted? Because that seem to be what is really going on.



ThAn. Not thEn. And yes, it IS more important. To fans of his music it's more important, anyway. If Prince had left a will that stated that all vault material be destroyed would you be happy to see that music destroyed because "its what he wanted"? Because I sure wouldn't. I'd rather see his music released and freely available to all who want it.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 02/07/18 1:35pm

Vashtix

Zannaloaf said:

laurarichardson said:

No, he said if he was meant to jam with Ellington he would have been born back then. I think Prince's comments are crystal clear and once again the sibs have no say on any transaction below 2 million.

Tyka has no choice but to say she is okay with it. We will not know what their real thoughts are until the probate ends.

Timberlake sang UNDER Princes vocals.
And Prince NEVER changed his mind. lol

Timberlake singing under the vocals was an audio screw up thanks to Providence NOT JT. He wanted the duet but providence took over thankfully.

.

Moral of this story- do not mess with Prince.

.

http://www.tmz.com/2018/02/04/justin-timberlakes-super-bowl-lii-halftime-show-music-volume-audio/

.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/05/dog-s-t-sound-quality-dampens-justin-timberlakes-halftime-show/

.

http://ew.com/tv/2018/02/04/justin-timberlake-audio-super-bowl-show/

[Edited 2/7/18 13:45pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 02/07/18 2:12pm

Zannaloaf

Vashtix said:

Zannaloaf said:

Timberlake sang UNDER Princes vocals.
And Prince NEVER changed his mind. lol

Timberlake singing under the vocals was an audio screw up thanks to Providence NOT JT. He wanted the duet but providence took over thankfully.

.

Moral of this story- do not mess with Prince.

.

http://www.tmz.com/2018/02/04/justin-timberlakes-super-bowl-lii-halftime-show-music-volume-audio/

.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/05/dog-s-t-sound-quality-dampens-justin-timberlakes-halftime-show/

.

http://ew.com/tv/2018/02/04/justin-timberlake-audio-super-bowl-show/

[Edited 2/7/18 13:45pm]

That was only at the beginning. TMZ also was running the stupid hologram rumor.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 02/07/18 2:13pm

Zannaloaf

laurarichardson said:

Zannaloaf said:

Timberlake sang UNDER Princes vocals.
And Prince NEVER changed his mind. lol

I would not give a fuck if he sung around his vocals. Timberlake was on the stage and Prince was on the screen= performing/jamming together.

When you say something is fucking demonic does that really seem like a point of view that would change? According to other band members he said again in 2012.

To me it was just corny. The tributes all need to stop.

Or you can stop watching and griping about it. That's ALSO an option.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 02/07/18 2:31pm

Vashtix

Zannaloaf said:

Vashtix said:

Timberlake singing under the vocals was an audio screw up thanks to Providence NOT JT. He wanted the duet but providence took over thankfully.

.

Moral of this story- do not mess with Prince.

.

http://www.tmz.com/2018/02/04/justin-timberlakes-super-bowl-lii-halftime-show-music-volume-audio/

.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/05/dog-s-t-sound-quality-dampens-justin-timberlakes-halftime-show/

.

http://ew.com/tv/2018/02/04/justin-timberlake-audio-super-bowl-show/

[Edited 2/7/18 13:45pm]

That was only at the beginning. TMZ also was running the stupid hologram rumor.

There is more media listed besides TMZ. I listed NY Post, EW and I am going to post links to Washington Post, Forbes and Pitchfork. The fact is not about rumors anymore. The fact is JT was subjected to poor audio quality and lackluster performance- it was not well received by peeps and not just disgruntled Prince fans. If you take time to read the articles you will see it is a well rounded swell of voices who did not appreciate JT's performance. It is not about rumor it is about what went down.

.

Washington Post: This is how Justin Timberlake lost the Super Bowl:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/02/04/this-is-how-justin-timberlake-lost-the-super-bowl/?utm_term=.aa93db2545e9

.

Washingt on Post: The Super Bowl featured Prince and Martin Luther King. Is it what they would have wanted?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/02/05/the-super-bowl-featured-prince-and-martin-luther-king-is-this-what-they-would-have-wanted/?utm_term=.640b00a50ad3

.

Forbes: Justin Timberlake and Tom Brady Were The Super Bowl's biggest losers:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrolli/2018/02/05/justin-timberlake-tom-brady-super-bowl-losers/#27fe2cfa1fed

.

Pitchfork: Justin Timberlakes's Super Bowl Halftime Show: meh personified

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/justin-timberlakes-super-bowl-halftime-show-meh-personified/

.

You can say they are all media full of lies and rumor if you wish but there are more saying the same so TMZ may be not reputable but NOT everyone.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 02/07/18 2:42pm

disch

I thought the tribute was fine. I was underwhelmed by JT's performance as a whole, but I didn't see anything wrong with the tribute section.

-

I think some folks frustration with various tributes might stem from their frustration that Prince isn't alive to perform himself. The reality is, if we want there to be any awareness of Prince in pop culture, it's going to come mostly through recordings of him, video and audio. When Prince was alive, he had certain viewpoints about how his music should be presented and available (no YouTube, etc.) But he also had ways to keep himself at least somewhat in the public eye, with live concerts, appearances at award shows, etc. But those options involving Prince himself are now over, so I think that fans have to accept that there have to be new ways to reach audiences, including ways that didn't get his complete stamp of approval while he was alive and "out there" promoting his work himself.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 02/07/18 2:57pm

Vashtix

disch said:

I thought the tribute was fine. I was underwhelmed by JT's performance as a whole, but I didn't see anything wrong with the tribute section.

-

I think some folks frustration with various tributes might stem from their frustration that Prince isn't alive to perform himself. The reality is, if we want there to be any awareness of Prince in pop culture, it's going to come mostly through recordings of him, video and audio. When Prince was alive, he had certain viewpoints about how his music should be presented and available (no YouTube, etc.) But he also had ways to keep himself at least somewhat in the public eye, with live concerts, appearances at award shows, etc. But those options involving Prince himself are now over, so I think that fans have to accept that there have to be new ways to reach audiences, including ways that didn't get his complete stamp of approval while he was alive and "out there" promoting his work himself.

I agree with you about his music getting out but it is not so hard to do holograms or duets with him with holograms or images on sheets - same/same.

.

There is using his music in TV ,movies, shows, etc.; people can do covers of his songs too- there are many ways than doing a duet in a "tribute". I think most people realize his music has to be heard to go through the generations. People are not dumb. It is the use of Prince for others gain and the blatant hype at his expense.

.

If it had been someone other than Justin it might be different too.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 02/07/18 3:00pm

benni

bondno9 said:

I just want to know where was the RESPECT when Prince was ALIVE! People dissed him left and right ... and now they want to do TRIBUTES???? Where was the LOVE when he could hear and see it??? NO WHERE to be found ... and now that he's dead people want to atone themselves for the crappy way they treated him ... he can't hear or see the tributes ... did anyone tell him THANK YOU when he was alive ... NOPE! But but he would be "fine" ... No wonder he didn't like posthumous tributes because he knew they were FAKE


People thanked Prince a lot. Many, many artists have cited Prince as an influence on them and their music.

Tributes are pointless if someone is living. Prince had tight control over his music, about who could play it, what songs they could play. Prince would never allow people to use his music without his express permission.

As for other stars reactions to Prince when he was living, Prince knew he was a star's star. People looked up to him, got all fammy when they met him (even those considered superstars). There is an awards ceremony where Prince is giving out the award and the gentleman receiving the award bowed down to Prince, touched his forehead to Prince's hand, the way you would greet someone of royalty or even the Pope. Prince could walk on to stage at an award's ceremony and he would get a standing ovation. People (read stars) didn't react to Prince in the same way they did other stars.

But, I do agree, the tributes are overdone, especially coming from the protegees'. I adore quite a few of the protegees' but would rather hear them doing their own music, in the way that Andre' is doing his own music. A tribute once per year, where they perform Prince's music, is okay. It introduces new fans to Prince's music. But they need to perform their own music instead of relying solely on Prince.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 02/07/18 5:24pm

cloveringold85

avatar

paisleylove said:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/super-bowl/8098387/princes-sister-said-he-wouldnt-have-been-mad-at-justin-timberlakes

.

Of course she's going to say that. The family did not have any say in the half-time show or JTs tribute to Prince.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 02/07/18 5:29pm

cloveringold85

avatar

donnyenglish said:

We don't have to wonder what Tyka, me, you or anyone else thinks about what Prince would have thought about the performance. Prince spoke on this exact topic himself and said that he did not want to perform with any other artists after he passed. He called it demonic. Justin performed I Would Die 4 U with Prince. There is really nothing to extrapolate. With that said, I think everyone is being hard on Justin. It is not like he meant to do harm to Prince or his fans. His intentions were probably positive, but Prince and his fans have a different standard.

.

JT is taking a lot of criticism for his half-time show and tribute to Prince and I'm sure he knew it would be coming.

.

If you want to do a tribute to honor Prince, then honor his wishes, which were NO HOLOGRAMS or singing with a vocal track and his image up on stage. He thought it was demonic. Period!

.

No one has yet to come forward to confirm whether or not there was a hologram planned for JTs Prince tribute. They were trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

.

JTs tribute to Prince was so wrong and demonic. Prince would never do that to any artist. They mocked Prince's death up on stage for all to see. It was disgusting.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 02/07/18 5:31pm

cloveringold85

avatar

laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said:


1) you took Prince's comment way out of the spirit of the conversation it was mentioned in;

2) you don't speak for all fans, not by a long shot. It's the problem with most Prince fans - they think they know Prince the best and everyone else is a devil if they don't agree.

No, he said if he was meant to jam with Ellington he would have been born back then. I think Prince's comments are crystal clear and once again the sibs have no say on any transaction below 2 million.

Tyka has no choice but to say she is okay with it. We will not know what their real thoughts are until the probate ends.

.

Exactly!! yeahthat

.

UMG has the rights to Prince's image, and his estate/family has no say in the matter.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 02/07/18 5:33pm

cloveringold85

avatar

Vashtix said:

undergroundFUNK said:

TrivialPursuit said: 100% agree with you and I watched Prince sit and watch his own tributes at award shows where others sang his songs in tribute to him and with footage of him in the background.

That is it- he was not dead- he was speaking of when he would no longer be on earth.

.

The argument boggles my mind. It is very simple but people feel the need to justify doing something Prince said while alive he was not in favor of. The duet is done and the only saving grace is AS PRIVIDENCE WOULD HAVE IT THE AUDIO WAS POOR . Prince has transitioned, memory and as it stands now a commodity to be used for coins , notoriety and hype for those who choose to partake and indulge in such things.

.

Yes. nod

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 4 1234>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Associated artists & people > Tyka says Prince would have been fine with Timberlake's tribute...