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Good Question (the Paisley Park group)

They had an album released on Paisley Park. Does anyone know how or why they got signed? It was a mediocre album, but the lead (maybe only) single called "Got A New Love" was ok though. Anyone have any info on them?

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Reply #1 posted 05/23/18 1:11pm

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Reply #2 posted 05/23/18 1:30pm

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80s dance/pop flashback: "Got A New Love" by Good Question (1988)

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Reply #3 posted 05/23/18 1:32pm

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Good Question - Wikipedia

Good Question was an R&B and dance music vocal duo from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, that was composed of brothers Sean and Marc Douglas. Their only chart hit came in 1988, when they hit number one on the Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart with "Got a New Love".[1] The song also reached the R&B and pop charts in the U.S., where it peaked at numbers 51 and 86, respectively.[2] Another single, "Listen to Your Heart", and its self-titled album were released the same year on Prince's record label Paisley Park Records.[3]

They re-grouped and currently perform in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

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Reply #4 posted 05/23/18 1:34pm

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Back in the 80s,I bought every album that was released on Paisley Park Records eek smile yeah,I was a fanatic (lol).I have this album on vinyl,but from what I remember,it wasn't very good.Just a bunch of faceless dance/pop tunes that all sound similiar.

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Reply #5 posted 05/23/18 1:52pm

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I could be wrong,but I think that it was Steve Fargnoli (one of Prince's managers) who brought these guys to Paisley Park Records.It's interesting that their album has no Prince involvement at all.Prince was contributing at least one track to the artists on the label,during that period.

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Reply #6 posted 05/24/18 10:21am

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benjaminira said:

They had an album released on Paisley Park. Does anyone know how or why they got signed? It was a mediocre album, but the lead (maybe only) single called "Got A New Love" was ok though. Anyone have any info on them?

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Reply #7 posted 05/24/18 10:27am

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SoulAlive said:

I could be wrong,but I think that it was Steve Fargnoli (one of Prince's managers) who brought these guys to Paisley Park Records.It's interesting that their album has no Prince involvement at all.Prince was contributing at least one track to the artists on the label,during that period.

That's how the story goes, yeah. I think I even remember reading once that Prince wasn't really consulted about it but IDK how much of it is true.

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They were a New Edition/NKOTB boys band, someone at Paisley must have assumed the label needed a hit and that it would be easy to sell to teenagers, and hell given the crap that scored hits sometimes it could indeed have been, but I don't think WB promoted it a lot.

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It was indeed the first PP release not to contain any Prince involvement whatsoever but there were a few others, beginning the following year with Tony LeMans and The Cinderella Theory, so IDK if it's revealing of anything.

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The Esate now own the masters for that one. Interestingly, in the mid-2000's Prince filed a copyright registration for the name Good Question (alongside Mazarati and a few others). I'm not sure why: I can't imagine he planned a super deluxe remaster of it lol

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Reply #8 posted 05/27/18 2:34am

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The good question album I never heard any Prince involvement. With regards to Tony LeMans I don't know. There were some Prince synthesizers (from Lovesexy) being used on Higher Than High (much like on If I Could Get Your Attention by Taja Sevelle which turned out to be a Prince track in the end).

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Also Tony was supposed to be one of the Coco Boys and he was part of Romeo Blue (the old Lenny Kravits band), iirc. To top it off, he's a nephew of Sly Stone (Sly's song The Same Thing is also used on Higher Than High), so I think that would've been interesting enough to Prince to at least have a talk or two with him.

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Of course, pretty much everything else about the record (including production by the wonderful David Gamson (Scritti Politti, Meshell Ndegeocello)) speaks against Prince involvement, so I don't know.

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Reply #9 posted 05/27/18 7:48pm

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SoulAlive said:

I could be wrong,but I think that it was Steve Fargnoli (one of Prince's managers) who brought these guys to Paisley Park Records.It's interesting that their album has no Prince involvement at all.Prince was contributing at least one track to the artists on the label,during that period.


He may have done that on occasion, but it wasn't a rule of thumb.

As far as the band and the record: it's pretty basic. Like, "Girl, you're so basic". The album suffers the same thing that Bobby Z.'s album did - the production dates it automatically. It sounds like a late 80's record. It's that clangy, reverby, over-produced sound. It's a lot like the Ric Wake big wall of synth sound that he developed in the late 80s with Taylor Dayne. Bobby had the same sound on his record, which was released a few years later. Prince sort of delved into the trendy sound around the early 90s sometimes. It dated a bit of his music (especially some b-sides or outtakes).

One of the better Paisley Park records that came out with a Prince contributed song was The Three O'Clock. They were established with two prior records to that point, and Vermillion certainly stands on its own even without "Neon Telephone". Ironically, they're considered part of the paisley pop movement.

As far as Good Question - it was cute while that sound was cute. Then it was old hat almost overnight.

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Reply #10 posted 05/27/18 7:51pm

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I am not sure if this video is official as a remix video, but even if it's fan made it uses the original video as the source.

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Reply #11 posted 06/04/18 12:32pm

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I always thought that all music released on P Park was either written/produced by Prince. Well u learn something everyday! Got a new love by Good Question is one of those forgettable songs.

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Reply #12 posted 06/04/18 2:46pm

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I always thought that all music released on P Park was either written/produced by Prince. Well u learn something everyday! Got a new love by Good Question is one of those forgettable songs.


No, PP was a full on record company early on, like Atlantic or whatever. Tons of bands recorded there. Movies were filmed there (like Grumpy Old Men). He has zero input on that, nor did he offer anything to most of the bands who rented studios there. I can't imagine a Prince song on an REM album.

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Reply #13 posted 06/07/18 1:48am

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A second single called "Listen To Your Heart" was released

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Reply #14 posted 06/10/18 1:31am

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jungleluv said:

I always thought that all music released on P Park was either written/produced by Prince. Well u learn something everyday!

When the label began,that's exactly how it was: Prince writing and producing all the material.The first few artists were Sheila E.,The Family and Mazarati.But somewhere along the way,other artists such as Good Question,Dale Bozzio,The Three O' Clock,etc. were signed.The two latter acts had one Prince-written track on their albums.I think the idea was to try to make Paisley Park a "real" record label and not just a label featuring Prince proteges singing Prince-written songs.

This is a good topic for another thread: the rise and fall of Paisley Park Records hmmm

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Reply #15 posted 06/11/18 3:16am

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TrivialPursuit said:

jungleluv said:

I always thought that all music released on P Park was either written/produced by Prince. Well u learn something everyday! Got a new love by Good Question is one of those forgettable songs.


No, PP was a full on record company early on, like Atlantic or whatever. Tons of bands recorded there. Movies were filmed there (like Grumpy Old Men). He has zero input on that, nor did he offer anything to most of the bands who rented studios there. I can't imagine a Prince song on an REM album.

You're confusing Paisley Park Records and Paisley Park Studios. Not the same thing.

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SoulAlive said:

jungleluv said:

I always thought that all music released on P Park was either written/produced by Prince. Well u learn something everyday!

When the label began,that's exactly how it was: Prince writing and producing all the material.The first few artists were Sheila E.,The Family and Mazarati.But somewhere along the way,other artists such as Good Question,Dale Bozzio,The Three O' Clock,etc. were signed.The two latter acts had one Prince-written track on their albums.I think the idea was to try to make Paisley Park a "real" record label and not just a label featuring Prince proteges singing Prince-written songs.

This is a good topic for another thread: the rise and fall of Paisley Park Records hmmm

I think the idea was always to make it a real label, it just made sense to begin with Prince side-projects until they'd find "real" artists, even though even Mazarati contained very little Prince involvement in the end (Prince offered a few songs out of which only one was kept, and rewrote the lyrics of 2 others uncredited, that's pretty much all he had to do with it: it was Mark's side-project not Prince's). It would however make sens to try and stick a Prince composition on as many records as possible because it would 1/ boost sales by encouraging Prince fans to buy the records and 2/ guarantee Prince some royatlies out of those records (it was a sort of win-win deal for both the artists and himself, in the end).

The label started slowly with only 2 non-Prince releases in 1985 and one in 1986.

It must be noted though that PP didn't have any read legal existence as a label at first: according to Alan Leeds the first few acts were signed directly to WB: it's hard to tell exactly which records were signed directly on the label but the earliest certified occurence would be Madhouse ("signed" in late 1986). Because of this, WB owns certain masters and the Estate owns most of the rest.

We know for certain that WB owns the 2 Sheila E. albums and Pandemonium, and it's almost certain that they also own The Family, Mazarati and Taja Sevelle at least.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure how it played but even though it was directly signed to PP, TC Ellis' account on how he was signed makes it clear his contract was drafted by WB, and we know the label was at liberty to refuse certain records (Margie Cox' 1989 record, Gold Nigga and the 1993 Madhouse 24), as well as to shut down the label as they eventually did. At all times, it remained a joint venture.

Similarly, again according to Alan, no Prince album was ever really released by the label: WB simply allowed Prince to stick the label's logo on the records to give the label some visibility, but all Prince records were in fact WB Records.

Back in 1992 there were rumors that P's new contract entitled him to launch a second vanity label called after the unpronounceable symbol (that was before Prince made it his own name). I've never heard of that ever since and, if it was true (which I doubt), I have no idea what that second label was supposed to be for.

Another unsolved mystery is what made Prince suddenly decide to not turn NPG Records into a proper successor label to PP, as was intitially planned (as proven by 1-800 New Funk and that whole planned-then-cancelled series of releases and PP rereleases that Edel was supposed to put out in Europe).

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jungleluv said:

I always thought that all music released on P Park was either written/produced by Prince. Well u learn something everyday! Got a new love by Good Question is one of those forgettable songs.

Lots of it wasn't. Many records contained little involvement by Prince. Some none at all.

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Reply #18 posted 06/11/18 10:43am

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No, PP was a full on record company early on, like Atlantic or whatever. Tons of bands recorded there. Movies were filmed there (like Grumpy Old Men). He has zero input on that, nor did he offer anything to most of the bands who rented studios there. I can't imagine a Prince song on an REM album.

You're confusing Paisley Park Records and Paisley Park Studios. Not the same thing.


I'm clear on what I said.

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databank said:

You're confusing Paisley Park Records and Paisley Park Studios. Not the same thing.


I'm clear on what I said.

Obviously you're not.

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Reply #20 posted 06/11/18 12:24pm

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TrivialPursuit said:


I'm clear on what I said.

Obviously you're not.


Yes because you are the one person in the world that can actually read minds. Yet, here you are, on the Org, Bart-ing it up. Girl, bye.

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Reply #21 posted 06/11/18 1:41pm

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databank said:




TrivialPursuit said:




I'm clear on what I said.



Obviously you're not.





Yes because you are the one person in the world that can actually read minds. Yet, here you are, on the Org, Bart-ing it up. Girl, bye.


I can read POSTS. Don't write stuff then tell people they should read your mind instead of your posts. I know what I've read, I ain't crazy. And don't shoot the messenger: I am not responsible for PP Records being a different thing than PP Studios. Go blame Prince Or God if you're unhappy with this.
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