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Prince Death Investigation Will Be Unsealed Monday - Part 2

1st thread got too wayyyy long. Continued on this new thread.........

http://www.fox9.com/news/...5145-story

CHASKA, Minn. (KMSP) - The search warrants related to the Prince death investigation will be unsealed and become public data on Monday, April 17, the Carver County Sheriff's Office confirmed Friday. Chief Deputy Jason Kamerud said "the matter remains an open and active investigation."

The unsealing of the documents comes almost exactly one year from the date of Prince's death.


Discussion continued on Part 3 http://prince.org/msg/7/442566

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Reply #1 posted 04/19/17 8:05pm

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Thanks Luv smile

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #2 posted 04/19/17 8:11pm

bilbolives

Thank you so much.

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Reply #3 posted 04/19/17 8:12pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Part 2 will have a positive energy?

lol

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Reply #4 posted 04/19/17 8:14pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Part 2 will have a positive energy?

lol


Love4oneanother I hope lol

Edmonton, AB - canada

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Reply #5 posted 04/19/17 8:25pm

babynoz

purplethunder3121 said:
This thread is just an example of how this site isn't about Prince's life and his music any more; it's turning into a sad reflection of what happened to Michael Jackson sites after he died. I hope this doesn't happen to Prince.org but it seems like it is and I've seen it sadly happen to other artist sites after they passed away...



Agreed. I bailed because it became the same rehash and pet theories that have been posted in every thread for the past year. Hardly anyone has read and discussed the warrants that are the topic of the thread and it shows. I'm not down with minimizing chronic pain and bashing Tyka yet again over cheetos. rolleyes

[Move on snip - luv4u]

Last word and I'm out. Heaven forbid anyone here ever has to cope with ongoing pain issues. You will quickly discover that you would drink piss water if you had to just to get some relief.

Pain issues are real.


Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #6 posted 04/19/17 8:26pm

babynoz

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Part 2 will have a positive energy?

lol



I would have settled for just staying on topic but oh well.....

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #7 posted 04/19/17 8:29pm

babynoz

I was NOT referring to the mod's decision luv.

But like I said, I'm out. Have your fun.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #8 posted 04/19/17 8:52pm

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babynoz said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Part 2 will have a positive energy?

lol



I would have settled for just staying on topic but oh well.....

Baby I will talk search warrants with you.

Do you want to start with Search Warrant #1?

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Reply #9 posted 04/19/17 9:21pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Search Warrant #1 requested on 4-21-16

Items taken into custody:

-15 Watson capsules number 852 found in 2nd floor dressing room.

-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky said name Vitamin D2 containing 7 green capsules with #194

-8 orange oval pills located Mirror Room inside suitcase on 2nd floor.

-Bayer Bottle with 64 1/4 white pills with Watson 853

-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky containing Ondasetron HCL 8 mg. Inside 10 white

pills inscription A-349, 8 mg. Inside 10 white round pills inscription A-349. I orange pill

with inscription #8 (?)

- Aleve bottle with 20 1/2 white pills Watson 853

-Recovery Without Walls pamphlet recovered from Purple Rain Room

-Item 1, 2, & 3 from Hennepin Co. Swab of neck left and right hand and neck. (?)

.

The police requested a search warrant to

-Process the crime scene

-Collect documents

-Collect all illicit narcotics

-Collect medications

-Collect paraphernalia

-Collect notes, and other documentation that could explain source of medication.

.

On 4-21-16 Sheriff's department was dispatched to a medical where a person

was not breathing. Deputy arrived on scene and located P and he was unresponsive

and was pronounced.

-Police were made aware by witnesses that P recently had a history of going through

withdrawal, which are believed to be a result of abuse of prescription medication.

-P's assistants arranged a meeting between P and medical professional to assess and

address P's medical concerns.

-The police asked the Judge for a search warrnat to process the scene surrounding

this unwitnessed death, and

- to collect all documentation that may include or describe information regarding Ps medical

condition, treatments, medical history, and prescriptions.

.

Sounds harsh.

Forgive me.

Lets discuss.

shake shake

[Edited 4/20/17 7:21am]

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Reply #10 posted 04/19/17 9:26pm

PeteSilas

babynoz said:

purplethunder3121 said:
This thread is just an example of how this site isn't about Prince's life and his music any more; it's turning into a sad reflection of what happened to Michael Jackson sites after he died. I hope this doesn't happen to Prince.org but it seems like it is and I've seen it sadly happen to other artist sites after they passed away...



Agreed. I bailed because it became the same rehash and pet theories that have been posted in every thread for the past year. Hardly anyone has read and discussed the warrants that are the topic of the thread and it shows. I'm not down with minimizing chronic pain and bashing Tyka yet again over cheetos. rolleyes

[Move on snip - luv4u]

Last word and I'm out. Heaven forbid anyone here ever has to cope with ongoing pain issues. You will quickly discover that you would drink piss water if you had to just to get some relief.

Pain issues are real.


it's true, i don't doubt it for a second. some people think they can deal with anything, but naw, they are just waiting to be humbled.

Prince.org: With fans like these he didn't need haters.
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Reply #11 posted 04/19/17 9:27pm

PeteSilas

those search warrants seemed pretty longwinded, mainly, i've been getting what i heard from you guys because all the pages i opened, looked like the same as the last one.

Prince.org: With fans like these he didn't need haters.
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Reply #12 posted 04/19/17 9:29pm

1Sasha

I do not have any experience with any type of drug abuse, but what surprised me was the apparently rehearsed and long-used method of storing all these pills. The scene portrayed a serious addiction.
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Reply #13 posted 04/19/17 9:41pm

2004Fan

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Search Warrant #1 requested on 4-21-16


Items taken into custody:


-15 Watson capsules number 852 found in 2nd floor dressing room.


-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky said name Vitamin D2 containing 7 green capsules with #194


-8 orange oval pills located Mirror Room inside suitcase on 2nd floor.


-Bayer Bottle with 64 1/4 white pills with Watson 853


-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky containing Ondasetron HCL 8 mg. Inside 10 white


pills inscription A-349, 8 mg. Inside 10 white round pills inscription A-349. I orange pill


with inscription #8 (?)


- Aleve bottle with 20 1/2 white pills Watson 853


-Recovery Without Walls pamphlet recovered from Purple Rain Room


-Hem 1, 2, & 3 from Hennepin Co. Swab of neck left and right hand and neck. (?)



Instead of "Hem", I believe the word is "Item".

I am here! Where R U?! Gotta broken heart again...
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Reply #14 posted 04/19/17 9:45pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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2004Fan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Search Warrant #1 requested on 4-21-16

Items taken into custody:

-15 Watson capsules number 852 found in 2nd floor dressing room.

-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky said name Vitamin D2 containing 7 green capsules with #194

-8 orange oval pills located Mirror Room inside suitcase on 2nd floor.

-Bayer Bottle with 64 1/4 white pills with Watson 853

-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky containing Ondasetron HCL 8 mg. Inside 10 white

pills inscription A-349, 8 mg. Inside 10 white round pills inscription A-349. I orange pill

with inscription #8 (?)

- Aleve bottle with 20 1/2 white pills Watson 853

-Recovery Without Walls pamphlet recovered from Purple Rain Room

-Hem 1, 2, & 3 from Hennepin Co. Swab of neck left and right hand and neck. (?)

Instead of "Hem", I believe the word is "Item".

Thanks!

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Reply #15 posted 04/19/17 9:52pm

PurpleDiamonds
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



2004Fan said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Search Warrant #1 requested on 4-21-16


Items taken into custody:


-15 Watson capsules number 852 found in 2nd floor dressing room.


-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky said name Vitamin D2 containing 7 green capsules with #194


-8 orange oval pills located Mirror Room inside suitcase on 2nd floor.


-Bayer Bottle with 64 1/4 white pills with Watson 853


-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky containing Ondasetron HCL 8 mg. Inside 10 white


pills inscription A-349, 8 mg. Inside 10 white round pills inscription A-349. I orange pill


with inscription #8 (?)


- Aleve bottle with 20 1/2 white pills Watson 853


-Recovery Without Walls pamphlet recovered from Purple Rain Room


-Hem 1, 2, & 3 from Hennepin Co. Swab of neck left and right hand and neck. (?)




Instead of "Hem", I believe the word is "Item".

Thanks!


We also thought Item 1,2&3 were from Hennepin coroners office.
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Reply #16 posted 04/19/17 9:55pm

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babynoz said:

purplethunder3121 said:
This thread is just an example of how this site isn't about Prince's life and his music any more; it's turning into a sad reflection of what happened to Michael Jackson sites after he died. I hope this doesn't happen to Prince.org but it seems like it is and I've seen it sadly happen to other artist sites after they passed away...



Agreed. I bailed because it became the same rehash and pet theories that have been posted in every thread for the past year. Hardly anyone has read and discussed the warrants that are the topic of the thread and it shows. I'm not down with minimizing chronic pain and bashing Tyka yet again over cheetos. rolleyes

[Move on snip - luv4u]

Last word and I'm out. Heaven forbid anyone here ever has to cope with ongoing pain issues. You will quickly discover that you would drink piss water if you had to just to get some relief.

Pain issues are real.



I bailed too and stayed away all day until now. I needed a break and some air. I do hope it stays on topic and doesn't descend into craziness again like every similar thread the last year. It would be nice to discuss the facts without having to constantly fend off people who drive the discussion into an incoherent frenzy.
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Reply #17 posted 04/19/17 10:18pm

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Herb4 said,

"I don't think it's a concidence that the change in Prince's appearance and the sharp turn into the illicit procuring of drugs directly coincides with the DEA rescheduling these medications and cracking down on them. Regular PCP's and GP's refused to prescribe and even the places that do were strictly monitored and regulated. Even pharmacies were unbder the microscope.

But by then, the genie was out of the bottle. The people that really NEEDED the meds were denied them or had to jump through more stringent hoops to get them while the ones that used them for kicks, sold them or unwillingly developed a dependency resorted to other means to obtain them. They've almost single handidly created an entire sub culture of addicts and, worse, in their shortsightedness, gave birth to an incredible spike in heroin use; not to mention the counterfeit racket that arose that ultimately led to what to happened to Prince."

I agree!

We all want the stuff that's found in our wildest dreams.

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Reply #18 posted 04/19/17 10:30pm

zenarose

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Search Warrant #1 requested on 4-21-16


Items taken into custody:


-15 Watson capsules number 852 found in 2nd floor dressing room.


-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky said name Vitamin D2 containing 7 green capsules with #194


-8 orange oval pills located Mirror Room inside suitcase on 2nd floor.


-Bayer Bottle with 64 1/4 white pills with Watson 853


-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky containing Ondasetron HCL 8 mg. Inside 10 white


pills inscription A-349, 8 mg. Inside 10 white round pills inscription A-349. I orange pill


with inscription #8 (?)


- Aleve bottle with 20 1/2 white pills Watson 853


-Recovery Without Walls pamphlet recovered from Purple Rain Room


-Hem 1, 2, & 3 from Hennepin Co. Swab of neck left and right hand and neck. (?)


.


The police requested a search warrant to


-Process the crime scene


-Collect documents


-Collect all illicit narcotics


-Collect medications


-Collect paraphernalia


-Collect notes, and other documentation that could explain source of medication.


.


On 4-21-16 Sheriff's department was dispatched to a medical where a person


was not breathing. Deputy arrived on scene and located P and he was unresponsive


and was pronounced.


-Police were made aware by witnesses that P recently had a history of going through


withdrawal, which are believed to be a result of abuse of prescription medication.


-P's assistants arranged a meeting between P and medical professional to assess and


address P's medical concerns.


-The police asked the Judge for a search warrnat to process the scene surrounding


this unwitnessed death, and


- to collect all documentation that may include or describe information regarding Ps medical


condition, treatments, medical history, and prescriptions.


.


Sounds harsh.


Forgive me.


Lets discuss.


shake shake


[Edited 4/19/17 21:24pm]




How did a pamphlet from the rehab get in the Purple Rain Room if Andrew had just arrived? The contact was made the day prior. No time for mail, ect.
It is strange to me that there were 1/4 and 1/2 pills. If P's addiction was as bad as it is stated, he would not ( in my mind) be taking small amounts. Don't shoot me!! I can only go by what I know from dealing with someone addicted to script drugs.
Also, was this the search warrant they were speaking of during the news conference when they stated that they would prepare the warrant and go back if need be?? Or did they find these items initially??
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Reply #19 posted 04/19/17 10:47pm

PurpleDiamonds
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zenarose said:

p>Search Warrant #1 requested on 4-21-16

Items taken into custody:


-15 Watson capsules number 852 found in 2nd floor dressing room.


-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky said name Vitamin D2 containing 7 green capsules with #194


-8 orange oval pills located Mirror Room inside suitcase on 2nd floor.


-Bayer Bottle with 64 1/4 white pills with Watson 853


-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky containing Ondasetron HCL 8 mg. Inside 10 white


pills inscription A-349, 8 mg. Inside 10 white round pills inscription A-349. I orange pill


with inscription #8 (?)


- Aleve bottle with 20 1/2 white pills Watson 853


-Recovery Without Walls pamphlet recovered from Purple Rain Room

./quote]


How did a pamphlet from the rehab get in the Purple Rain Room if Andrew had just arrived? The contact was made the day prior. No time for mail, ect.
It is strange to me that there were 1/4 and 1/2 pills. If P's addiction was as bad as it is stated, he would not ( in my mind) be taking small amounts. Don't shoot me!! I can only go by what I know from dealing with someone addicted to script drugs.
Also, was this the search warrant they were speaking of during the news conference when they stated that they would prepare the warrant and go back if need be?? Or did they find these items initially??


I agree, great point about the pamphlet, It makes sense that Andrew arrived the day before.
Also if he was so addicted and could not get enough of the pills they would not be cut in half.
[Edited 4/19/17 22:48pm]
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Reply #20 posted 04/20/17 12:45am

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

zenarose said:
p>Search Warrant #1 requested on 4-21-16

Items taken into custody:

-15 Watson capsules number 852 found in 2nd floor dressing room.

-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky said name Vitamin D2 containing 7 green capsules with #194

-8 orange oval pills located Mirror Room inside suitcase on 2nd floor.

-Bayer Bottle with 64 1/4 white pills with Watson 853

-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky containing Ondasetron HCL 8 mg. Inside 10 white

pills inscription A-349, 8 mg. Inside 10 white round pills inscription A-349. I orange pill

with inscription #8 (?)

- Aleve bottle with 20 1/2 white pills Watson 853

-Recovery Without Walls pamphlet recovered from Purple Rain Room

./quote] How did a pamphlet from the rehab get in the Purple Rain Room if Andrew had just arrived? The contact was made the day prior. No time for mail, ect. It is strange to me that there were 1/4 and 1/2 pills. If P's addiction was as bad as it is stated, he would not ( in my mind) be taking small amounts. Don't shoot me!! I can only go by what I know from dealing with someone addicted to script drugs. Also, was this the search warrant they were speaking of during the news conference when they stated that they would prepare the warrant and go back if need be?? Or did they find these items initially??
I agree, great point about the pamphlet, It makes sense that Andrew arrived the day before. Also if he was so addicted and could not get enough of the pills they would not be cut in half. [Edited 4/19/17 22:48pm]

Could the pamphlet have been obtained previously? If he was trying to cut down, then why wouldn't he, for example, take 3.5 pills where he was previously taking 4? Makes sense to me.

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Reply #21 posted 04/20/17 1:58am

CherryMoon57

The more we hear about all this, the more staged it sounds to me. I am even starting to think Prince himself had had enough of it all, packed his suitcase and is now enjoying his early retirement in a peaceful location... and I wouldn't blame him for it! There is an option 2 to this theory but it is way too sinister to share.

Main point is the more pills they find are more pills he didn't take.
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Reply #22 posted 04/20/17 2:05am

1Sasha

That pamphlet stuck out to me, too. Someone brought it to PP, and no one has said Kornfeld was called twice - once before the 20th and then on the 20th. Who contacted him earlier, because that blows the whole Andrew on the red eye scenario apart.
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Reply #23 posted 04/20/17 4:48am

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It's possible that somebody got the panflet and showed it to Prince.

Also, him trying to reduce would explain the half pills, imo.

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Reply #24 posted 04/20/17 4:59am

MIRvmn

CherryMoon57 said:

The more we hear about all this, the more staged it sounds to me. I am even starting to think Prince himself had had enough of it all, packed his suitcase and is now enjoying his early retirement in a peaceful location... and I wouldn't blame him for it! There is an option 2 to this theory but it is way too sinister to share.

Main point is the more pills they find are more pills he didn't take.

Yes I'm even more convinced that it's staged now one year later. The whole drug story sounds too unbelievable to be true
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Reply #25 posted 04/20/17 6:02am

zenarose

MMJas said:

It's possible that somebody got the panflet and showed it to Prince.


Also, him trying to reduce would explain the half pills, imo.




RE: the pamphlet... I don't think so because allegedly the first contact with
Dr. K was 4/20.
As for the 1/4 and 1/2 pills, maybe. I can only use my experience, and I never saw that. You may have a point.
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Reply #26 posted 04/20/17 6:34am

MrNelson7

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

babynoz said:



I would have settled for just staying on topic but oh well.....

Baby I will talk search warrants with you.

Do you want to start with Search Warrant #1?

LOL. This has such a seductive tone to it.

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Reply #27 posted 04/20/17 6:38am

MrNelson7

zenarose said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Search Warrant #1 requested on 4-21-16

Items taken into custody:

-15 Watson capsules number 852 found in 2nd floor dressing room.

-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky said name Vitamin D2 containing 7 green capsules with #194

-8 orange oval pills located Mirror Room inside suitcase on 2nd floor.

-Bayer Bottle with 64 1/4 white pills with Watson 853

-CVS Bottle under the name of Kirky containing Ondasetron HCL 8 mg. Inside 10 white

pills inscription A-349, 8 mg. Inside 10 white round pills inscription A-349. I orange pill

with inscription #8 (?)

- Aleve bottle with 20 1/2 white pills Watson 853

-Recovery Without Walls pamphlet recovered from Purple Rain Room

-Hem 1, 2, & 3 from Hennepin Co. Swab of neck left and right hand and neck. (?)

.

The police requested a search warrant to

-Process the crime scene

-Collect documents

-Collect all illicit narcotics

-Collect medications

-Collect paraphernalia

-Collect notes, and other documentation that could explain source of medication.

.

On 4-21-16 Sheriff's department was dispatched to a medical where a person

was not breathing. Deputy arrived on scene and located P and he was unresponsive

and was pronounced.

-Police were made aware by witnesses that P recently had a history of going through

withdrawal, which are believed to be a result of abuse of prescription medication.

-P's assistants arranged a meeting between P and medical professional to assess and

address P's medical concerns.

-The police asked the Judge for a search warrnat to process the scene surrounding

this unwitnessed death, and

- to collect all documentation that may include or describe information regarding Ps medical

condition, treatments, medical history, and prescriptions.

.

Sounds harsh.

Forgive me.

Lets discuss.

shake shake

[Edited 4/19/17 21:24pm]

How did a pamphlet from the rehab get in the Purple Rain Room if Andrew had just arrived? The contact was made the day prior. No time for mail, ect. It is strange to me that there were 1/4 and 1/2 pills. If P's addiction was as bad as it is stated, he would not ( in my mind) be taking small amounts. Don't shoot me!! I can only go by what I know from dealing with someone addicted to script drugs. Also, was this the search warrant they were speaking of during the news conference when they stated that they would prepare the warrant and go back if need be?? Or did they find these items initially??

I did not catch that when I read the warrants. That is a really interesting thought.

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Reply #28 posted 04/20/17 6:44am

MMJas

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zenarose said:

MMJas said:

It's possible that somebody got the panflet and showed it to Prince.

Also, him trying to reduce would explain the half pills, imo.

RE: the pamphlet... I don't think so because allegedly the first contact with Dr. K was 4/20. As for the 1/4 and 1/2 pills, maybe. I can only use my experience, and I never saw that. You may have a point.

Perhaps the person that left him the panflet later contacted Dr. K for the first time. The panflet does not necessarily mean Dr. K's son brought it with him. It could have preceeded any contact.

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Reply #29 posted 04/20/17 6:49am

disch

Or when Andrew arrived that morning, expecting to meet with P, he brought the pamplet with him and dropped or left somewhere when he ended up hunting around PP trying to find Prince.

MMJas said:

zenarose said:

MMJas said: RE: the pamphlet... I don't think so because allegedly the first contact with Dr. K was 4/20. As for the 1/4 and 1/2 pills, maybe. I can only use my experience, and I never saw that. You may have a point.

Perhaps the person that left him the panflet later contacted Dr. K for the first time. The panflet does not necessarily mean Dr. K's son brought it with him. It could have preceeded any contact.

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