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Thread started 08/10/17 3:06pm

June7

Moderator

moderator

Discuss The Sharon Nelson Q&A Thread Here - And Only Here

I'm all for discussion and there's plenty to discuss about the Q&A!

But, I'm also for respect and civility - so, I made sure to lock that thread and make sure she didn't have to deal with any of that directly.

I'm creating this thread to allow discussion but, I insist that it remain civil and respectful. Of course, legitimate conversation should take place, not everyone is going to agree with everything said, and I am aware of that - JUST BE RESPECTFUL IN YOUR DISCUSSION. That's all I ask - no demand.

Violators will be dealt with very harshly.

Thanks,

Tomás/June7

[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #1 posted 08/10/17 4:18pm

laytonian

Thank you.
It's interesting but because everything is bolded, it's hard to tell the questions from the answers. It all runs together.
Maybe edit to put Q: before the questions and then put'A: before the answers but do not bold them?
Like this:
.
Q: from (member name): insert question
A: Ms Nelson's reply.
.
Etc
.
Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
Reply #2 posted 08/10/17 4:33pm

PurpleYoda3121

So Prince's father apparently composed the melody for Purple Rain eek omg

U fall in love 2 fast and hate 2 soon
And take 4 granted the feeling’s mutual
Reply #3 posted 08/10/17 4:36pm

LonelyStarfish

The first question should have been "what is your role within the estate and do you have any power over what and when material will be released" the vault questions could have been streamlined. Best thing about it is that they're interested in a digital online prince site. That's what I'd like to see more than anything.
Music is music, ultimately. If it makes you feel good, cool.

My YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/c...pp=desktop
Reply #4 posted 08/10/17 4:52pm

morningsong

That was an interesting read and I'm looking forward to the others. I am dying to know what she found out the reason for the aluminum foil.


“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #5 posted 08/10/17 5:29pm

laytonian

morningsong said:

That was an interesting read and I'm looking forward to the others.   I am dying to know what she found out the reason for the aluminum foil.



I thought she gave the reason but agree it wasn't clear.
Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
Reply #6 posted 08/10/17 5:36pm

PennyPurple

PurpleYoda3121 said:

So Prince's father apparently composed the melody for Purple Rain eek omg

Yes, I'm kinda shocked about that also. eek

Reply #7 posted 08/10/17 5:36pm

June7

Moderator

moderator

In the immortal words of Ricky Nelson:

"Well, I'm alright now

I've learned my lesson well

See, you can't please everyone

So, you got to please yourself"

cool

[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #8 posted 08/10/17 5:39pm

PurpleYoda3121

PennyPurple said:

 



PurpleYoda3121 said:


So Prince's father apparently composed the melody for Purple Rain  eek  omg



Yes, I'm kinda shocked about that also.  eek


Which makes me wonder just how many of Prince's songs were consciously or unconsciously inspired by his dad's music.
U fall in love 2 fast and hate 2 soon
And take 4 granted the feeling’s mutual
Reply #9 posted 08/10/17 6:38pm

dance4me3121

She says the picture that's in the thread was taken in 1988 but that doesn't look like lovesexy era Prince.it looks like the purple rain era to me or earlier.Anyways she would know .I'm thankful she participated in this and answered questions.
Reply #10 posted 08/10/17 6:39pm

PennyPurple

Thank you for taking the time to answer.

[Edited 8/10/17 19:07pm]

Reply #11 posted 08/10/17 7:12pm

Vox

PurpleYoda3121 said:

So Prince's father apparently composed the melody for Purple Rain eek omg

I must have read it wrong. I assumed (there you go) that Dad had heard it and played it for Sharon before the album was released. Maybe I'm gullible...

A sophisticated mass-produced cacophony of no-win situations that aren't right...
Reply #12 posted 08/10/17 7:17pm

williamb610

So, as far as the song Scandalous, according to P's sister, Sharon, Prince and his Dad saw a fine girl at a club where they were. Then, P and Francis, I mean, John L. start writing lyrics on a napkin, trading the napkin back and forth as they check the chick out.

I don't know why...but that's cool as hell!

Reply #13 posted 08/10/17 7:21pm

LonelyStarfish

Vox said:

 



PurpleYoda3121 said:


So Prince's father apparently composed the melody for Purple Rain  eek  omg



 


I must have read it wrong. I assumed (there you go) that Dad had heard it and played it for Sharon before the album was released. Maybe I'm gullible...



John did an interview in 89 (it's on here somewhere) saying that purple rain is actually his song.
Music is music, ultimately. If it makes you feel good, cool.

My YouTube channel
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Reply #14 posted 08/10/17 8:37pm

purplefam99

PurpleYoda3121 said:

So Prince's father apparently composed the melody for Purple Rain  eek  omg




I have often wondered if his father was a silent collaborator.
And that any riffs as adults were them quibbling over music. And choosing
This direction or that sound. Musical mad men in their workshop. Father and son.
Reply #15 posted 08/10/17 8:47pm

laytonian

Vox said:

 



PurpleYoda3121 said:


So Prince's father apparently composed the melody for Purple Rain  eek  omg



 


I must have read it wrong. I assumed (there you go) that Dad had heard it and played it for Sharon before the album was released. Maybe I'm gullible...


.
"What was your favorite song of Prince's and why was it your favorite?
Purple Rain is my favorite, I heard the melody of that first from our dad."

.
That's an open answer. We don't know when she first heard it. P and his dad we re close at that time.
John did claim to have written it in that interview with Mike Watkiss, which seemed to touch off a break between the two of them.
.
[Edited 8/10/17 20:48pm]
Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
Reply #16 posted 08/10/17 9:56pm

Lovejunky

PennyPurple said:

PurpleYoda3121 said:

So Prince's father apparently composed the melody for Purple Rain eek omg

Yes, I'm kinda shocked about that also. eek

Me too and Im having a hard time understanding why he wouldnt have given credit, if its TRUE...

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #17 posted 08/11/17 12:32am

TheEnglishGent

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

Yes, I'm kinda shocked about that also. eek

Me too and Im having a hard time understanding why he wouldnt have given credit, if its TRUE...

The weird thing for me is that I'd always thought his Dad had input on Purple Rain. The weirder thing is that I've just had a search and can't find any evidence of this, so I've no idea why I had this thought in the first place.

RIP sad
Reply #18 posted 08/11/17 1:12am

sonshine

I now have more questions for her after reading Part I. Darn.

Have you had your plus sign (+) today?
Reply #19 posted 08/11/17 1:24am

fredmagnus

Sharon is asking the fans to get together and tell the Estate which 2 projects they want to be released first.

I was wondering if we could open a poll here where fans could pick the 2 first ones they want to be released first.

Then June7 would sent the result to Sharon.

Would this be possible ?
[Edited 8/11/17 1:25am]
Reply #20 posted 08/11/17 2:15am

June7

Moderator

moderator

fredmagnus said:

Sharon is asking the fans to get together and tell the Estate which 2 projects they want to be released first.

I was wondering if we could open a poll here where fans could pick the 2 first ones they want to be released first.

Then June7 would sent the result to Sharon.

Would this be possible ?
[Edited 8/11/17 1:25am]

It might be possible.
Let me think on this.
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #21 posted 08/11/17 2:20am

lemoncrush19

PurpleYoda3121 said:

PennyPurple said:

Yes, I'm kinda shocked about that also. eek

Which makes me wonder just how many of Prince's songs were consciously or unconsciously inspired by his dad's music.


now that's exactly how rumors begin ... she didn't say:"dad composed purple rain" ... she just said: "... I heard the melody of that first from our dad" ... so maybe dad just heard it before her and played it ...

but next thing y'all know (just 3 lil org days later) would be a thread over 253 pages with ppl claiming "prince's dad composed all his music" ... rolleyes

the only love there is is the love we make heart
Reply #22 posted 08/11/17 3:02am

MMJas

TheEnglishGent said:

Lovejunky said:

Me too and Im having a hard time understanding why he wouldnt have given credit, if its TRUE...

The weird thing for me is that I'd always thought his Dad had input on Purple Rain. The weirder thing is that I've just had a search and can't find any evidence of this, so I've no idea why I had this thought in the first place.

You are not alone. And I got that impression from the actual movie, Purple Rain. It kind of alludes to that.

Reply #23 posted 08/11/17 3:11am

daniorU

Thanks to you all for the interview,interesting read!

It seems they can consider fans for what will be released in the future and this is really good.

Is that picture of Prince and Sharon really from Lovesexy tour,?

It seems to me more like Purple Rain era but I could be wrong.

"We are the New Power Generation,and so are U!"
Reply #24 posted 08/11/17 3:20am

MMJas

daniorU said:

Thanks to you all for the interview,interesting read!

It seems they can consider fans for what will be released in the future and this is really good.

Is that picture of Prince and Sharon really from Lovesexy tour,?

It seems to me more like Purple Rain era but I could be wrong.

Agree. Hair seems too short and make up is not the same for Lovesexy, imo. Perhaps she got it mixed up.

[Edited 8/11/17 3:52am]

Reply #25 posted 08/11/17 5:11am

OperatingThetan

Glad the estate are considering a service similar to the NPG Music Club to deliver material directly to hardcore fans.

In terms of selecting what we want released, we would really need to select from a poll or be given a limited number of projects to choose from.

Reply #26 posted 08/11/17 5:21am

fredmagnus

^

It would be great to have a poll on the Org and i'm glad the Estate cares for what we want but it won't be easy to select the projects which would be submitted on this poll.

There are so many of them. Besides, I guess many fans would also be in favour of a Vault compilation which would include only unheard/ totally unknown songs.

Let's hope June7 can work this out though.
[Edited 8/11/17 5:23am]
Reply #27 posted 08/11/17 6:11am

nelcp777

To June 7 and Ms. Sharon Nelson, thank you very much.

June 7, you did an outstanding job. I was surpised to get the answers (not in a negative way).

After reading the answers, like many, I wanted more. Is that not a true Prince fan though? Just trying to be silly.

I am looking forward to Parts II and III.

Thanks again for the hard work!!!!

Reply #28 posted 08/11/17 6:26am

HatrinaHaterwitz

Wait! Did she say they hope the fans can come to a consensus together on what future projects we'd like released from the vault? Prince fans? Come to a consensus on something???

roflmao.gif

I'm sorry. I know she's new to this side of things but please do not sit here and pretend like y'all don't know how that could go. razz


bolivia-parliament-fight-o.gif



[Edited 8/11/17 20:46pm]

"Something...do not compute." disbelief
Reply #29 posted 08/11/17 6:40am

purplefam99

lemoncrush19 said:

 



PurpleYoda3121 said:


PennyPurple said:

 


Yes, I'm kinda shocked about that also.  eek



Which makes me wonder just how many of Prince's songs were consciously or unconsciously inspired by his dad's music.


now that's exactly how rumors begin ... she didn't say:"dad composed purple rain" ... she just said: "... I heard the melody of that first from our dad" ... so maybe dad just heard it before her and played it ...

but next thing y'all know (just 3 lil org days later) would be a thread over 253 pages with ppl claiming "prince's dad composed all his music" ... rolleyes 


Lemoncrush your point needs to be in bold at the top of this thread, because yes we
Are inferring into her statement. And doing that doesn't not serve the truth at all.
Reply #30 posted 08/11/17 6:46am

purplefam99

MMJas said:

 



TheEnglishGent said:


 



Lovejunky said:


 


Me too and Im having a hard time understanding why he wouldnt have given credit, if its TRUE...



The weird thing for me is that I'd always thought his Dad had input on Purple Rain. The weirder thing is that I've just had a search and can't find any evidence of this, so I've no idea why I had this thought in the first place.



 


You are not alone. And I got that impression from the actual movie, Purple Rain. It kind of alludes to that.



I thought THE MoVIE alluded to that too.
Reply #31 posted 08/11/17 7:41am

lemoncrush19

purplefam99 said:

lemoncrush19 said:


now that's exactly how rumors begin ... she didn't say:"dad composed purple rain" ... she just said: "... I heard the melody of that first from our dad" ... so maybe dad just heard it before her and played it ...

but next thing y'all know (just 3 lil org days later) would be a thread over 253 pages with ppl claiming "prince's dad composed all his music" ... rolleyes

Lemoncrush your point needs to be in bold at the top of this thread, because yes we Are inferring into her statement. And doing that doesn't not serve the truth at all.


u noticed, huh? biggrin

funniest thing is: straight under my original post (#21) which was ignored so far (which is not of any importance for me personally but confirmes pretty much what I tried to mention) ... straight under that post started exactly what I predicted lol ... and a few posts later the whole purple rain movie is dad's creation already ... and lots of orgers knew it all the time ... eek lol

the only love there is is the love we make heart
Reply #32 posted 08/11/17 7:55am

poppys

purplefam99 said:

MMJas said:

You are not alone. And I got that impression from the actual movie, Purple Rain. It kind of alludes to that.

I thought THE MoVIE alluded to that too.

WHAT?

lemon crush nailed it.

If your last December came, what would u do?
Reply #33 posted 08/11/17 8:11am

PennyPurple

I thought Photography was a hobby of his. Didn't he take pictures of Andy Allo and even use that on her cover?

Reply #34 posted 08/11/17 9:15am

OnlyNDaUsa

purplefam99 said:

MMJas said:

You are not alone. And I got that impression from the actual movie, Purple Rain. It kind of alludes to that.

I thought THE MoVIE alluded to that too.

not really...computer blue....yes... but not purple rain...

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #35 posted 08/11/17 9:26am

DarylB

There's a few things I would like to see released from the Prince estate:Sign O The Timesfilm Special Edition in the USA,the rumored,unreleased 1993 concert movie from the Act 1 and 2 tours,Piano and Microphone Paisley Park shows on Blu Ray and Cd and The Second Coming film with The Time and Zapp And Roger Troutman featured!
Reply #36 posted 08/11/17 9:53am

OperatingThetan

PurpleYoda3121 said:

So Prince's father apparently composed the melody for Purple Rain  eek  omg



Siblings naturally have their own view, whether it is objectively true or not is another matter. The film alludes to this so it could simply be confusion or a desire to promote John and his music.

There are obviously aspects about Prince that Sharon doesn't know that we do. She obviously had a different relationship with him and wasn't following him as we have.
Reply #37 posted 08/11/17 12:50pm

purplefam99

OnlyNDaUsa said:

 



purplefam99 said:


MMJas said:

 


 


You are not alone. And I got that impression from the actual movie, Purple Rain. It kind of alludes to that.



I thought THE MoVIE alluded to that too.

 


not really...computer blue....yes... but not purple rain... 




I'm speaking of the MOVIE Purple Rain not the song Purple Rain.
I think the movie alludes to perhaps some collaboration between the kid and Francis L.

Sorry for the confusion.
Reply #38 posted 08/11/17 12:52pm

purplefam99

poppys said:

 



purplefam99 said:


MMJas said:

 


 


You are not alone. And I got that impression from the actual movie, Purple Rain. It kind of alludes to that.



I thought THE MoVIE alluded to that too.

WHAT?

lemon crush nailed it.




See post #37
Reply #39 posted 08/11/17 12:58pm

purplefam99

lemoncrush19 said:

 



purplefam99 said:


lemoncrush19 said:

 



now that's exactly how rumors begin ... she didn't say:"dad composed purple rain" ... she just said: "... I heard the melody of that first from our dad" ... so maybe dad just heard it before her and played it ...

but next thing y'all know (just 3 lil org days later) would be a thread over 253 pages with ppl claiming "prince's dad composed all his music" ... rolleyes 



Lemoncrush your point needs to be in bold at the top of this thread, because yes we Are inferring into her statement. And doing that doesn't not serve the truth at all.


u noticed, huh?  biggrin

funniest thing is: straight under my original post (#21) which was ignored so far (which is not of any importance for me personally but confirmes pretty much what I tried to mention) ... straight under that post started exactly what I predicted  lol ... and a few posts later the whole purple rain movie is dad's creation already ... and lots of orgers knew it all the time ... eek lol




Yep no time at all. But I do feel the Movie Purple Rain alludes to "collaboration"
Or influence between the kid and Francis L. I am not speaking to the song. Just the tone of the film in a few parts.
Reply #40 posted 08/11/17 1:37pm

OnlyNDaUsa

purplefam99 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

not really...computer blue....yes... but not purple rain...

I'm speaking of the MOVIE Purple Rain not the song Purple Rain. I think the movie alludes to perhaps some collaboration between the kid and Francis L. Sorry for the confusion.

opps on my part ok cool yeah

[Edited 8/11/17 13:43pm]

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #41 posted 08/11/17 3:19pm

TheQuest

TheEnglishGent said:

Lovejunky said:

Me too and Im having a hard time understanding why he wouldnt have given credit, if its TRUE...

The weird thing for me is that I'd always thought his Dad had input on Purple Rain. The weirder thing is that I've just had a search and can't find any evidence of this, so I've no idea why I had this thought in the first place.

Perhaps it is the Mandela Effect

Reply #42 posted 08/11/17 4:40pm

tomds

Not much detailed answers about the content of the vault. They still have little knowledge of whatever is in the vault.
Reply #43 posted 08/11/17 4:55pm

Marrk

Nice effort. They'll only release what they think will pull in the most $'s first. No point in asking for anything recent. It'll be all about the 80s first. Unless they're real honest and do something online for the non-casuals, but i just don't really see it happening. The mediocre response to PR deluxe might change things though if we're looking for a silver lining. They might just throw a lot out and see what sticks, he has enough material. But who will promote and market it? I think the estate is like a headless chicken, a rabbit caught in the headlights, a big horrible mess.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
Reply #44 posted 08/11/17 5:00pm

tomds

Marrk said:

Nice effort. They'll only release what they think will pull in the most $'s first. No point in asking for anything recent. It'll be all about the 80s first. Unless they're real honest and do something online for the non-casuals, but i just don't really see it happening. The mediocre response to PR deluxe might change things though if we're looking for a silver lining. They might just throw a lot out and see what sticks, he has enough material. But who will promote and market it? I think the estate is like a headless chicken, a rabbit caught in the headlights, a big horrible mess.


they should hire an outsider as a compilation producer. A real fan with ears for what's interesting and what's not.
Reply #45 posted 08/11/17 7:22pm

206Michelle

tomds said:

Not much detailed answers about the content of the vault. They still have little knowledge of whatever is in the vault.

I believe that the Estate knows what is in the Vault or is cataloging the Vault because the Vault is one of the Estate's major assets. Sharon is not the official spokesperson for the Estate, so it is really not her place to comment on the specific contents within the Vault.
[Edited 8/12/17 14:06pm]
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Reply #46 posted 08/11/17 7:24pm

206Michelle

lemoncrush19 said:

 



PurpleYoda3121 said:


PennyPurple said:

 


Yes, I'm kinda shocked about that also.  eek



Which makes me wonder just how many of Prince's songs were consciously or unconsciously inspired by his dad's music.


now that's exactly how rumors begin ... she didn't say:"dad composed purple rain" ... she just said: "... I heard the melody of that first from our dad" ... so maybe dad just heard it before her and played it ...

but next thing y'all know (just 3 lil org days later) would be a thread over 253 pages with ppl claiming "prince's dad composed all his music" ... rolleyes 


yeahthat
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #47 posted 08/11/17 7:40pm

Moonbeam

fredmagnus said:

Sharon is asking the fans to get together and tell the Estate which 2 projects they want to be released first.

I was wondering if we could open a poll here where fans could pick the 2 first ones they want to be released first.

Then June7 would sent the result to Sharon.

Would this be possible ?
[Edited 8/11/17 1:25am]


I definitely would support this strategy. I mentioned something similar on the thread where we mention 2 projects we would like to see.
Feel free to join in the Prince Song Poll 2016! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince songs, as decided by you!
Reply #48 posted 08/12/17 1:08am

TheBahtMaster

They should choose the two best songs cool
1 U.S. Dollar = 34 Bahts

drool
Reply #49 posted 08/12/17 3:00am

MMJas

purplefam99 said:

lemoncrush19 said:


u noticed, huh? biggrin

funniest thing is: straight under my original post (#21) which was ignored so far (which is not of any importance for me personally but confirmes pretty much what I tried to mention) ... straight under that post started exactly what I predicted lol ... and a few posts later the whole purple rain movie is dad's creation already ... and lots of orgers knew it all the time ... eek lol

Yep no time at all. But I do feel the Movie Purple Rain alludes to "collaboration" Or influence between the kid and Francis L. I am not speaking to the song. Just the tone of the film in a few parts.

Hum? Now you agree? That's what i was saying, that i always felt the movie alluded to that, a collaboration/inspiration thing. I got that impression from watching it back when it came out and that PR was some kind of inspiration taken from his dad.

Reply #50 posted 08/12/17 5:28am

gandorb

TheEnglishGent said:

Lovejunky said:

Me too and Im having a hard time understanding why he wouldnt have given credit, if its TRUE...

The weird thing for me is that I'd always thought his Dad had input on Purple Rain. The weirder thing is that I've just had a search and can't find any evidence of this, so I've no idea why I had this thought in the first place.

[Edited 8/12/17 5:32am]

Reply #51 posted 08/12/17 8:33am

purplefam99

MMJas said:

purplefam99 said:

lemoncrush19 said: Yep no time at all. But I do feel the Movie Purple Rain alludes to "collaboration" Or influence between the kid and Francis L. I am not speaking to the song. Just the tone of the film in a few parts.

Hum? Now you agree? That's what i was saying, that i always felt the movie alluded to that, a collaboration/inspiration thing. I got that impression from watching it back when it came out and that PR was some kind of inspiration taken from his dad.

MMjas, yes hmmm, i believe in post #32 i agreed with you from the start, unless your talking about

Purple Rain the Song and i am referring to Purple Rain the FILM. the fact that they share the same

name can cause confusion. I am speaking about the film NOT the Song. best!

Reply #52 posted 08/12/17 8:42am

Doozer

My only comments are:

1. Thank you, June7 (and other mods who helped), for going out of your way to set this Q&A up. This has to be one of the most notable events in org history.

2. Thank you again to Sharon for taking the time to answer questions. Her time is valuable and we are lucky to have a portion of it.
Reply #53 posted 08/12/17 8:49am

purplefam99

If this is also the Thank You Thread, I too would like to say Thank you very much Sharon for

doing your best to shed light and answer our questions. If you were at Celebration 2017 I do

believe you held the door to the ladies room for me. Thank you!! Best!!

Reply #54 posted 08/12/17 11:39am

Misslink88

purplefam99 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

not really...computer blue....yes... but not purple rain...

I'm speaking of the MOVIE Purple Rain not the song Purple Rain. I think the movie alludes to perhaps some collaboration between the kid and Francis L. Sorry for the confusion.

The Purple Rain I saw alluded to a collaboration between Wendy & Lisa's "unheard" tape and The Kid finally listening to it and then putting Purple Rain together.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #55 posted 08/12/17 12:20pm

luvsexy4all

purplefam99 said:

PurpleYoda3121 said:

So Prince's father apparently composed the melody for Purple Rain eek omg

I have often wondered if his father was a silent collaborator. And that any riffs as adults were them quibbling over music. And choosing This direction or that sound. Musical mad men in their workshop. Father and son.

..not if u believe Wendy...

Reply #56 posted 08/12/17 1:44pm

purplefam99

Misslink88 said:

 



purplefam99 said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:

 


 


not really...computer blue....yes... but not purple rain... 



I'm speaking of the MOVIE Purple Rain not the song Purple Rain. I think the movie alludes to perhaps some collaboration between the kid and Francis L. Sorry for the confusion.

The Purple Rain I saw alluded to a collaboration between Wendy & Lisa's "unheard" tape and The Kid finally listening to it and then putting Purple Rain together.




Misslink in the movie, to me after he wakes looks at the sheet music goes into the piano room and starts to possible add some of Francis L's arrangement around Lisa and Wendy's tape music. That is the moment of inspiration of Francis L I am speaking of. When he looks at the sheet music.
Reply #57 posted 08/12/17 4:27pm

Misslink88

purplefam99 said:

Misslink88 said:

The Purple Rain I saw alluded to a collaboration between Wendy & Lisa's "unheard" tape and The Kid finally listening to it and then putting Purple Rain together.

Misslink in the movie, to me after he wakes looks at the sheet music goes into the piano room and starts to possible add some of Francis L's arrangement around Lisa and Wendy's tape music. That is the moment of inspiration of Francis L I am speaking of. When he looks at the sheet music.

I saw that moment as him seeing how they were similar in character, not that he took inspiration from it. If you look at the overall "you're music only makes sense to yourself" and his insistence on playing whatever he wanted in the movie, he felt very protective of his self-expression - it was him trying to work through what was happening around him. The tape was a constant sore point between him and W&L and the collaboration was his way of letting them in, unlike his father's approach to those around him. That's just my take on it; I get what you're saying.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #58 posted 08/12/17 7:15pm

purplefam99

Misslink88 said:

 



purplefam99 said:


Misslink88 said:

 


The Purple Rain I saw alluded to a collaboration between Wendy & Lisa's "unheard" tape and The Kid finally listening to it and then putting Purple Rain together.



Misslink in the movie, to me after he wakes looks at the sheet music goes into the piano room and starts to possible add some of Francis L's arrangement around Lisa and Wendy's tape music. That is the moment of inspiration of Francis L I am speaking of. When he looks at the sheet music.

I saw that moment as him seeing how they were similar in character, not that he took inspiration from it.  If you look at the overall "you're music only makes sense to yourself" and his insistence on playing whatever he wanted in the movie, he felt very protective of his self-expression - it was him trying to work through what was happening around him.  The tape was a constant sore point between him and W&L and the collaboration was his way of letting them in, unlike his father's approach to those around him.   That's just my take on it; I get what you're saying.




Yes I was thinking that was why he dedicated the song to him because Francis L was his inspiration in some way. But your scenario could be as well.
Reply #59 posted 08/13/17 3:13am

MMJas

purplefam99 said:

MMJas said:

Hum? Now you agree? That's what i was saying, that i always felt the movie alluded to that, a collaboration/inspiration thing. I got that impression from watching it back when it came out and that PR was some kind of inspiration taken from his dad.

MMjas, yes hmmm, i believe in post #32 i agreed with you from the start, unless your talking about

Purple Rain the Song and i am referring to Purple Rain the FILM. the fact that they share the same

name can cause confusion. I am speaking about the film NOT the Song. best!

Ok, my bad. smile

Reply #60 posted 08/13/17 5:42am

muleFunk

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

Yes, I'm kinda shocked about that also. eek

Me too and Im having a hard time understanding why he wouldnt have given credit, if its TRUE...

Yeah John R. wrote all of Prince's songs along with Lisa and Wendy.

Reply #61 posted 08/13/17 6:26am

poppys

muleFunk said:

Lovejunky said:

Me too and Im having a hard time understanding why he wouldnt have given credit, if its TRUE...

Yeah John R. wrote all of Prince's songs along with Lisa and Wendy.

This thread is fan ficton about Purple Rain - The Film - featuring John Nelson.

If your last December came, what would u do?
Reply #62 posted 08/13/17 12:28pm

morningsong

I think a lot of us feel/felt its too rude to ask THE question we really want to ask. A lot of this just seems repetitive, when will we have access to what's in the Vault, asked 1,000 different ways. So... yeah, I guess we can spend our time nitpiking at lint.
“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #63 posted 08/13/17 9:10pm

daKotaGeNesis

williamb610 said:

So, as far as the song Scandalous, according to P's sister, Sharon, Prince and his Dad saw a fine girl at a club where they were. Then, P and Francis, I mean, John L. start writing lyrics on a napkin, trading the napkin back and forth as they check the chick out.


 


I don't know why...but that's cool as hell!


 


A once scary song turned out to be a hilarious situation!
Reply #64 posted 08/14/17 6:59am

June7

Moderator

moderator

I've deleted two posts I felt were unnecessary or rude, or both. These types of posts will not be tolerated. Please refrain.
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #65 posted 08/14/17 8:17am

PurpleMusic07

Honest question: if Prince's father was the original composer of elements of the Purple Rain melody or even if his work was a subtle inspiration to it, why is that necessarily a bad thing? Sharon definitely left that answer open/vague - and I'm not sure if that was totally on purpose OR if mystique/speaking in riddles is a family trait. IMO - her making it a point to say that PR was one of her faves because "she heard the melody first" from their dad more than likely speaks to there being some kind of fond family memory associated with the melody and later the song. But that's just me...

With that said, I understand everyone's desire to preserve Prince's legacy, but thatt doesn't take ANYTHING away from Prince at all. And frankly, with Prince's varied interests in many styles of music and growing up with a father who seemed to frequently be composing music, I would be VERY surprised if there never was any overlap between music he heard growing up and the music he later created. James Brown, for example, is ALL OVER some of Prince's funk output, so why wouldn't John Nelson be?

"Where you are now is in a place that does not require time." - Rest In Power, PRINCE
Reply #66 posted 08/14/17 9:57am

POOK


POOK READ SHARON ANSWER
POOK KNEW IT!
PRINCE ON PRNCE FORUM
ORG THINK PRINCE KNOW WHO POOK IS?
POOK THINK SO

P o o |/,
P o o |\
Reply #67 posted 08/14/17 12:11pm

poppys

I don't. Who is Pook?

If your last December came, what would u do?
Reply #68 posted 08/14/17 1:16pm

luvsexy4all

did she answer my question.....how come no one was with him that fateful night??

Reply #69 posted 08/14/17 1:32pm

IstenSzek

POOK said:

POOK READ SHARON ANSWER POOK KNEW IT! PRINCE ON PRNCE FORUM ORG THINK PRINCE KNOW WHO POOK IS? POOK THINK SO


pookie, is the limo warm? cool

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #70 posted 08/14/17 1:37pm

IstenSzek

PennyPurple said:

I thought Photography was a hobby of his. Didn't he take pictures of Andy Allo and even use that on her cover?


i thought the same thing. his website posted pictures he took of bria at the time, too.
plus his famous 'first selfie' and other picture. he was also pictured photographing the
papz with a decent looking camera, back in the lotusflower era or shortly before.

seems his interest in photography was something he got into in the last 10 years or so?


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #71 posted 08/14/17 2:01pm

purplefam99

PurpleMusic07 said:

Honest question: if Prince's father was the original composer of elements of the Purple Rain melody or even if his work was a subtle inspiration to it, why is that necessarily a bad thing? Sharon definitely left that answer open/vague - and I'm not sure if that was totally on purpose OR if mystique/speaking in riddles is a family trait. IMO - her making it a point to say that PR was one of her faves because "she heard the melody first" from their dad more than likely speaks to there being some kind of fond family memory associated with the melody and later the song. But that's just me...

With that said, I understand everyone's desire to preserve Prince's legacy, but thatt doesn't take ANYTHING away from Prince at all. And frankly, with Prince's varied interests in many styles of music and growing up with a father who seemed to frequently be composing music, I would be VERY surprised if there never was any overlap between music he heard growing up and the music he later created. James Brown, for example, is ALL OVER some of Prince's funk output, so why wouldn't John Nelson be?

[Edited 8/14/17 8:19am]

I agree ^^^.

Reply #72 posted 08/14/17 4:23pm

OnlyNDaUsa

there is an inside edition or similar gossip show that had his family on it in the 90sthat I believe John claimed to have composed the music.

it was on A Current Affair 1991 it is on YT and DM

[Edited 8/14/17 16:30pm]

"I was raped by the Arkansas AG who then becomes Governor & President..." Juanita Broaddrick
Reply #73 posted 08/14/17 4:59pm

PennyPurple

IstenSzek said:

PennyPurple said:

I thought Photography was a hobby of his. Didn't he take pictures of Andy Allo and even use that on her cover?


i thought the same thing. his website posted pictures he took of bria at the time, too.
plus his famous 'first selfie' and other picture. he was also pictured photographing the
papz with a decent looking camera, back in the lotusflower era or shortly before.

seems his interest in photography was something he got into in the last 10 years or so?


But of course, what do we know? eek

Reply #74 posted 08/14/17 11:30pm

paulludvig

OnlyNDaUsa said:

there is an inside edition or similar gossip show that had his family on it in the 90sthat I believe John claimed to have composed the music.

it was on A Current Affair 1991 it is on YT and DM

[Edited 8/14/17 16:30pm]

And when he played the song it sounded nothing like Purple Rain as we know it biggrin

The wooh is on the one!
Reply #75 posted 08/15/17 3:14am

MMJas

luvsexy4all said:

did she answer my question.....how come no one was with him that fateful night??

No, she did not come to that yet. Maybe she'll adress it part two? I doubt it.

Reply #76 posted 08/15/17 3:16am

MMJas

IstenSzek said:

PennyPurple said:

I thought Photography was a hobby of his. Didn't he take pictures of Andy Allo and even use that on her cover?


i thought the same thing. his website posted pictures he took of bria at the time, too.
plus his famous 'first selfie' and other picture. he was also pictured photographing the
papz with a decent looking camera, back in the lotusflower era or shortly before.

seems his interest in photography was something he got into in the last 10 years or so?


I also was under the impression he had a thing for photography. But maybe Sharon did not know him that well. That photo was not taken during the Lovesexy era, that's for sure. I believe that for all her good intentions, she did not know Prince that well.

Reply #77 posted 08/15/17 3:52am

Lovejunky

MMJas said:

IstenSzek said:


i thought the same thing. his website posted pictures he took of bria at the time, too.
plus his famous 'first selfie' and other picture. he was also pictured photographing the
papz with a decent looking camera, back in the lotusflower era or shortly before.

seems his interest in photography was something he got into in the last 10 years or so?


I also was under the impression he had a thing for photography. But maybe Sharon did not know him that well. That photo was not taken during the Lovesexy era, that's for sure. I believe that for all her good intentions, she did not know Prince that well.

Yes..that became very clear after reading her responses.

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #78 posted 08/15/17 11:56am

IstenSzek

Lovejunky said:

MMJas said:

I also was under the impression he had a thing for photography. But maybe Sharon did not know him that well. That photo was not taken during the Lovesexy era, that's for sure. I believe that for all her good intentions, she did not know Prince that well.

Yes..that became very clear after reading her responses.


nod

that's not a bad thing. it doesn't reflect on her in any sort of way, for me. i mean, she's an heir,
and she's now part of the estate, together with the other siblings.

obviously the things she knows best are things from long, long ago and they probably weren't in
close contact later on, apart from on and off bits and bobs but i doubt she followed his carreer or
his personal life as closely as his fans did.

which is why i would have prefered for there to be even more questions about the estate, and not
all these questions about prince in later life since her answers mostly make it obvious she doesn't
know (well).

on the other hand, she's also only 1 person, and in answering estate questions she's also 1 of 3
persons that form 1 party within the estate (tyka and omar being the second party, right?) so i'm
not sure just what use the whole questionaire was in practical terms.

don't get me wrong, it's cool of her to agree and do it and it's cool of june7 to work this all out.

it's just all a bit 'ok, and?', you know?

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #79 posted 08/15/17 12:08pm

poppys

nod

Lovejunky said:

MMJas said:

I also was under the impression he had a thing for photography. But maybe Sharon did not know him that well. That photo was not taken during the Lovesexy era, that's for sure. I believe that for all her good intentions, she did not know Prince that well.

Yes..that became very clear after reading her responses.

If your last December came, what would u do?
Reply #80 posted 08/15/17 1:32pm

morningsong

IstenSzek said:

Lovejunky said:

Yes..that became very clear after reading her responses.


nod

that's not a bad thing. it doesn't reflect on her in any sort of way, for me. i mean, she's an heir,
and she's now part of the estate, together with the other siblings.

obviously the things she knows best are things from long, long ago and they probably weren't in
close contact later on, apart from on and off bits and bobs but i doubt she followed his carreer or
his personal life as closely as his fans did.

which is why i would have prefered for there to be even more questions about the estate, and not
all these questions about prince in later life since her answers mostly make it obvious she doesn't
know (well).

on the other hand, she's also only 1 person, and in answering estate questions she's also 1 of 3
persons that form 1 party within the estate (tyka and omar being the second party, right?) so i'm
not sure just what use the whole questionaire was in practical terms.

don't get me wrong, it's cool of her to agree and do it and it's cool of june7 to work this all out.

it's just all a bit 'ok, and?', you know?



I THINK I get why Sharon is open to questions. Possibly to answer old rumors, but nobody that keeps talking about the same things for years even bothered to ask about them from what I noticed. So I'm not sure what else is there to say.

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #81 posted 08/15/17 1:55pm

purplefam99

morningsong said:

IstenSzek said:


nod

that's not a bad thing. it doesn't reflect on her in any sort of way, for me. i mean, she's an heir,
and she's now part of the estate, together with the other siblings.

obviously the things she knows best are things from long, long ago and they probably weren't in
close contact later on, apart from on and off bits and bobs but i doubt she followed his carreer or
his personal life as closely as his fans did.

which is why i would have prefered for there to be even more questions about the estate, and not
all these questions about prince in later life since her answers mostly make it obvious she doesn't
know (well).

on the other hand, she's also only 1 person, and in answering estate questions she's also 1 of 3
persons that form 1 party within the estate (tyka and omar being the second party, right?) so i'm
not sure just what use the whole questionaire was in practical terms.

don't get me wrong, it's cool of her to agree and do it and it's cool of june7 to work this all out.

it's just all a bit 'ok, and?', you know?



I THINK I get why Sharon is open to questions. Possibly to answer old rumors, but nobody that keeps talking about the same things for years even bothered to ask about them from what I noticed. So I'm not sure what else is there to say.

Regarding the rumor i think you are referring, my guess is that if it were true in the strickest sense, she would not have been around to take that pic (that she said was Lovesexy era) nor would she have been at the club to see him and John Nelson scribble on a napkin about girls. my guess.

Reply #82 posted 08/15/17 3:09pm

morningsong

purplefam99 said:

morningsong said:



I THINK I get why Sharon is open to questions. Possibly to answer old rumors, but nobody that keeps talking about the same things for years even bothered to ask about them from what I noticed. So I'm not sure what else is there to say.

Regarding the rumor i think you are referring, my guess is that if it were true in the strickest sense, she would not have been around to take that pic (that she said was Lovesexy era) nor would she have been at the club to see him and John Nelson scribble on a napkin about girls. my guess.



Well, the floor was opened and they didn't take the opportunity so I guess folks weren't really that interested to begin with. Then again maybe it's in parts 2 & 3.

[Edited 8/15/17 15:11pm]

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #83 posted 08/15/17 3:39pm

June7

Moderator

moderator

[FYI - The offer to be involved in the Q&A with the other members of the estate was submitted. At 'press-time' no one else had responded. That was one of the reasons for the delay in this part of the interview. Earlier this year or late last year, there was interest from two others (whom will remain nameless), and then interest died on their part, apparently. Regardless of whom we deem more privvy to information or as to what's going on with the vault - the truth is, this is the closest and most truthful source anyone has had the opportunity to be able to question and print answers to regarding our beloved, Prince.

I know a lot of you think that due to the level of fandom you are at that you know more than others about him but, all you have in your arsenal of information is just rumor or wikifacts, or worse. I also know that a lot of you think you're not being rude or insensitive, but it doesn't always come off that way. About rumors in a song, or closeness of siblings, any of you in your 30's/40's or older, with at least four siblings in your family, step or otherwise, tell me how often you speak to them, or if living in other states, how often you actually get together these days? Exactly. Why would this family be any different?

The information in this interview is directly from 1 of 6 people who share the same blood and have a direct influence as to what will happen next in the future of his music and legacy. So, what I guess I'm trying to say is ... a little respect for her, please. - June7]

[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #84 posted 08/15/17 3:52pm

langebleu

moderator

IstenSzek said:

PennyPurple said:

I thought Photography was a hobby of his. Didn't he take pictures of Andy Allo and even use that on her cover?


i thought the same thing. his website posted pictures he took of bria at the time, too.
plus his famous 'first selfie' and other picture. he was also pictured photographing the
papz with a decent looking camera, back in the lotusflower era or shortly before.

seems his interest in photography was something he got into in the last 10 years or so?



Some photography for The Family album from 1985 was by Prince.

ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
Reply #85 posted 08/15/17 4:24pm

June7

Moderator

moderator

[BTW - I just received the second round of questions with answers! I'll post them late tonight!! - June7]

[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #86 posted 08/15/17 6:40pm

206Michelle

PennyPurple said:

I thought Photography was a hobby of his. Didn't he take pictures of Andy Allo and even use that on her cover?


I thought that photography was a hobby of Prince's as well. I have a sister, 3 years younger than me, and I don't know all of the details of her life. I don't expect Sharon to know every last detail of Prince's life. Asking whether photography was one of his hobbies is not a sensitive or private question, so my guess is that there are other people who could also speak to Prince's interest in photography.
.
I am very thankful that Sharon is willing to answer our questions and engage with us, the fans. I greatly appreciate her perspective. I also understand that she may not be able to share all of the information that she knows, particularly regarding the Estate. I appreciate the perspectives of the family members, friends, and associates of Prince. Each of their perspectives is a puzzle piece that fills in the proverbial incomplete puzzle about our beloved Prince.
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #87 posted 08/15/17 7:56pm

Lovejunky

206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said:

I thought Photography was a hobby of his. Didn't he take pictures of Andy Allo and even use that on her cover?

I thought that photography was a hobby of Prince's as well. I have a sister, 3 years younger than me, and I don't know all of the details of her life. I don't expect Sharon to know every last detail of Prince's life. Asking whether photography was one of his hobbies is not a sensitive or private question, so my guess is that there are other people who could also speak to Prince's interest in photography. . I am very thankful that Sharon is willing to answer our questions and engage with us, the fans. I greatly appreciate her perspective. I also understand that she may not be able to share all of the information that she knows, particularly regarding the Estate. I appreciate the perspectives of the family members, friends, and associates of Prince. Each of their perspectives is a puzzle piece that fills in the proverbial incomplete puzzle about our beloved Prince.

It was a hobby of his....we KNOW that NOW...but myself...I didnt come to learn of this until after April 21

Makes sense...he was such a creative...Photography is yet another expression...

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #88 posted 08/15/17 8:31pm

poppys

June7 said:

[FYI - The offer to be involved in the Q&A with the other members of the estate was submitted. At 'press-time' no one else had responded. That was one of the reasons for the delay in this part of the interview. Earlier this year or late last year, there was interest from two others (whom will remain nameless), and then interest died on their part, apparently. Regardless of whom we deem more privvy to information or as to what's going on with the vault - the truth is, this is the closest and most truthful source anyone has had the opportunity to be able to question and print answers to regarding our beloved, Prince.

I know a lot of you think that due to the level of fandom you are at that you know more than others about him but, all you have in your arsenal of information is just rumor or wikifacts, or worse. I also know that a lot of you think you're not being rude or insensitive, but it doesn't always come off that way. About rumors in a song, or closeness of siblings, any of you in your 30's/40's or older, with at least four siblings in your family, step or otherwise, tell me how often you speak to them, or if living in other states, how often you actually get together these days? Exactly. Why would this family be any different?

The information in this interview is directly from 1 of 6 people who share the same blood and have a direct influence as to what will happen next in the future of his music and legacy. So, what I guess I'm trying to say is ... a little respect for her, please. - June7]

Thanks June. Makes plenty of sense.

If your last December came, what would u do?
Reply #89 posted 08/16/17 3:04am

BartVanHemelen

IstenSzek said:

PennyPurple said:

I thought Photography was a hobby of his. Didn't he take pictures of Andy Allo and even use that on her cover?


i thought the same thing. his website posted pictures he took of bria at the time, too.
plus his famous 'first selfie' and other picture. he was also pictured photographing the
papz with a decent looking camera, back in the lotusflower era or shortly before.

seems his interest in photography was something he got into in the last 10 years or so?


.

Am I the only one who remembers the credits on The Family?

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #90 posted 08/16/17 4:49am

PennyPurple

BartVanHemelen said:



.

Am I the only one who remembers the credits on The Family?

No, Langbleu told us a couple of posts up. biggrin

Reply #91 posted 08/16/17 7:22am

databank

I've mùissed the opportunity to ask questions because I was on holiday but I wish to warmly thank June7 for making this happen, and Ms. Sharon Nelson for taking the time to interact with us. I hope this will open the door for more communication between the fans community and the P camp, and I'm also grateful that Sharon asked for our wishes in terms of future releases.

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
Reply #92 posted 08/16/17 7:27am

purplefam99

June7 said:

[BTW - I just received the second round of questions with answers! I'll post them late tonight!! - June7]




Thanks june7 for putting this together, did you get a chance to post up part 2 or am I overlooking it?
Reply #93 posted 08/16/17 12:50pm

June7

Moderator

moderator

purplefam99 said:

June7 said:

[BTW - I just received the second round of questions with answers! I'll post them late tonight!! - June7]




Thanks june7 for putting this together, did you get a chance to post up part 2 or am I overlooking it?

No, couldn't post last night. At school now - will get Part II up tonight (or sooner) for sure. Sorry!
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #94 posted 08/16/17 1:04pm

purplefam99

June7 said:

purplefam99 said:




Thanks june7 for putting this together, did you get a chance to post up part 2 or am I overlooking it?

No, couldn't post last night. At school now - will get Part II up tonight (or sooner) for sure. Sorry!



Ok thx!! Take your time.
Reply #95 posted 08/16/17 4:25pm

MD431Madcat

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[Edited 8/18/17 20:04pm]

Reply #96 posted 08/16/17 7:27pm

williamb610

BartVanHemelen said:

IstenSzek said:


i thought the same thing. his website posted pictures he took of bria at the time, too.
plus his famous 'first selfie' and other picture. he was also pictured photographing the
papz with a decent looking camera, back in the lotusflower era or shortly before.

seems his interest in photography was something he got into in the last 10 years or so?


.

Am I the only one who remembers the credits on The Family?

P did all the interior pictures for the Family's album, if I remember correctly.

Reply #97 posted 08/17/17 3:33am

MMJas

So, are we supposed to discuss part II here?

Reply #98 posted 08/17/17 4:49am

Purplebflogirl

In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.
Until the end of time
Reply #99 posted 08/17/17 5:05am

MMJas

Well, from Part Two I got the impression she is as much shocked and in need of answers regarding his death as we are...

Reply #100 posted 08/17/17 5:48am

benni

June7, I just wanted to thank you for putting this together. I can't imagine how difficult it has been for the family, knowing how difficult it has been for his fans. I appreciated the opportunity to personally send my sympathy, and to ask some questions. One thing that I was worried about, due to rumors and such of how lonely he may have been, was whether he knew he was so very loved by the world, and I'm glad she gave confirmation that he knew. I think, too often, we don't realize the impact that we do have on other people's lives, and just how loved we are, so I'm very glad he knew.

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
Reply #101 posted 08/17/17 5:53am

benni

Purplebflogirl said:

In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.


Umm, no, we all didn't know the answer to that. And again, it was her "opinion" which doesn't mean it was fact. Too often people confuse opinion with fact. I accept that her opinion was Denise was the love of his life, but the only one that can truly answer that is Prince, himself. I don't have an opinion on who the love of his life was, because it really doesn't matter. That part of his life was his private joy and really isn't our business. It doesn't matter who the love of his life was, because he lived his life his way and ultimately he wasn't with any of them at the end; ex-wives nor ex-girlfriends. And personally, I don't want to imagine Prince as someone who spent his life pining away over a woman. That is a painful experience and I don't wish that on him (or anyone for that matter).

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
Reply #102 posted 08/17/17 6:03am

LonelyStarfish

benni said:

Paradise000:


Q: I remember on the day Prince passed there was an avatar of Prince's face on his Twitter with his eyes closed and a teardrop falling. It was removed just as quickly as soon as the news hit the world. Do you know who put the picture up and removed it?


[Deleted - June7]

_____

The avatar was taken down before Prince's passing.  I remember that.  It was put up after he had to postpone the first Atlanta concerts and then was removed shortly the Atlanta concerts.  I always thought it was put up because on April 7th, the caretaker of Fox Theater in Atlanta had passed away.  Others speculated that it was put up because he had to postpone the Atlanta show and disappointing his fans, and because he wasn't feeling well.  I thought that might be a part of it when the avatar was removed after the Atlanta concerts took place.



Someone on twitter said it was changed on march 22, my birthday so i remember the date they said. They could be wrong tho.

OT: thanks for asking my questions june 7. I wish i had asked more probing questions now seeing as someone asked her outright about Sister. Can we get a do-over? razz
Music is music, ultimately. If it makes you feel good, cool.

My YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/c...pp=desktop
Reply #103 posted 08/17/17 6:09am

luvgirl

Purplebflogirl said:

In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.

Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...

[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]

I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #104 posted 08/17/17 6:19am

SchlomoThaHomo

IstenSzek said:

PennyPurple said:

I thought Photography was a hobby of his. Didn't he take pictures of Andy Allo and even use that on her cover?


i thought the same thing. his website posted pictures he took of bria at the time, too.
plus his famous 'first selfie' and other picture. he was also pictured photographing the
papz with a decent looking camera, back in the lotusflower era or shortly before.

seems his interest in photography was something he got into in the last 10 years or so?



Wasn't he credited for the Koo Koo single cover? More useless trivia hanging out in my brain.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #105 posted 08/17/17 6:31am

SchlomoThaHomo

She made a point to draw a line between the heirs and the estate, divulging that they had no say in regards to estate matters. I found this confusing. I thought the heirs WERE the estate. And who is the estate if not the heirs, why do the heirs have no say, who is/are making the current estate decisions, and who authorized whomever is making the current decisions to do so? Why is the family asking fans what they would like to see released if they have no say in what gets released?

She also said to not hold our breath in regards to remasters but didn't elaborate. These seem like the easiest and most obvious choices for posthumous releases, but she implied otherwise. So what's the problem?

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #106 posted 08/17/17 6:44am

Mumio

benni said:

Purplebflogirl said:

In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.


Umm, no, we all didn't know the answer to that. And again, it was her "opinion" which doesn't mean it was fact. Too often people confuse opinion with fact. I accept that her opinion was Denise was the love of his life, but the only one that can truly answer that is Prince, himself. I don't have an opinion on who the love of his life was, because it really doesn't matter. That part of his life was his private joy and really isn't our business. It doesn't matter who the love of his life was, because he lived his life his way and ultimately he wasn't with any of them at the end; ex-wives nor ex-girlfriends. And personally, I don't want to imagine Prince as someone who spent his life pining away over a woman. That is a painful experience and I don't wish that on him (or anyone for that matter).



nod That's right. They all had their time with him and their time ended when he moved on to someone else.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #107 posted 08/17/17 6:58am

PennyPurple

I don't think she sounded to happy with WB.

Reply #108 posted 08/17/17 8:09am

purplefam99

benni said:

 



Purplebflogirl said:


In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.


Umm, no, we all didn't know the answer to that.  And again, it was her "opinion" which doesn't mean it was fact.  Too often people confuse opinion with fact.  I accept that her opinion was Denise was the love of his life, but the only one that can truly answer that is Prince, himself.  I don't have an opinion on who the love of his life was, because it really doesn't matter.  That part of his life was his private joy and really isn't our business.  It doesn't matter who the love of his life was, because he lived his life his way and ultimately he wasn't with any of them at the end; ex-wives nor ex-girlfriends.  And personally, I don't want to imagine Prince as someone who spent his life pining away over a woman.  That is a painful experience and I don't wish that on him (or anyone for that matter). 



But if you listen to music he is pining away, we hear it... that was it... right before us.
Reply #109 posted 08/17/17 8:15am

purplefam99

luvgirl said:

 



Purplebflogirl said:


In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.

 


Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin  Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...

[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]



I think no matter what good or bad family knows you best, even if your at odds with family they are the people who know your good and bad the best. They likely experienced our good and bad. They are the ones with access. Access counts or else we wouldn't have tuned in for her answers. Best.
Reply #110 posted 08/17/17 8:47am

nelcp777

PennyPurple said:

I don't think she sounded to happy with WB.

I got that vide too. I also got the impression that WB has total control over their releases, how long is not known as the details of the contract are not public.

I guess the PR remaster did not take into account Prince's inputs. This is total speculation from Sharon's comments.

Reply #111 posted 08/17/17 9:53am

Angele

Rebeljuice:

Q: But if you can, please could you tell us about what you know regarding the months prior to Prince's passing and what he was dealing with? There is so much congecture, tabloid gossip and general confusion surrounding everything that a first hand account would help to clear things up and, no doubt, provide closure to many. I guess in a nutshell my question is: What on earth happened and why?

A: Believe me, we all will find out the truth!

What do yall think this means??????

Reply #112 posted 08/17/17 10:15am

purplefam99

Angele said:

Rebeljuice:

Q: But if you can, please could you tell us about what you know regarding the months prior to Prince's passing and what he was dealing with? There is so much congecture, tabloid gossip and general confusion surrounding everything that a first hand account would help to clear things up and, no doubt, provide closure to many. I guess in a nutshell my question is: What on earth happened and why?

A: Believe me, we all will find out the truth!

What do yall think this means??????

that she believes the truth will eventually be revealed.

Reply #113 posted 08/17/17 10:16am

morningsong

Part II was awesome. Now I can shut up some, I just mean some, of my brattiness.


“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #114 posted 08/17/17 10:22am

annalizer

Q&A From ORG Interview Sharon Nelson- Part 11

Q: Benni: What was it like for your brother growing up....?

A: Don’t believe everything that you hear, rumours are just that, Prince never followed rules, he did what he wanted, when he wanted even as a youth. He had a plan and didn’t care about the consequences.

My earlier take/opinion on his childhood during the Rise and Fall book club on 4/30/17 reply #74

I agree with all you. Also, it seemed to me that Prince had more of a huge support group that did their best to help him with his anger issues after the divorce. I know it may seem that his parents were careless in allowing him to stay at Andres' because she wasn't fond of him at the time, as Andre stated in an interview that when he would try to play with Prince his mom would always find something for him to do because Andre was hardheaded). I think it was a trial to gauge how it would work to maybe bring him some peace and allowed him to stay due to the positive effect it had on him, but his parents were always there. Although Prince sort of cleared up the public image of his relationship with his parents by admitting his anger issues that were perceived by him in his youth as abandonment were nothing more than his parents, teachers, BB coach, managers and record execs, trying to help discipline and guide him but he, unbeknownst to those helping him, being a natural born leader, rebelled against anyone he perceived as too restrictive, including his parents.

I'm glad this question was asked because it clears up the confusion of who he really was. I think this may have been some of the issues with his father who knew the picture of the events Prince allowed to be painted, never fully admitted at that time, his own responsibility.
Reply #115 posted 08/17/17 10:51am

benni

purplefam99 said:

benni said:


Umm, no, we all didn't know the answer to that. And again, it was her "opinion" which doesn't mean it was fact. Too often people confuse opinion with fact. I accept that her opinion was Denise was the love of his life, but the only one that can truly answer that is Prince, himself. I don't have an opinion on who the love of his life was, because it really doesn't matter. That part of his life was his private joy and really isn't our business. It doesn't matter who the love of his life was, because he lived his life his way and ultimately he wasn't with any of them at the end; ex-wives nor ex-girlfriends. And personally, I don't want to imagine Prince as someone who spent his life pining away over a woman. That is a painful experience and I don't wish that on him (or anyone for that matter).

But if you listen to music he is pining away, we hear it... that was it... right before us.


I don't think he was. He was a musician, performer, actor....he was there to put on a terrific show. And if you cling to her answer as the end all be all in confirming everything that a few are wanting to state here on this site, then you definitely have to give credit to her response here:


A: Prince wasn’t a big conflict person; he didn’t spend a lot of time dwelling on things if they didn’t work out.

In other words, Prince was not someone who would pine away for a love interest that didn't work out.

Or this answer:

Prince never followed rules, he did what he wanted, when he wanted even as a youth. He had a plan and didn’t care about the consequences.

Or this:


Absolutely not, he never expressed regrets and he did what he wanted to do

From her answers of who Prince was, how he responded to conflict and other aspects of his, Prince was just simply not one to pine away for anyone. If he wanted to be with Denise, Prince would be someone who would not take "no" for an answer and would have moved heaven and earth to be with that person. That drive, that inability to take "no" for an answer, is what drove him through is career and it would also have driven him in his relationships. Prince did what Prince wanted to do and always moved forwards. He was not one to look backwards. And I think there is a biblical reason why he would not look back. If you read the Bible, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot's wife looked back and turned to a pillar of salt. If you know anything about Prince, it is how deeply he believed in Bible and how hard (especially in his later years) he tried to follow the teachings in the Bible. I think that is one that would have stayed with him.


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Reply #116 posted 08/17/17 10:54am

purplefam99

annalizer said:

Q&A From ORG Interview Sharon Nelson- Part 11 Q: Benni: What was it like for your brother growing up....? A: Don’t believe everything that you hear, rumours are just that, Prince never followed rules, he did what he wanted, when he wanted even as a youth. He had a plan and didn’t care about the consequences. My earlier take/opinion on his childhood during the Rise and Fall book club on 4/30/17 reply #74 I agree with all you. Also, it seemed to me that Prince had more of a huge support group that did their best to help him with his anger issues after the divorce. I know it may seem that his parents were careless in allowing him to stay at Andres' because she wasn't fond of him at the time, as Andre stated in an interview that when he would try to play with Prince his mom would always find something for him to do because Andre was hardheaded). I think it was a trial to gauge how it would work to maybe bring him some peace and allowed him to stay due to the positive effect it had on him, but his parents were always there. Although Prince sort of cleared up the public image of his relationship with his parents by admitting his anger issues that were perceived by him in his youth as abandonment were nothing more than his parents, teachers, BB coach, managers and record execs, trying to help discipline and guide him but he, unbeknownst to those helping him, being a natural born leader, rebelled against anyone he perceived as too restrictive, including his parents. I'm glad this question was asked because it clears up the confusion of who he really was. I think this may have been some of the issues with his father who knew the picture of the events Prince allowed to be painted, never fully admitted at that time, his own responsibility.

this is certainly plausible.

Reply #117 posted 08/17/17 10:58am

purplefam99

benni said:

purplefam99 said:

benni said: But if you listen to music he is pining away, we hear it... that was it... right before us.


I don't think he was. He was a musician, performer, actor....he was there to put on a terrific show. And if you cling to her answer as the end all be all in confirming everything that a few are wanting to state here on this site, then you definitely have to give credit to her response here:


A: Prince wasn’t a big conflict person; he didn’t spend a lot of time dwelling on things if they didn’t work out.

In other words, Prince was not someone who would pine away for a love interest that didn't work out.

Or this answer:

Prince never followed rules, he did what he wanted, when he wanted even as a youth. He had a plan and didn’t care about the consequences.

Or this:


Absolutely not, he never expressed regrets and he did what he wanted to do

From her answers of who Prince was, how he responded to conflict and other aspects of his, Prince was just simply not one to pine away for anyone. If he wanted to be with Denise, Prince would be someone who would not take "no" for an answer and would have moved heaven and earth to be with that person. That drive, that inability to take "no" for an answer, is what drove him through is career and it would also have driven him in his relationships. Prince did what Prince wanted to do and always moved forwards. He was not one to look backwards. And I think there is a biblical reason why he would not look back. If you read the Bible, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot's wife looked back and turned to a pillar of salt. If you know anything about Prince, it is how deeply he believed in Bible and how hard (especially in his later years) he tried to follow the teachings in the Bible. I think that is one that would have stayed with him.


and she said he was quiet. i don't think he SPOKE these things at all ever, i do think he FELT them.

if he didn't then he surley wasn't human or of this world.

Reply #118 posted 08/17/17 11:10am

benni

purplefam99 said:

benni said:


I don't think he was. He was a musician, performer, actor....he was there to put on a terrific show. And if you cling to her answer as the end all be all in confirming everything that a few are wanting to state here on this site, then you definitely have to give credit to her response here:


A: Prince wasn’t a big conflict person; he didn’t spend a lot of time dwelling on things if they didn’t work out.

In other words, Prince was not someone who would pine away for a love interest that didn't work out.

Or this answer:

Prince never followed rules, he did what he wanted, when he wanted even as a youth. He had a plan and didn’t care about the consequences.

Or this:


Absolutely not, he never expressed regrets and he did what he wanted to do

From her answers of who Prince was, how he responded to conflict and other aspects of his, Prince was just simply not one to pine away for anyone. If he wanted to be with Denise, Prince would be someone who would not take "no" for an answer and would have moved heaven and earth to be with that person. That drive, that inability to take "no" for an answer, is what drove him through is career and it would also have driven him in his relationships. Prince did what Prince wanted to do and always moved forwards. He was not one to look backwards. And I think there is a biblical reason why he would not look back. If you read the Bible, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot's wife looked back and turned to a pillar of salt. If you know anything about Prince, it is how deeply he believed in Bible and how hard (especially in his later years) he tried to follow the teachings in the Bible. I think that is one that would have stayed with him.


and she said he was quiet. i don't think he SPOKE these things at all ever, i do think he FELT them.

if he didn't then he surley wasn't human or of this world.


Why would you want to think he felt them? Not everyone lives with regret in their lives. Not everyone looks back and clings to past loves. I have no regrets in my life, but one, and that is that I haven't written the great American novel yet - but there is still time. I have no regrets about my past relationships, about how they worked out. I don't pine away over my long lost love, though I will admit that I did in my youth, but with maturity comes understanding and a release of such things. And I can assure you, I am definitely human and definitely of this world.

Don't try to place Prince in some box that you can identify with, because he won't fit in that box. Just appreciate who he was and what he gave the world. His past relationships are over and done with and there will be no more relationships. And, as I said before, I would hate to imagine him pining away after a long lost love, because that hurts like crazy, and I don't want to imagine him hurting.

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
Reply #119 posted 08/17/17 11:52am

kingricefan

Well, Sharon answered my question about her favorite memory of Prince as a child so I'm a happy camper! She gave her opinion on who was Prince's love of his life and I tend to agree with her. This part of the questionaire seems to be more upbeat and in a happier tone than the 1st part. I think she's not very happy with WB at this time either. I hope that she and the rest of the family will be able to make some headway with what is going to be released in the near future. I am saddened that Prince's passing shocked her (and other family members) as it did the rest of us. I assumed after Tyka's statements ('I've known for 2 years') that the other members of the family knew something was up with his health. It is very touching that Sharon said that it's still hard for her to see grieving fans. I'm happy that she says that Prince knew how much he was loved by us all! Thank you Sharon for answering my question and giving me another little glance at the man who is such a huge part of my life and soul!!!!

Reply #120 posted 08/17/17 1:24pm

laurarichardson

MMJas said:

Well, from Part Two I got the impression she is as much shocked and in need of answers regarding his death as we are...


--Charles Smith his cousin has voiced similar concerns via his social media. I think the family is frustrated with investigation just like the fans.
Reply #121 posted 08/17/17 1:30pm

purplefam99

benni said:

purplefam99 said:

and she said he was quiet. i don't think he SPOKE these things at all ever, i do think he FELT them.

if he didn't then he surley wasn't human or of this world.


Why would you want to think he felt them? Not everyone lives with regret in their lives. Not everyone looks back and clings to past loves. I have no regrets in my life, but one, and that is that I haven't written the great American novel yet - but there is still time. I have no regrets about my past relationships, about how they worked out. I don't pine away over my long lost love, though I will admit that I did in my youth, but with maturity comes understanding and a release of such things. And I can assure you, I am definitely human and definitely of this world.

Don't try to place Prince in some box that you can identify with, because he won't fit in that box. Just appreciate who he was and what he gave the world. His past relationships are over and done with and there will be no more relationships. And, as I said before, I would hate to imagine him pining away after a long lost love, because that hurts like crazy, and I don't want to imagine him hurting.

we are human and looking back is a component of that as natural as breathing. you say you don't, then admit

to doing it, having regrets. i'm not saying he sat around all day long having them, i don't think that

but i do believe he did have moments of reflection. i don't think he spoke of them often cause i don't feel he was verbal like that often, but i think on occasion he probably could be. he pined in the best possible way through creavtive energy, but i think SOME of that was pining away. i liked it cause it touched me. i don't

think all those gut wrenching songs came from a blank slate of a man, making it all up. i think

that was him dwelling on his life, pain and stresses and made it into art, music, song. a very basic example of him looking back would be his WB contract, he looked back and said hey i regret i signed those papers giving the rights of my music away, i am gonna spend the next period here

dwelling on this issue until they set me free.

i don't want my words to come to you as an attempt to diminish your pain and grief, that is not

my intent.

Reply #122 posted 08/17/17 2:15pm

dippydippywaveofmydo

"There will be an exhibition in October at the O2 arena, it’s quite possible the books may be available"

Anyone have any information about this???
The Sampler Set is great!
Reply #123 posted 08/17/17 2:16pm

poppys

kingricefan said:

Well, Sharon answered my question about her favorite memory of Prince as a child so I'm a happy camper! She gave her opinion on who was Prince's love of his life and I tend to agree with her. This part of the questionaire seems to be more upbeat and in a happier tone than the 1st part. I think she's not very happy with WB at this time either. I hope that she and the rest of the family will be able to make some headway with what is going to be released in the near future. I am saddened that Prince's passing shocked her (and other family members) as it did the rest of us. I assumed after Tyka's statements ('I've known for 2 years') that the other members of the family knew something was up with his health. It is very touching that Sharon said that it's still hard for her to see grieving fans. I'm happy that she says that Prince knew how much he was loved by us all! Thank you Sharon for answering my question and giving me another little glance at the man who is such a huge part of my life and soul!!!!

That was a good question and I loved the answer!

If your last December came, what would u do?
Reply #124 posted 08/17/17 2:39pm

kingricefan

Thank you! I had a million questions but most of them were already asked and I didn't want to repeat what others had posted. I'm very glad that she took/is taking the time to answer what the fans have asked. Her answer to my question sheds even more light on how generous Prince was even at such a young age. She thought he'd be partying or lounging around doing nothing when she wasn't there and here he was helping fledgling musicians get their grooves on!

poppys said:

kingricefan said:

Well, Sharon answered my question about her favorite memory of Prince as a child so I'm a happy camper! She gave her opinion on who was Prince's love of his life and I tend to agree with her. This part of the questionaire seems to be more upbeat and in a happier tone than the 1st part. I think she's not very happy with WB at this time either. I hope that she and the rest of the family will be able to make some headway with what is going to be released in the near future. I am saddened that Prince's passing shocked her (and other family members) as it did the rest of us. I assumed after Tyka's statements ('I've known for 2 years') that the other members of the family knew something was up with his health. It is very touching that Sharon said that it's still hard for her to see grieving fans. I'm happy that she says that Prince knew how much he was loved by us all! Thank you Sharon for answering my question and giving me another little glance at the man who is such a huge part of my life and soul!!!!

That was a good question and I loved the answer!

Reply #125 posted 08/17/17 3:07pm

benni

purplefam99 said:

benni said:


Why would you want to think he felt them? Not everyone lives with regret in their lives. Not everyone looks back and clings to past loves. I have no regrets in my life, but one, and that is that I haven't written the great American novel yet - but there is still time. I have no regrets about my past relationships, about how they worked out. I don't pine away over my long lost love, though I will admit that I did in my youth, but with maturity comes understanding and a release of such things. And I can assure you, I am definitely human and definitely of this world.

Don't try to place Prince in some box that you can identify with, because he won't fit in that box. Just appreciate who he was and what he gave the world. His past relationships are over and done with and there will be no more relationships. And, as I said before, I would hate to imagine him pining away after a long lost love, because that hurts like crazy, and I don't want to imagine him hurting.

we are human and looking back is a component of that as natural as breathing. you say you don't, then admit

to doing it, having regrets. i'm not saying he sat around all day long having them, i don't think that

but i do believe he did have moments of reflection. i don't think he spoke of them often cause i don't feel he was verbal like that often, but i think on occasion he probably could be. he pined in the best possible way through creavtive energy, but i think SOME of that was pining away. i liked it cause it touched me. i don't

think all those gut wrenching songs came from a blank slate of a man, making it all up. i think

that was him dwelling on his life, pain and stresses and made it into art, music, song. a very basic example of him looking back would be his WB contract, he looked back and said hey i regret i signed those papers giving the rights of my music away, i am gonna spend the next period here

dwelling on this issue until they set me free.

i don't want my words to come to you as an attempt to diminish your pain and grief, that is not

my intent.


lol - my saying my one regret was not writing the great American novel was just me being facetious, an attempt at a joke, as it were. I have no regrets in my life. Everything that has happened in my life has brought me to where I am right now, and I am very happy with this space and time.

Yes, it is natural to look back and reflect, but that does not indicate "pining" and I have not heard any music from Prince that would indicate that he was "pining away" for someone. Yes, creative people tend to draw from their own lives, or the lives of those around them. However, as she said regarding "Sister" Prince had a very active imagination and could put that out there in song, too.

And how would your words diminish my pain and grief? And what pain and grief are you talking about? No where in my post did I even say anything about pain or grief. eek

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
Reply #126 posted 08/17/17 3:15pm

dance4me3121

Someone mentioned that the Twitter pic of Prince with tear dripping from his eye was posted the day he passed but I seem to remember that Twitter pic being his avatar pic for about a month.am I right on this?
Reply #127 posted 08/17/17 3:23pm

Purplebflogirl

luvgirl said:

 



Purplebflogirl said:


In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.

 


Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin  Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...

[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]


smile.
Until the end of time
Reply #128 posted 08/17/17 3:23pm

purplefam99

benni said:

 



purplefam99 said:


 



benni said:


 



Why would you want to think he felt them?  Not everyone lives with regret in their lives.  Not everyone looks back and clings to past loves.  I have no regrets in my life, but one, and that is that I haven't written the great American novel yet - but there is still time.  I have no regrets about my past relationships, about how they worked out.  I don't pine away over my long lost love, though I will admit that I did in my youth, but with maturity comes understanding and a release of such things.  And I can assure you, I am definitely human and definitely of this world. 

Don't try to place Prince in some box that you can identify with, because he won't fit in that box.  Just appreciate who he was and what he gave the world.  His past relationships are over and done with and there will be no more relationships.  And, as I said before, I would hate to imagine him pining away after a long lost love, because that hurts like crazy, and I don't want to imagine him hurting. 



we are human and looking back is a component of that as natural as  breathing.  you say you don't, then admit


to doing it,  having regrets.  i'm not saying he sat around all day long having them, i don't think that


but i do believe he did have moments of reflection.  i don't think he spoke of them often cause i don't feel he was verbal like that often, but i think on occasion he probably could be.  he pined in the best possible way through creavtive energy, but i think SOME of that was pining away.  i liked it cause it touched me.  i don't


think all those gut wrenching songs came from a blank slate of a man, making it all up.  i think


that was him dwelling on his life, pain and stresses and made it into art, music, song. a very basic example of him looking back would be his WB contract, he looked back and said hey i regret i signed those papers giving the rights of my music away, i am gonna spend the next period here


dwelling on this issue until they set me free. 


i don't want my words to come to you as an attempt to diminish your pain and grief, that is not


my intent.




lol - my saying my one regret was not writing the great American novel was just me being facetious, an attempt at a joke, as it were.  I have no regrets in my life.  Everything that has happened in my life has brought me to where I am right now, and I am very happy with this space and time. 

Yes, it is natural to look back and reflect, but that does not indicate "pining" and I have not heard any music from Prince that would indicate that he was "pining away" for someone.  Yes, creative people tend to draw from their own lives, or the lives of those around them.  However, as she said regarding "Sister" Prince had a very active imagination and could put that out there in song, too. 

And how would your words diminish my pain and grief?  And what pain and grief are you talking about?  No where in my post did I even say anything about pain or grief.  eek



Ok, best!
Reply #129 posted 08/17/17 3:30pm

benni

dance4me3121 said:

Someone mentioned that the Twitter pic of Prince with tear dripping from his eye was posted the day he passed but I seem to remember that Twitter pic being his avatar pic for about a month.am I right on this?


I was thinking it went up when he cancelled the Atlanta shows on the 7th, because people were commenting on it at that time. Also, I read an article about the caretaker of the Fox Theater passing away on the 7th of April, and had thought the tear was for that.

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
Reply #130 posted 08/17/17 3:41pm

Lovejunky

Q: What is your ideal scenario for continuing his legacy?

A: Having us heirs controlling the estate through management we develop, this would allow us to bring out his new music on a platform that is similar to the NPG Music Club or a indie label that is run by us, owning our own business.

This would mean no limitations, nobody trying to control what we can and cannot do, thus allowing us to give the fans what they want, generate income, support charities, and not continue to waste money on all the ongoing frivolous litigation.

yes

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #131 posted 08/17/17 5:26pm

NotACleverName

benni said:


Purplebflogirl said: In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.

Umm, no, we all didn't know the answer to that.  And again, it was her "opinion" which doesn't mean it was fact.  Too often people confuse opinion with fact.  I accept that her opinion was Denise was the love of his life, but the only one that can truly answer that is Prince, himself.  I don't have an opinion on who the love of his life was, because it really doesn't matter.  That part of his life was his private joy and really isn't our business.  It doesn't matter who the love of his life was, because he lived his life his way and ultimately he wasn't with any of them at the end; ex-wives nor ex-girlfriends.  And personally, I don't want to imagine Prince as someone who spent his life pining away over a woman.  That is a painful experience and I don't wish that on him (or anyone for that matter).


I agree, benni. You have echoed my thoughts regarding this "opinion". I suspect if we were to ask other family members of Prince the answer to this question, we would be presented with differing opinions. Just like the many opposing opinions of org members! However, as you mentioned, Prince is the only person who can provide "the answer to the question of who".

"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
Reply #132 posted 08/17/17 5:31pm

luvsexy4all

Lovejunky said:

Q: What is your ideal scenario for continuing his legacy?

A: Having us heirs controlling the estate through management we develop, this would allow us to bring out his new music on a platform that is similar to the NPG Music Club or a indie label that is run by us, owning our own business.

This would mean no limitations, nobody trying to control what we can and cannot do, thus allowing us to give the fans what they want, generate income, support charities, and not continue to waste money on all the ongoing frivolous litigation.

yes

magnificent answer !!!

Reply #133 posted 08/17/17 5:34pm

206Michelle

luvgirl said:

 



Purplebflogirl said:


In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.

 


Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin  Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...

[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]


I'm totally being a newsy fan when I say this, but I would love for Sharon to further elaborate on her comment regarding Denise, particularly if he was still in love with her after the divorce from Mani and in the last years of his life. I know that he loved Denise greatly. Some fans believe he never got over Denise and some believe that he moved on from her. His music indicates that he dearly loved Mayte and then Mani. But I wonder, Did his feelings for Denise resurface after the second divorce?
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #134 posted 08/17/17 5:43pm

Lovejunky

luvsexy4all said:

Lovejunky said:

Q: What is your ideal scenario for continuing his legacy?

A: Having us heirs controlling the estate through management we develop, this would allow us to bring out his new music on a platform that is similar to the NPG Music Club or a indie label that is run by us, owning our own business.

This would mean no limitations, nobody trying to control what we can and cannot do, thus allowing us to give the fans what they want, generate income, support charities, and not continue to waste money on all the ongoing frivolous litigation.

yes

magnificent answer !!!

Yep...SHows REAL INTELLIGENCE...

That was the best answer of the entire Q and A Session in my opinion...

apart from her saying that The Family Always knew he had something special from the time he was a little kid,

(In response to a question about whether his persona and Mysterious image was Cultivated)

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #135 posted 08/17/17 5:44pm

206Michelle

SchlomoThaHomo said:

She made a point to draw a line between the heirs and the estate, divulging that they had no say in regards to estate matters. I found this confusing. I thought the heirs WERE the estate. And who is the estate if not the heirs, why do the heirs have no say, who is/are making the current estate decisions, and who authorized whomever is making the current decisions to do so? Why is the family asking fans what they would like to see released if they have no say in what gets released?

She also said to not hold our breath in regards to remasters but didn't elaborate. These seem like the easiest and most obvious choices for posthumous releases, but she implied otherwise. So what's the problem?


I was wondering about the relationship between the heirs and the Estate as well. Based on my limited time understanding of probate law, an Estate usually has an executor. For the estate of a wealthy person, there may be an administrator. Of course, different states have different laws. Comerica, and previously Bremer, have been the administrators of the PRN Estate, as we know. I thought that the heirs (siblings) had a lot of input into what happens, but it sounds like they have less input than I thought.
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #136 posted 08/17/17 5:58pm

206Michelle

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Well, from Part Two I got the impression she is as much shocked and in need of answers regarding his death as we are...


--Charles Smith his cousin has voiced similar concerns via his social media. I think the family is frustrated with investigation just like the fans.

I agree Laura. However, Sharon says his death shocked her while Tyka has said or suggested that she knew his death was coming/his death was not a shock to her. II don't quite know what to make of the difference of opinion between Sharon and Tyka. I have no reason to doubt either of their opinions about how expected/unexpected his death was. I think they are giving their honest opinions. I just wonder if the difference of opinion has to do with Tyka being closer to Prince (emotionally and geographically) or something else?
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #137 posted 08/17/17 6:03pm

206Michelle

Lovejunky said:


Q: What is your ideal scenario for continuing his legacy?


 


A: Having us heirs controlling the estate through management we develop, this would allow us to bring out his new music on a platform that is similar to the NPG Music Club or a indie label that is run by us, owning our own business.


This would mean no limitations, nobody trying to control what we can and cannot do, thus allowing us to give the fans what they want, generate income, support charities, and not continue to waste money on all the ongoing frivolous litigation.



 


 


 


yes


I second that yes, Lovejunky!
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #138 posted 08/17/17 6:17pm

Lovejunky

206Michelle said:

laurarichardson said:
--Charles Smith his cousin has voiced similar concerns via his social media. I think the family is frustrated with investigation just like the fans.
I agree Laura. However, Sharon says his death shocked her while Tyka has said or suggested that she knew his death was coming/his death was not a shock to her. II don't quite know what to make of the difference of opinion between Sharon and Tyka. I have no reason to doubt either of their opinions about how expected/unexpected his death was. I think they are giving their honest opinions. I just wonder if the difference of opinion has to do with Tyka being closer to Prince (emotionally and geographically) or something else?

I know you didnt address me, but Im going to say yes..

If its true that Tyka knew something that Sharon didnt.

.its most definately because Tyka was around a LOT more than Sharon...

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #139 posted 08/17/17 6:28pm

laurarichardson

206Michelle said:

laurarichardson said:


--Charles Smith his cousin has voiced similar concerns via his social media. I think the family is frustrated with investigation just like the fans.

I agree Laura. However, Sharon says his death shocked her while Tyka has said or suggested that she knew his death was coming/his death was not a shock to her. II don't quite know what to make of the difference of opinion between Sharon and Tyka. I have no reason to doubt either of their opinions about how expected/unexpected his death was. I think they are giving their honest opinions. I just wonder if the difference of opinion has to do with Tyka being closer to Prince (emotionally and geographically) or something else?

--Sharon lived in New York so she just may not have known what was going on. I think Tyka knows quiet a bit more than she has said and with time we will find out more.
Reply #140 posted 08/17/17 6:30pm

laurarichardson

206Michelle said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

She made a point to draw a line between the heirs and the estate, divulging that they had no say in regards to estate matters. I found this confusing. I thought the heirs WERE the estate. And who is the estate if not the heirs, why do the heirs have no say, who is/are making the current estate decisions, and who authorized whomever is making the current decisions to do so? Why is the family asking fans what they would like to see released if they have no say in what gets released?

She also said to not hold our breath in regards to remasters but didn't elaborate. These seem like the easiest and most obvious choices for posthumous releases, but she implied otherwise. So what's the problem?


I was wondering about the relationship between the heirs and the Estate as well. Based on my limited time understanding of probate law, an Estate usually has an executor. For the estate of a wealthy person, there may be an administrator. Of course, different states have different laws. Comerica, and previously Bremer, have been the administrators of the PRN Estate, as we know. I thought that the heirs (siblings) had a lot of input into what happens, but it sounds like they have less input than I thought.

-Once the probate is done the subs will inherit which they have not been able to do yet. Once they inherit it appears they want to use the business structure that is in place to continue on independently which seems like a great idea.
Reply #141 posted 08/17/17 6:32pm

laurarichardson

206Michelle said:

luvgirl said:

 



Purplebflogirl said:


In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.

 


Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin  Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...

[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]


I'm totally being a newsy fan when I say this, but I would love for Sharon to further elaborate on her comment regarding Denise, particularly if he was still in love with her after the divorce from Mani and in the last years of his life. I know that he loved Denise greatly. Some fans believe he never got over Denise and some believe that he moved on from her. His music indicates that he dearly loved Mayte and then Mani. But I wonder, Did his feelings for Denise resurface after the second divorce?

--According to Vanity's brother in law they two of them stayed in touch until 2012 with letters and e-mails.
Reply #142 posted 08/17/17 7:03pm

206Michelle

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said:


I agree Laura. However, Sharon says his death shocked her while Tyka has said or suggested that she knew his death was coming/his death was not a shock to her. II don't quite know what to make of the difference of opinion between Sharon and Tyka. I have no reason to doubt either of their opinions about how expected/unexpected his death was. I think they are giving their honest opinions. I just wonder if the difference of opinion has to do with Tyka being closer to Prince (emotionally and geographically) or something else?

--Sharon lived in New York so she just may not have known what was going on. I think Tyka knows quiet a bit more than she has said and with time we will find out more.

yes I feel the same way.
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #143 posted 08/17/17 8:35pm

Purplebflogirl

purplefam99 said:

luvgirl said:

 



Purplebflogirl said:


In Part2 she answered a question that I think we all knew the answer to..In her opinion Denise was the love of his life.I believed that forever..She left him,he chose wives that looked similar to her..He stayed in contact with her.. Something he did not do normally with his exes.They are together in Heaven.

 


Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin  Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...

[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]



I think no matter what good or bad family knows you best, even if your at odds with family they are the people who know your good and bad the best. They likely experienced our good and bad. They are the ones with access. Access counts or else we wouldn't have tuned in for her answers. Best.

My thoughts exactly
Until the end of time
Reply #144 posted 08/17/17 8:52pm

Purplebflogirl

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said:


I'm totally being a newsy fan when I say this, but I would love for Sharon to further elaborate on her comment regarding Denise, particularly if he was still in love with her after the divorce from Mani and in the last years of his life. I know that he loved Denise greatly. Some fans believe he never got over Denise and some believe that he moved on from her. His music indicates that he dearly loved Mayte and then Mani. But I wonder, Did his feelings for Denise resurface after the second divorce?

--According to Vanity's brother in law they two of them stayed in touch until 2012 with letters and e-mails.

What I don't understand is...Why is it so hard for some people to believe Denise was the love of his life? Even M1 mentioned in her book that he told herwhen Denise decided not to be in PR he was devastated.He did not keep in touch with his ex wives..He may of realized it would not work in this lifetime with Denise..But he cared enough about her to keep in touch with her..And when she died he was quite upset as per the thousands who witnessed his concert that night.I don't think he lived a miserable life,crying daily when they broke up but obviously he loved her very much.
[Edited 8/17/17 20:55pm]
Until the end of time
Reply #145 posted 08/17/17 9:07pm

ChanGirl

Everyone has had a true love, and Denise was his. It's obvious, really. Denise was close in age, similar backgrounds. Both driven but unfortunately too much alike so it couldn't work. She had conditions Prince just couldn't meet, especially after her conversion. According to Toban, over time Prince tried to reconcile with her more than once but she refused to be anything more than friends. No one came close to being on the same level as Prince like she was, sad to say.

You know Prince wasn't no damn drug addict !
Reply #146 posted 08/17/17 9:27pm

Purplebflogirl

ChanGirl said:

Everyone has had a true love, and Denise was his. It's obvious, really. Denise was close in age, similar backgrounds. Both driven but unfortunately too much alike so it couldn't work. She had conditions Prince just couldn't meet, especially after her conversion. According to Toban, over time Prince tried to reconcile with her more than once but she refused to be anything more than friends. No one came close to being on the same level as Prince like she was, sad to say.


I agree
Until the end of time
Reply #147 posted 08/17/17 9:33pm

purplefam99

Purplebflogirl said:

ChanGirl said:

Everyone has had a true love, and Denise was his. It's obvious, really. Denise was close in age, similar backgrounds. Both driven but unfortunately too much alike so it couldn't work. She had conditions Prince just couldn't meet, especially after her conversion. According to Toban, over time Prince tried to reconcile with her more than once but she refused to be anything more than friends. No one came close to being on the same level as Prince like she was, sad to say.


I agree


I agree as well, I think he had some lifemates but I think she may have
Been his soulmate.
Reply #148 posted 08/17/17 11:12pm

Vashtix

206Michelle said:

luvgirl said:

Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...

[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]

I'm totally being a newsy fan when I say this, but I would love for Sharon to further elaborate on her comment regarding Denise, particularly if he was still in love with her after the divorce from Mani and in the last years of his life. I know that he loved Denise greatly. Some fans believe he never got over Denise and some believe that he moved on from her. His music indicates that he dearly loved Mayte and then Mani. But I wonder, Did his feelings for Denise resurface after the second divorce?

You learn to live with what life brings. You move on but your heart never totally leaves the first love and I think he and Denise remained friends over the decades. I think they were 2 people whose lives paralleled each other. I think the feelings were never packed away just evolved into a deep respect and friendship.

Reply #149 posted 08/18/17 2:13am

Rebeljuice

The most revealing things from part II for me are:

1) how little input the heirs seem to have regarding business decisions this late in the game.

2) How WB and the heirs seem to have very little common interest and do not seem to be on the same page.

3) How she may be as in the dark about the circumstances surrounding his death as the rest of us.

4) The heirs (or at least Sharon's) ideas going forward regarding the music is reasuring.

5) I found it a little worrying that she says they want to maintain Prince's ideals regarding swearing etc. She even seemed to imply disapointment in WB for releasing We Can Fuck. I hope this doesn't mean a whole bunch of songs will remain unreleased because the lyrics are less than clean.

Reply #150 posted 08/18/17 2:24am

databank

I'm extremely pleased to learn that Sharon and the other heirs seem to wish to get off the majors' boat, then self-release a great quantity of what's in the vault thru an indie label and an NPGMC type of site. This is quite reassuring and if things are to go that way, I can only wish for the heirs to get control of the estate soon. If anything, Ms. Nelson seems to be a very sensible person. I hope this interview will restore a sense of trust in the Nelson family's capacity to run things properly.

.

The only thing that bothers me is the part about not releasing material that "Prince would not have wanted released", because for one thing I find it hard to decide when exactly one should draw that that line, and as Sharon herself said, Prince changing his ways doesn't mean that what had existed does not exist anymore. My belief is that everything can and should be released on the long run: Prince's body of work makes it clear that he had changed his perspective and his later work is a testimony to that, so I fail to see why releasing earlier work with profanity or outrageous content is disrespectful to him as long as the listener is informed of when such material was recorded. Hell, save maybe those 2 infamous rape lines, I fail to see how anything could be worse than Sister, Head, Darling Nikki or The Black Album. However I am not the person in charge, neither did I know Prince personally, so this is just my opinion for what it's worth.

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
Reply #151 posted 08/18/17 4:21am

laurarichardson

Purplebflogirl said:

laurarichardson said:
--According to Vanity's brother in law they two of them stayed in touch until 2012 with letters and e-mails.
What I don't understand is...Why is it so hard for some people to believe Denise was the love of his life? Even M1 mentioned in her book that he told herwhen Denise decided not to be in PR he was devastated.He did not keep in touch with his ex wives..He may of realized it would not work in this lifetime with Denise..But he cared enough about her to keep in touch with her..And when she died he was quite upset as per the thousands who witnessed his concert that night.I don't think he lived a miserable life,crying daily when they broke up but obviously he loved her very much. [Edited 8/17/17 20:55pm]

Because people are delusional and really do not pay attention to anything.

They want him to be what they want him to be. Not a brother who had a sister take his breath away.

It is no different than Sharon is now a becon of hope despite that fact that SNJ Inc ( why set up a separate corporation from the other siblings) retains Londell as a business adviors. Everyone knows that he is posion to future business dealings with the estate so I wish her luck if he is going to be involved with future endevors.

It is also no different than numerous people commenting that they belived that the sibs were running things. The probate is still going on so how could the sibs be running anything?

Reply #152 posted 08/18/17 5:22am

milesb

What I got from this is the feeling that we are a looooonnng way off hearing anything from the vault officially released by the Estate. Unfortunately. All parties concerned need to embrace common sense, and get the stuff out there to the fans. Whilst I'm sure Prince's output will be purchased in 1000 years, the optimum time is NOW. Whilst the massive fanbase from his life time is still here...

My password is what
Reply #153 posted 08/18/17 5:58am

benni

Purplebflogirl said:

laurarichardson said:
--According to Vanity's brother in law they two of them stayed in touch until 2012 with letters and e-mails.
What I don't understand is...Why is it so hard for some people to believe Denise was the love of his life? Even M1 mentioned in her book that he told herwhen Denise decided not to be in PR he was devastated.He did not keep in touch with his ex wives..He may of realized it would not work in this lifetime with Denise..But he cared enough about her to keep in touch with her..And when she died he was quite upset as per the thousands who witnessed his concert that night.I don't think he lived a miserable life,crying daily when they broke up but obviously he loved her very much. [Edited 8/17/17 20:55pm]


Umm, not everyone finds it so hard to believe that she might be the love of his life. I have no issue with that. What I take issue with is the idea that Prince spent his life pining away after someone, and the idea that others want him to have pined away after her. Why would anyone want to wish that pain on another?

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
Reply #154 posted 08/18/17 8:12am

laurarichardson

benni said:

Purplebflogirl said:

laurarichardson said: What I don't understand is...Why is it so hard for some people to believe Denise was the love of his life? Even M1 mentioned in her book that he told herwhen Denise decided not to be in PR he was devastated.He did not keep in touch with his ex wives..He may of realized it would not work in this lifetime with Denise..But he cared enough about her to keep in touch with her..And when she died he was quite upset as per the thousands who witnessed his concert that night.I don't think he lived a miserable life,crying daily when they broke up but obviously he loved her very much. [Edited 8/17/17 20:55pm]


Umm, not everyone finds it so hard to believe that she might be the love of his life. I have no issue with that. What I take issue with is the idea that Prince spent his life pining away after someone, and the idea that others want him to have pined away after her. Why would anyone want to wish that pain on another?

We do not know that he was in pain over her. It seems that if he stopped running around maybe they could have been together. We know from her brother in law that she was back with him around the Batman era and left because Kim Bassinger was calling.

Anyone would get tired of that roller coaster ride so she left. If he was in pain he could have stopped the pain by changing his free wheeling lifestyle and not be so stubborn.

Reply #155 posted 08/18/17 8:14am

purplefam99

Vashtix said:

 



206Michelle said:


luvgirl said:

 


 


Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin  Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...


[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]



I'm totally being a newsy fan when I say this, but I would love for Sharon to further elaborate on her comment regarding Denise, particularly if he was still in love with her after the divorce from Mani and in the last years of his life. I know that he loved Denise greatly. Some fans believe he never got over Denise and some believe that he moved on from her. His music indicates that he dearly loved Mayte and then Mani. But I wonder, Did his feelings for Denise resurface after the second divorce?

You learn to live with what life brings. You move on but your heart never totally leaves the first love and I think he and Denise remained friends over the decades. I think they were  2 people whose lives paralleled each other. I think the feelings were never packed away just evolved into a deep respect and friendship.



The best kind of love
Reply #156 posted 08/18/17 8:21am

purplefam99

Rebeljuice said:

The most revealing things from part II for me are:

1) how little input the heirs seem to have regarding business decisions this late in the game.

2) How WB and the heirs seem to have very little common interest and do not seem to be on the same page.

3) How she may be as in the dark about the circumstances surrounding his death as the rest of us.

4) The heirs (or at least Sharon's) ideas going forward regarding the music is reasuring.

5) I found it a little worrying that she says they want to maintain Prince's ideals regarding swearing etc. She even seemed to imply disapointment in WB for releasing We Can Fuck. I hope this doesn't mean a whole bunch of songs will remain unreleased because the lyrics are less than clean.




Just trying to wrap my head around something this is not meant for more than a discussion and maybe I should move it else where. but a lot of fans say prince moved on with his loves and didn't dwell on the past if that is so would it not seem to dishonor his legacy by releasing songs he felt he had moved on from due to there content, lyrics. He obviously moved on from dirty lyrics and said as much. So do you all think that would be dishonoring him by releasing those songs in particular? Thoughts? Mods can move if best.
Reply #157 posted 08/18/17 8:21am

databank

I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...

- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.

- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...

- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.

We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.

And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.

I mean, seriously.

If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.

Just my 2 cents.

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
Reply #158 posted 08/18/17 8:27am

purplefam99

benni said:

 



Purplebflogirl said:


laurarichardson said:
--According to Vanity's brother in law they two of them stayed in touch until 2012 with letters and e-mails.

What I don't understand is...Why is it so hard for some people to believe Denise was the love of his life? Even M1 mentioned in her book that he told herwhen Denise decided not to be in PR he was devastated.He did not keep in touch with his ex wives..He may of realized it would not work in this lifetime with Denise..But he cared enough about her to keep in touch with her..And when she died he was quite upset as per the thousands who witnessed his concert that night.I don't think he lived a miserable life,crying daily when they broke up but obviously he loved her very much. [Edited 8/17/17 20:55pm]


Umm, not everyone finds it so hard to believe that she might be the love of his life.  I have no issue with that.  What I take issue with is the idea that Prince spent his life pining away after someone, and the idea that others want him to have pined away after her.  Why would anyone want to wish that pain on another? 



I think saying that it is possible is not saying we Wanted him to pine.
Reply #159 posted 08/18/17 8:32am

purplefam99

databank said:

I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...


- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.


- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...


- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.


We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.


And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.


I mean, seriously.


If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.


Just my 2 cents. 


 


 


 




Then I'm lost on the whole point of discussion boards. And this is the first one I have ever joined in my entire life.
Reply #160 posted 08/18/17 8:48am

poppys

databank said:

I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...

- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.

- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...

- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.

We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.

And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.

I mean, seriously.

If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.

Just my 2 cents.

Totally get your point, data. Once my brother told me my ex so&so was "the love of my life". He didn't know I caught him in bed with a guy. Family doesn't know EVERYTHING.

[Edited 8/19/17 19:40pm]

If your last December came, what would u do?
Reply #161 posted 08/18/17 9:08am

Mumio

databank said:

I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...

- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.

- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...

- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.

We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.

And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.

I mean, seriously.

If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.

Just my 2 cents.




This is excellent and completely on point nod Thank you.


Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #162 posted 08/18/17 9:33am

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2

Q: Of all the things Prince accomplished in his life, what do u think he would be most proud of?
A: The outpouring of love from his fans when he passed and the release of The John L. Nelson Project.



This was a very interesting answer...as both things happened after he passed...and I don't think prince was involved in the release of his fathers material?
Reply #163 posted 08/18/17 9:36am

206Michelle

Rebeljuice said:

The most revealing things from part II for me are:

1) how little input the heirs seem to have regarding business decisions this late in the game.

2) How WB and the heirs seem to have very little common interest and do not seem to be on the same page.

3) How she may be as in the dark about the circumstances surrounding his death as the rest of us.

4) The heirs (or at least Sharon's) ideas going forward regarding the music is reasuring.

5) I found it a little worrying that she says they want to maintain Prince's ideals regarding swearing etc. She even seemed to imply disapointment in WB for releasing We Can Fuck. I hope this doesn't mean a whole bunch of songs will remain unreleased because the lyrics are less than clean.


Rebeljuice, I had very similar "take-aways" from Sharon's comments as you did. Regarding point 5, I had a similar interpretation. My understanding is that the unreleased music on disc 2 of PR Deluxe all came from WB's Vault, not the Vault at Paisley. So perhaps the Estate had no say in what PR Deluxe contained? If Prince received his album masters from WB in 2014 per the agreement that he and WB signed, did he also receive the masters for unreleased material like what is on PR Deluxe disc 2? Prince gave WB the PR remaster in 2014. My understanding is P only gave the PR remaster and nothing else. I am glad that WB released We Can F**k because it is an epic masterpiece. IIRC, Everything else on disc 2 of PR Deluxe is pretty much free of cursing.
.
I wonder if Prince made any directions about what he wanted to release from the Paisley Vault.
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #164 posted 08/18/17 9:46am

databank

purplefam99 said:

databank said:

I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...

- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.

- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...

- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.

We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.

And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.

I mean, seriously.

If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.

Just my 2 cents.

Then I'm lost on the whole point of discussion boards. And this is the first one I have ever joined in my entire life.

Not every topic has to make perfect sense, and it's fine to address whatever: I just meant to say guys don't get too excited about all this, truth is we don't know shit about any of it, but hell if y'all trip on discussing it it doesn't harm anyone wink

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Reply #165 posted 08/18/17 9:52am

purplefam99

databank said:

I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...


- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.


- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...


- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.


We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.


And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.


I mean, seriously.


If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.


Just my 2 cents. 


 


 


 




Is it any different than commenting on his greatest song???
Reply #166 posted 08/18/17 10:39am

Dangelus

Rebeljuice said:

The most revealing things from part II for me are:

1) how little input the heirs seem to have regarding business decisions this late in the game.

2) How WB and the heirs seem to have very little common interest and do not seem to be on the same page.

3) How she may be as in the dark about the circumstances surrounding his death as the rest of us.

4) The heirs (or at least Sharon's) ideas going forward regarding the music is reasuring.

5) I found it a little worrying that she says they want to maintain Prince's ideals regarding swearing etc. She even seemed to imply disapointment in WB for releasing We Can Fuck. I hope this doesn't mean a whole bunch of songs will remain unreleased because the lyrics are less than clean.

Regarding 5) she sort of contradicted herself a little by saying that one the one hand they would totally respect P's wishes when it came to the type of material he would want released but later stated that he issue was with PERFORMING the material and that the recordings are part of the historical record.

To be fair if they were going to toally respect his wishes in terms of what should be released then nothing would be released as that was his wish at the time and he left no instructions to the contrary as far as we know...

Reply #167 posted 08/18/17 11:54am

laurarichardson

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Q: Of all the things Prince accomplished in his life, what do u think he would be most proud of? A: The outpouring of love from his fans when he passed and the release of The John L. Nelson Project. This was a very interesting answer...as both things happened after he passed...and I don't think prince was involved in the release of his fathers material?

He wasn't involved and this is just away to keep bolstering John's music. Realize that John's children are the heirs to his estate. $$$$$

Reply #168 posted 08/18/17 12:07pm

morningsong

databank said:

I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...

- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.

- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...

- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.

We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.

And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.

I mean, seriously.

If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.

Just my 2 cents.



Nice to get a male perspective every once in a while.


“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #169 posted 08/18/17 12:42pm

benni

databank said:

I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...

- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.

- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...

- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.

We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.

And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.

I mean, seriously.

If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.

Just my 2 cents.


Thank you, databank! You said it all so perfectly! As I said earlier, it's not my business who his "greatest love" was and the only one that can answer that is no longer with us. For anyone else to say, "yes it was this one person" is only an opinion, and usually that opinion is based upon their own desire, belief system, experience. Personally, I'd rather think of Prince as being complete unto himself, with no need to "pine" after anyone. I know from my own experience that each relationship brings something unique and interesting into my life, and that while I am with that person, I'm not looking back at my past relationships and wishing for something that I had previously. It ended for a reason and those reasons were enough to make me not want to go back and revisit a relationship that's been Had. And anyone that has lived through a tumultuous relationship, like it's reported that Prince and Denise had, definitely do not want to go back and revisit the pain, drama, and negativity that came out of the relationship, no matter how good the good part of the relationship was.

[Edited 8/18/17 12:46pm]

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Reply #170 posted 08/18/17 12:43pm

benni

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Q: Of all the things Prince accomplished in his life, what do u think he would be most proud of? A: The outpouring of love from his fans when he passed and the release of The John L. Nelson Project. This was a very interesting answer...as both things happened after he passed...and I don't think prince was involved in the release of his fathers material?


There were a couple of responses that were like that; things that were about events that have happened since he left us. I found that interesting too.

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
Reply #171 posted 08/18/17 12:56pm

Mumio

benni said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Q: Of all the things Prince accomplished in his life, what do u think he would be most proud of? A: The outpouring of love from his fans when he passed and the release of The John L. Nelson Project. This was a very interesting answer...as both things happened after he passed...and I don't think prince was involved in the release of his fathers material?


There were a couple of responses that were like that; things that were about events that have happened since he left us. I found that interesting too.



nod

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #172 posted 08/18/17 1:23pm

purplefam99

laurarichardson said:

 



LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


Q: Of all the things Prince accomplished in his life, what do u think he would be most proud of? A: The outpouring of love from his fans when he passed and the release of The John L. Nelson Project. This was a very interesting answer...as both things happened after he passed...and I don't think prince was involved in the release of his fathers material?

He wasn't involved and this is just away to keep bolstering John's music. Realize that John's children are the heirs to  his estate. $$$$$ 


 


 


 


Oooooh a point I had failed to notice. Yikes a piggy back ride. Hmmm
Reply #173 posted 08/18/17 1:28pm

purplefam99

benni said:

 



databank said:


I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...


- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.


- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...


- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.


We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.


And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.


I mean, seriously.


If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.


Just my 2 cents. 


 


 


 




Thank you, databank! You said it all so perfectly! As I said earlier, it's not my business who his "greatest love" was and the only one that can answer that is no longer with us. For anyone else to say, "yes it was this one person" is only an opinion, and usually that opinion is based upon their own desire, belief system, experience. Personally, I'd rather think of Prince as being complete unto himself, with no need to "pine" after anyone. I know from my own experience that each relationship brings something unique and interesting into my life, and that while I am with that person, I'm not looking back at my past relationships and wishing for something that I had previously. It ended for a reason and those reasons were enough to make me not want to go back and revisit a relationship that's been Had. And anyone that has lived through a tumultuous relationship, like it's reported that Prince and Denise had, definitely do not want to go back and revisit the pain, drama, and negativity that came out of the relationship, no matter how good the good part of the relationship was.

[Edited 8/18/17 12:46pm]



I'll say again is it any different than commenting on his greatest song? Or favorite era, or favorite outfit, or which drummer you liked best???
[Edited 8/18/17 13:30pm]
Reply #174 posted 08/18/17 1:35pm

benni

purplefam99 said:

benni said:


Thank you, databank! You said it all so perfectly! As I said earlier, it's not my business who his "greatest love" was and the only one that can answer that is no longer with us. For anyone else to say, "yes it was this one person" is only an opinion, and usually that opinion is based upon their own desire, belief system, experience. Personally, I'd rather think of Prince as being complete unto himself, with no need to "pine" after anyone. I know from my own experience that each relationship brings something unique and interesting into my life, and that while I am with that person, I'm not looking back at my past relationships and wishing for something that I had previously. It ended for a reason and those reasons were enough to make me not want to go back and revisit a relationship that's been Had. And anyone that has lived through a tumultuous relationship, like it's reported that Prince and Denise had, definitely do not want to go back and revisit the pain, drama, and negativity that came out of the relationship, no matter how good the good part of the relationship was.

[Edited 8/18/17 12:46pm]

I'll say again is it any different than commenting on his greatest song?


Imho, it is. His music was for public consumption, his relationships were private. Prince was a VERY private person who avoided public drama. If you want to discuss his relationships, that's fine. Just keep in mind that it is opinion and stop trying to convince everyone that your (general your, not you specifically) opinion is the right one because you (again, general) don't know, can't know, and the only one who does isn't with us any more. And besides? Why is it important? Does it really matter who his greatest love was? At this point, all it is about is for some people to romanticize a relationship THEY saw as ideal, but the relationship ended, which signifies that maybe it was not ideal.

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
Reply #175 posted 08/18/17 1:51pm

purplefam99

benni said:

 



purplefam99 said:


benni said:

 



Thank you, databank! You said it all so perfectly! As I said earlier, it's not my business who his "greatest love" was and the only one that can answer that is no longer with us. For anyone else to say, "yes it was this one person" is only an opinion, and usually that opinion is based upon their own desire, belief system, experience. Personally, I'd rather think of Prince as being complete unto himself, with no need to "pine" after anyone. I know from my own experience that each relationship brings something unique and interesting into my life, and that while I am with that person, I'm not looking back at my past relationships and wishing for something that I had previously. It ended for a reason and those reasons were enough to make me not want to go back and revisit a relationship that's been Had. And anyone that has lived through a tumultuous relationship, like it's reported that Prince and Denise had, definitely do not want to go back and revisit the pain, drama, and negativity that came out of the relationship, no matter how good the good part of the relationship was.


[Edited 8/18/17 12:46pm]



I'll say again is it any different than commenting on his greatest song?


Imho, it is.  His music was for public consumption, his relationships were private.  Prince was a VERY private person who avoided public drama.  If you want to discuss his relationships, that's fine.  Just keep in mind that it is opinion and stop trying to convince everyone that your (general your, not you specifically) opinion is the right one because you (again, general) don't know, can't know, and the only one who does isn't with us any more.  And besides?  Why is it important?  Does it really matter who his greatest love was?  At this point, all it is about is for some people to romanticize a relationship THEY saw as ideal, but the relationship ended, which signifies that maybe it was not ideal. 



I am hearing you, but I think the music was about his relationships which is why the discussion of relationships is hard to avoid. I think it is ok to talk all day about the melodies and the time signatures in the music and if they were jazz based and inspired by his father or if they were more miles davis inspired. Likewise to discuss his relationships and the songs they inspired is equally interesting. And I assume everything posted here is opinion.
Reply #176 posted 08/18/17 2:34pm

Mumio

benni said:

purplefam99 said:

benni said: I'll say again is it any different than commenting on his greatest song?


Imho, it is. His music was for public consumption, his relationships were private. Prince was a VERY private person who avoided public drama. If you want to discuss his relationships, that's fine. Just keep in mind that it is opinion and stop trying to convince everyone that your (general your, not you specifically) opinion is the right one because you (again, general) don't know, can't know, and the only one who does isn't with us any more. And besides? Why is it important? Does it really matter who his greatest love was? At this point, all it is about is for some people to romanticize a relationship THEY saw as ideal, but the relationship ended, which signifies that maybe it was not ideal.


Benni nails it yet again. This is EXACTLY the thing. The difference. And it doesn't matter at all now that he isn't here.

Why do people need to keep pushing their fantasies as reality? Just stop already. All the women he cared about had their time with him, their place with him. It's there. It's reality. And it ended for every.single.one. of them because it was never intended to be permanent. They knew that if they were living in reality. Why don't the fans know it????

If something is meant to be, it WILL last. If it doesn't last then it isn't meant to be. It REALLY is that simple.


Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #177 posted 08/18/17 2:43pm

poppys

laurarichardson said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Q: Of all the things Prince accomplished in his life, what do u think he would be most proud of? A: The outpouring of love from his fans when he passed and the release of The John L. Nelson Project. This was a very interesting answer...as both things happened after he passed...and I don't think prince was involved in the release of his fathers material?

He wasn't involved and this is just away to keep bolstering John's music. Realize that John's children are the heirs to his estate. $$$$$

Bingo

If your last December came, what would u do?
Reply #178 posted 08/18/17 3:41pm

purplefam99

Mumio said:

 



benni said:


 



purplefam99 said:


benni said: I'll say again is it any different than commenting on his greatest song?


Imho, it is.  His music was for public consumption, his relationships were private.  Prince was a VERY private person who avoided public drama.  If you want to discuss his relationships, that's fine.  Just keep in mind that it is opinion and stop trying to convince everyone that your (general your, not you specifically) opinion is the right one because you (again, general) don't know, can't know, and the only one who does isn't with us any more.  And besides?  Why is it important?  Does it really matter who his greatest love was?  At this point, all it is about is for some people to romanticize a relationship THEY saw as ideal, but the relationship ended, which signifies that maybe it was not ideal. 




Benni nails it yet again. This is EXACTLY the thing. The difference. And it doesn't matter at all now that he isn't here. 

Why do people need to keep pushing their fantasies as reality? Just stop already. All the women he cared about had their time with him, their place with him. It's there. It's reality. And it ended for every.single.one. of them because it was never intended to be permanent. They knew that if they were living in reality. Why don't the fans know it????

If something is meant to be, it WILL last. If it doesn't last then it isn't meant to be. It REALLY is that simple.





It didn't really matter when he was alive either. It is all opinion now and then.
He wouldn't have answered then and he can't now. To me things just are. Then were to be during that time and space they were in. Some people seem to just want to discuss if perhaps that love was relevant even if the relationship did not make it. I think it's fair to allow room for it even if in your opinion it doesn't matter now.
Reply #179 posted 08/18/17 3:53pm

benni

purplefam99 said:

benni said:


Imho, it is. His music was for public consumption, his relationships were private. Prince was a VERY private person who avoided public drama. If you want to discuss his relationships, that's fine. Just keep in mind that it is opinion and stop trying to convince everyone that your (general your, not you specifically) opinion is the right one because you (again, general) don't know, can't know, and the only one who does isn't with us any more. And besides? Why is it important? Does it really matter who his greatest love was? At this point, all it is about is for some people to romanticize a relationship THEY saw as ideal, but the relationship ended, which signifies that maybe it was not ideal.

I am hearing you, but I think the music was about his relationships which is why the discussion of relationships is hard to avoid. I think it is ok to talk all day about the melodies and the time signatures in the music and if they were jazz based and inspired by his father or if they were more miles davis inspired. Likewise to discuss his relationships and the songs they inspired is equally interesting. And I assume everything posted here is opinion.


I'm not saying that none of his songs were about the women he was involved with. I'm sure many of the songs were about various people over the course of his career, and that he revisited songs that he felt fit a new relationship, and rather than come up with a new song, recycled an older one. Prince could get away with doing something like that because he was so prolific and because....well... because he was Prince. But the majority of the discussions that talk about his exes aren't about the music, what songs were inspired by whom, they de-evolve into a "he loved this one more than he loved that one and you can't convince me otherwise". And then it de-evolves even further into a vilification of one ex over another.

I've jumped in and defended an ex when it seemed everyone was ganging up on her, I hate to see women belittle women, when we should be building each other up because we get enough of the belittling in the world we live in without us doing it to each other. But this thing with Denise, it gets old after awhile, hearing the same people go on and on about how she was the love of his life, how he was always looking for her in every women he met, how he wrote every song for her, how he spent his life pining away for her. I adore Denise. I have a lot of respect for her. She went through a lot in life and overcame so much more. But I also respect Mayte, Manuela, Jill, Susan, et al. They were all of them strong women in their own ways and they ALL brought something special to Prince's life at the time when he needed it and them. And yes, he was a player and played quite a few of the women, but again, he was Prince, he could get away with it. And players, don't pine, they are ALWAYS looking for their next conquest. Though, Prince matured and his attitude seemed to mellow, and I absolutely adore that man. But each relationship was important to Prince for one reason or another; they EACH of them were individuals that Prince felt connected to and allowed into a private world that the fans were not / are not allowed into. IMHO, not a one of them was more important than the next, because they brought him some peace and happiness for a time, and I value them each for doing that.

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
Reply #180 posted 08/18/17 4:25pm

purplefam99

benni said:

 



purplefam99 said:


benni said:

 



Imho, it is.  His music was for public consumption, his relationships were private.  Prince was a VERY private person who avoided public drama.  If you want to discuss his relationships, that's fine.  Just keep in mind that it is opinion and stop trying to convince everyone that your (general your, not you specifically) opinion is the right one because you (again, general) don't know, can't know, and the only one who does isn't with us any more.  And besides?  Why is it important?  Does it really matter who his greatest love was?  At this point, all it is about is for some people to romanticize a relationship THEY saw as ideal, but the relationship ended, which signifies that maybe it was not ideal. 



I am hearing you, but I think the music was about his relationships which is why the discussion of relationships is hard to avoid. I think it is ok to talk all day about the melodies and the time signatures in the music and if they were jazz based and inspired by his father or if they were more miles davis inspired. Likewise to discuss his relationships and the songs they inspired is equally interesting. And I assume everything posted here is opinion.


I'm not saying that none of his songs were about the women he was involved with.  I'm sure many of the songs were about various people over the course of his career, and that he revisited songs that he felt fit a new relationship, and rather than come up with a new song, recycled an older one.  Prince could get away with doing something like that because he was so prolific and because....well... because he was Prince.  But the majority of the discussions that talk about his exes aren't about the music, what songs were inspired by whom, they de-evolve into a "he loved this one more than he loved that one and you can't convince me otherwise".  And then it de-evolves even further into a vilification of one ex over another.  

I've jumped in and defended an ex when it seemed everyone was ganging up on her, I hate to see women belittle women, when we should be building each other up because we get enough of the belittling in the world we live in without us doing it to each other.  But this thing with Denise, it gets old after awhile, hearing the same people go on and on about how she was the love of his life, how he was always looking for her in every women he met, how he wrote every song for her, how he spent his life pining away for her.  I adore Denise.  I have a lot of respect for her.  She went through a lot in life and overcame so much more.  But I also respect Mayte, Manuela, Jill, Susan, et al.  They were all of them strong women in their own ways and they ALL brought something special to Prince's life at the time when he needed it and them.  And yes, he was a player and played quite a few of the women, but again, he was Prince, he could get away with it.  And players, don't pine, they are ALWAYS looking for their next conquest.  Though, Prince matured and his attitude seemed to mellow, and I absolutely adore that man.  But each relationship was important to Prince for one reason or another; they EACH of them were individuals that Prince felt connected to and allowed into a private world that the fans were not / are not allowed into.  IMHO, not a one of them was more important than the next, because they brought him some peace and happiness for a time, and I value them each for doing that.  




Yes!!! And I have said that they are all important too here on the org. I'm
Just concerned about telling people to go away,so to speak. "Oh here you go again"
Type of thought. First because I'm new here and want to hear everyone's passions
And opinions. Second because it is ALL OPINION in the first place and I personally don't think however many times someone's tells me their opinion that they want me to make it my own. So if I say over and over that Prince was the best performer ever, I'm equally ok with them saying no Bowie was. That is the stuff life is made of,free will freedom of speech. I'm trying to understand why the conversations have to be parental in tone.
Reply #181 posted 08/18/17 4:49pm

benni

purplefam99 said:

benni said:


I'm not saying that none of his songs were about the women he was involved with. I'm sure many of the songs were about various people over the course of his career, and that he revisited songs that he felt fit a new relationship, and rather than come up with a new song, recycled an older one. Prince could get away with doing something like that because he was so prolific and because....well... because he was Prince. But the majority of the discussions that talk about his exes aren't about the music, what songs were inspired by whom, they de-evolve into a "he loved this one more than he loved that one and you can't convince me otherwise". And then it de-evolves even further into a vilification of one ex over another.

I've jumped in and defended an ex when it seemed everyone was ganging up on her, I hate to see women belittle women, when we should be building each other up because we get enough of the belittling in the world we live in without us doing it to each other. But this thing with Denise, it gets old after awhile, hearing the same people go on and on about how she was the love of his life, how he was always looking for her in every women he met, how he wrote every song for her, how he spent his life pining away for her. I adore Denise. I have a lot of respect for her. She went through a lot in life and overcame so much more. But I also respect Mayte, Manuela, Jill, Susan, et al. They were all of them strong women in their own ways and they ALL brought something special to Prince's life at the time when he needed it and them. And yes, he was a player and played quite a few of the women, but again, he was Prince, he could get away with it. And players, don't pine, they are ALWAYS looking for their next conquest. Though, Prince matured and his attitude seemed to mellow, and I absolutely adore that man. But each relationship was important to Prince for one reason or another; they EACH of them were individuals that Prince felt connected to and allowed into a private world that the fans were not / are not allowed into. IMHO, not a one of them was more important than the next, because they brought him some peace and happiness for a time, and I value them each for doing that.

Yes!!! And I have said that they are all important too here on the org. I'm Just concerned about telling people to go away,so to speak. "Oh here you go again" Type of thought. First because I'm new here and want to hear everyone's passions And opinions. Second because it is ALL OPINION in the first place and I personally don't think however many times someone's tells me their opinion that they want me to make it my own. So if I say over and over that Prince was the best performer ever, I'm equally ok with them saying no Bowie was. That is the stuff life is made of,free will freedom of speech. I'm trying to understand why the conversations have to be parental in tone.



If you are new, then you will see how it goes eventually. For those of us that have been here for many many years, we know how it ends up going. And I'm not saying anyone shouldn't speak about whatever topic they want to speak about, as I said previously, if you want to talk about his relationships, that's fine. You seem to grasp that it is just opinion, but there are some that do not, that believe the opinions they hold are fact and will even get involved in name-calling towards posters that don't agree with them, because after all, they are right the one that disagrees is wrong. So you may not think they want you to adopt their opinion, but trust when I say they really will argue with you and tell you their opinion is fact and they have this, that, or the other to support (and what they are using to support it is suppositiion, based upon their perception of events, not on actual fact). And no one has said that it has to be parental in tone, but these conversations usually de-evolve pretty quickly. One person gets involved and suddenly they have the whole group jumping on someone that disagrees.

Personally, I would rather Prince retain some of his mystique. It was that mystique that drew me to him to begin with. I don't need to analyze every angle of his life, his world. So I'm content to let his relationships rest in peace with him. That was his private world and I don't need to be privvy to it. I love the songs and I associate them with aspects of my life, the way his music has touched me and my world, and that is enough for me. Now I will tend to analyze his deeper, spiritual music, because it intrigues me more, but his relationships hold no power for me.

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
Reply #182 posted 08/18/17 5:17pm

Mumio

purplefam99 said:

Yes!!! And I have said that they are all important too here on the org. I'm Just concerned about telling people to go away,so to speak. "Oh here you go again" Type of thought. First because I'm new here and want to hear everyone's passions And opinions. Second because it is ALL OPINION in the first place and I personally don't think however many times someone's tells me their opinion that they want me to make it my own. So if I say over and over that Prince was the best performer ever, I'm equally ok with them saying no Bowie was. That is the stuff life is made of,free will freedom of speech. I'm trying to understand why the conversations have to be parental in tone.



Are you obsessed with this? Or you are just here trolling people? Let it go. You are new here yet you are doing your best to ensure that you can't be seen as blending in. Over something as easily answered as this. Really, just stop.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #183 posted 08/18/17 5:17pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

purplefam99 said:

Yes!!! And I have said that they are all important too here on the org. I'm Just concerned about telling people to go away,so to speak. "Oh here you go again" Type of thought. First because I'm new here and want to hear everyone's passions And opinions. Second because it is ALL OPINION in the first place and I personally don't think however many times someone's tells me their opinion that they want me to make it my own. So if I say over and over that Prince was the best performer ever, I'm equally ok with them saying no Bowie was. That is the stuff life is made of,free will freedom of speech. I'm trying to understand why the conversations have to be parental in tone.

I am so over this.

It is tiresome.

Buckle up.

You are on the org now.

Reply #184 posted 08/18/17 5:48pm

ThatWhiteDude

I read both parts of the Interview now and from what I read, Sharon seems to be a really nice person. It's great to see that she respects her brother's wishes and the wishes from his fans.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
Reply #185 posted 08/18/17 6:33pm

luvgirl

Are some of you guys kidding me? Prince sister divulged in a question and answer thread, that in her opinion she thought Denise Matthews was the love of Prince's life! No one is suppose to talk about it? Everyone should please shut up and go away? This is to be swept under the rug? Nothing to see here...? Lol. As this is a Prince fan site, and everyone has been talking about everything under the sun pertaining to Prince including his love life since the dawn of 2002, why stop now at Sharon's comment about Denise being the love of his life? Lol. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a debate about this.

No one will ever know for absolute certain without a doubt who the love of Prince's life was, but since people have been speculating for years that it was Vanity/Denise and since Prince's sister just stated her opinion that she thinks its Denise as well, it's kind of hard not to entertain it as a thought. I mean, if you asked me who the love of my sister's life was, I guarantee you I would get it right... and vice versa... But okay I get it, it's her opinion. But what an opinion it was! Yea, I think I'm gonna talk about this for a while. For as long as I want. Her comment is worth contemplating. You might not find this interesting, but just because you don't, doesn't mean you need to try to stop people from talking about it. Do you guys see some of the threads that are on this site? They speculate about his son! They speculate about his death! They speculate about how he did drugs, when he did drugs, how much drugs it was that he did, but no one is suppose to talk about his love life? Or is it just this one particular comment we're not supposed to talk about...?
[Edited 8/18/17 18:55pm]
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #186 posted 08/18/17 6:38pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

luvgirl said:

Are some of you guys kidding me? Prince sister divulged in a question and answer thread, that in her opinion she thought Denise Matthews was the love of Prince's life! No one is suppose to talk about it? Everyone should please shut up and go away? This is to be swept under the rug? Nothing to see here...? Lol. As this is a Prince fan site, and everyone has been talking about everything under the sun pertaining to Prince including his love life since the dawn of 2002, why stop now at Sharon's comment about Denise being the love of his life? Lol. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a debate about this. No one will ever know for absolute certain without a doubt who the love of Prince's life was, but since people have been speculating for years that it was Vanity/Denise and since Prince's sister just stated her opinion that she thinks its Denise as well, it's kind of hard not to entertain it as a thought. I mean, if you asked me who the love of my sister's life was, I guarantee you I would get it right... and vice versa... But okay I get it, it's her opinion. But what an opinion it was! Yea, I think I'm gonna talk about this for a while. For as long as I want. Her comment is worth contemplating. You might not find this interesting, but just because you don't, doesn't mean you need to try to stop people from talking about it. Do you guys see some of the threads that are on this site? They speculate about his son! They speculate about his death! They speculate about how he did drugs, when he did drugs, how much drugs it was that he did, but ho one is suppose to talk about his love life? Or is it just this one particular comment...?

Go for it!

eyepop

blunt

Reply #187 posted 08/18/17 6:56pm

purplefam99

Mumio said:

 



purplefam99 said:


Yes!!! And I have said that they are all important too here on the org. I'm Just concerned about telling people to go away,so to speak. "Oh here you go again" Type of thought. First because I'm new here and want to hear everyone's passions And opinions. Second because it is ALL OPINION in the first place and I personally don't think however many times someone's tells me their opinion that they want me to make it my own. So if I say over and over that Prince was the best performer ever, I'm equally ok with them saying no Bowie was. That is the stuff life is made of,free will freedom of speech. I'm trying to understand why the conversations have to be parental in tone.



Are you obsessed with this? Or you are just here trolling people? Let it go. You are new here yet you are doing your best to ensure that you can't be seen as blending in. Over something as easily answered as this. Really, just stop.





The thread is entiltled Discuss Sharon Nelson Q & A here and only here.

I'm just trying to figure out why some don't want that to happen HERE!!!

The question was asked, she answered now let's discuss!!!! The Mods said
Talk about it here!!

I don't see that as trolling, or an obsession. And why do I need to blend in
I didn't see that as a requirement when I sign up. Best.
Reply #188 posted 08/18/17 6:58pm

purplefam99

luvgirl said:

Are some of you guys kidding me? Prince sister divulged in a question and answer thread, that in her opinion she thought Denise Matthews was the love of Prince's life! No one is suppose to talk about it? Everyone should please shut up and go away? This is to be swept under the rug? Nothing to see here...? Lol. As this is a Prince fan site, and everyone has been talking about everything under the sun pertaining to Prince including his love life since the dawn of 2002, why stop now at Sharon's comment about Denise being the love of his life? Lol. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a debate about this.

No one will ever know for absolute certain without a doubt who the love of Prince's life was, but since people have been speculating for years that it was Vanity/Denise and since Prince's sister just stated her opinion that she thinks its Denise as well, it's kind of hard not to entertain it as a thought. I mean, if you asked me who the love of my sister's life was, I guarantee you I would get it right... and vice versa... But okay I get it, it's her opinion. But what an opinion it was! Yea, I think I'm gonna talk about this for a while. For as long as I want. Her comment is worth contemplating. You might not find this interesting, but just because you don't, doesn't mean you need to try to stop people from talking about it. Do you guys see some of the threads that are on this site? They speculate about his son! They speculate about his death! They speculate about how he did drugs, when he did drugs, how much drugs it was that he did, but no one is suppose to talk about his love life? Or is it just this one particular comment we're not supposed to talk about...?
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I'm ready to discuss any and all Sharon Nelson Q&A questions!! Let's go luvgirl!!!
Reply #189 posted 08/18/17 7:17pm

luvgirl

206Michelle said:

luvgirl said:

Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...

[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]

I'm totally being a newsy fan when I say this, but I would love for Sharon to further elaborate on her comment regarding Denise, particularly if he was still in love with her after the divorce from Mani and in the last years of his life. I know that he loved Denise greatly. Some fans believe he never got over Denise and some believe that he moved on from her. His music indicates that he dearly loved Mayte and then Mani. But I wonder, Did his feelings for Denise resurface after the second divorce?

Yes, I would love to know what led to her thinking this way. There had to be a reason why she decided to say that Denise was the love of Prince's life. The reason is the alluring part in all of this. I get that this is her opinion, but it's how she came by that opinion that I think would be the real revelation.

I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #190 posted 08/18/17 7:42pm

purplefam99

luvgirl said:

 



206Michelle said:


luvgirl said:

 


 


Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin  Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...


[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]



I'm totally being a newsy fan when I say this, but I would love for Sharon to further elaborate on her comment regarding Denise, particularly if he was still in love with her after the divorce from Mani and in the last years of his life. I know that he loved Denise greatly. Some fans believe he never got over Denise and some believe that he moved on from her. His music indicates that he dearly loved Mayte and then Mani. But I wonder, Did his feelings for Denise resurface after the second divorce?

 


Yes, I would love to know what led to her thinking this way. There had to be a reason why she decided to say that Denise was the love of Prince's life. The reason is the alluring part in all of this. I get that this is her opinion, but it's how she came by that opinion that I think would be the real revelation.


 


 



I'm curious by that notion as well, do you think perhaps she had the chance
To meet Denise ever? something had to make her feel that way. I'm grateful
She was willing to give her opinion.
Reply #191 posted 08/18/17 8:18pm

luvgirl

purplefam99 said:

luvgirl said:

Yes, I would love to know what led to her thinking this way. There had to be a reason why she decided to say that Denise was the love of Prince's life. The reason is the alluring part in all of this. I get that this is her opinion, but it's how she came by that opinion that I think would be the real revelation.

I'm curious by that notion as well, do you think perhaps she had the chance To meet Denise ever? something had to make her feel that way. I'm grateful She was willing to give her opinion.

It's certainly possible that she met her, she had almost thirty years to do so. Yes, I believe something led her to say Denise was the love of his life. I wish I could have another question and answer! I'd be all over this like Purplebfflogirl, my new found hero... lol

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I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #192 posted 08/18/17 9:00pm

luvgirl

purplefam99 said:

Mumio said:



Are you obsessed with this? Or you are just here trolling people? Let it go. You are new here yet you are doing your best to ensure that you can't be seen as blending in. Over something as easily answered as this. Really, just stop.

The thread is entiltled Discuss Sharon Nelson Q & A here and only here. I'm just trying to figure out why some don't want that to happen HERE!!! The question was asked, she answered now let's discuss!!!! The Mods said Talk about it here!! I don't see that as trolling, or an obsession. And why do I need to blend in I didn't see that as a requirement when I sign up. Best.

Purplefam99, you're not a troll. I've seen you in other threads backing practically all of Prince's women in one way or another. You seem unbiased in every way and eager to debate all aspects of Prince's life without preference. I commend you for that.

I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #193 posted 08/18/17 9:14pm

MD431Madcat

nice.

+ sharon is an old friend.. cool

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Reply #194 posted 08/19/17 7:56am

luvgirl

Purpleflogirl said:
"I don't think he lived a miserable life, crying daily when they broke up but obviously he loved her very much."

Although Prince wrote the song "Computer Blue" we are not really computers. And if you really listen to the song, even Prince the computer went through varying emotions. We go through different stages of reflection. Some of us are able to move on after a break up but still commemorate and hold onto memories and tender feelings for a love lost without falling apart. Although our relationship didn't last, and I'm married to a completely different man that I absolutely adore, I still remember my first love with fondness and cherish what we shared. He will forever have the status of being my first true love even though we had to part ways. It's possible to acknowledge a person whom in your heart you knew was "the one" and still live a pleasurable life.

Changirl said:
Everyone has had a true love, and Denise was his. It's obvious, really. Denise was close in age, similar backgrounds. Both driven but unfortunately too much alike so it couldn't work. She had conditions Prince just couldn't meet, especially after her conversion. According to Toban, over time Prince tried to reconcile with her more than once but she refused to be anything more than friends. No one came close to being on the same level as Prince like she was, sad to say.

Reading what Sharon said reminded me of when Carmen Electra said that she thought Denise and Prince were soulmates. It's not just Prince.org. It make me wonder why some of the people that were so close to him at one point would think along these lines...

Vashtix said:
You learn to live with what life brings. You move on but your heart never totally leaves the first love and I think he and Denise remained friends over the decades. I think they were 2 people whose lives paralleled each other. I think the feelings were never packed away just evolved into a deep respect and friendship.

Yes, I believe in their later years they both knew what they meant to each other and took comfort in being friends.
[Edited 8/19/17 8:03am]
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #195 posted 08/19/17 8:00am

Marco81

>>Pacey68:

Question 1: what is your favourite Prince song/album?

Question 2: I don't know how much input you have regarding reissues but could you pressure labels to fact check for future releases? The liner notes of the PR reissue contained a lot of errors regarding recording details.

A: Well, that WB deal for the PR reissue was developed by those who really didn’t know my brothers business, we are not consulted or asked for input on any of the released materials. You are probably going to see many more mistakes since many of those in charge are not asking us for input and are making decisions while atempting to learn Prince 101.>>

Isn't the entire family in the Thank You section of PR Deluxe? So they must have had a saying in it....


Reply #196 posted 08/19/17 8:54am

muleFunk

Part 2 had very interesting comments!

Especially the part about the Heirs and the Estate being two seperate entities .

Reply #197 posted 08/19/17 10:31am

Purplebflogirl

luvgirl said:

 



purplefam99 said:


luvgirl said:

 


 


Yes, I would love to know what led to her thinking this way. There had to be a reason why she decided to say that Denise was the love of Prince's life. The reason is the alluring part in all of this. I get that this is her opinion, but it's how she came by that opinion that I think would be the real revelation.


 


 



I'm curious by that notion as well, do you think perhaps she had the chance To meet Denise ever? something had to make her feel that way. I'm grateful She was willing to give her opinion.

 


It's certainly possible that she met her, she had almost thirty years to do so. Yes, I believe something led her to say Denise was the love of his life. I wish I could have another question and answer! I'd be all over this like Purplebfflogirl, my new found hero...  lol


 


 


 


 

[Edited 8/18/17 22:09pm]


Aww TY.IMHO most already knew she was the love of his life..But it was good to get the opinion of a family member..She knew him..we didn't.And again for the M1 &M2 fans.. nobody is saying he didn't love them at one time but when their relationships ended..so did communication.He kept in contact with Denise..that alone speaks volumes.
Until the end of time
Reply #198 posted 08/19/17 12:49pm

babynoz

luvgirl said:

Are some of you guys kidding me? Prince sister divulged in a question and answer thread, that in her opinion she thought Denise Matthews was the love of Prince's life! No one is suppose to talk about it? Everyone should please shut up and go away? This is to be swept under the rug? Nothing to see here...? Lol. As this is a Prince fan site, and everyone has been talking about everything under the sun pertaining to Prince including his love life since the dawn of 2002, why stop now at Sharon's comment about Denise being the love of his life? Lol. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a debate about this.

No one will ever know for absolute certain without a doubt who the love of Prince's life was, but since people have been speculating for years that it was Vanity/Denise and since Prince's sister just stated her opinion that she thinks its Denise as well, it's kind of hard not to entertain it as a thought. I mean, if you asked me who the love of my sister's life was, I guarantee you I would get it right... and vice versa... But okay I get it, it's her opinion. But what an opinion it was! Yea, I think I'm gonna talk about this for a while. For as long as I want. Her comment is worth contemplating. You might not find this interesting, but just because you don't, doesn't mean you need to try to stop people from talking about it. Do you guys see some of the threads that are on this site? They speculate about his son! They speculate about his death! They speculate about how he did drugs, when he did drugs, how much drugs it was that he did, but no one is suppose to talk about his love life? Or is it just this one particular comment we're not supposed to talk about...? [Edited 8/18/17 18:55pm]



I agree with you....it's bullshit. nod


Thank you for pointing out the glaring hypocrisy and double standards. I am guessing that if Sharon had named Mayte as the love of his life, this pissing and moaning and whining would not be happening.

I do not recall the mods picking and choosing which of Sharon's words we are permitted to discuss and I agree that much more private stuff has and is being discussed here that no one seems to have a problem with.


Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
Reply #199 posted 08/19/17 1:29pm

babynoz

purplefam99 said:

luvgirl said:

Thank you for asking the question Purplebflogirl. I asked her about the Vanity 6 album and she didn't reply, but I liked your question much better than mine. You went straight for the kill. biggrin Her answer that Denise was the love of his life was very interesting since many people suspect that as well. I wonder what led her to have such an opinion? Something had to...

[Edited 8/17/17 6:32am]

I think no matter what good or bad family knows you best, even if your at odds with family they are the people who know your good and bad the best. They likely experienced our good and bad. They are the ones with access. Access counts or else we wouldn't have tuned in for her answers. Best.



yeahthat

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
Reply #200 posted 08/19/17 2:13pm

purplegirl00

babynoz said:

luvgirl said:

Are some of you guys kidding me? Prince sister divulged in a question and answer thread, that in her opinion she thought Denise Matthews was the love of Prince's life! No one is suppose to talk about it? Everyone should please shut up and go away? This is to be swept under the rug? Nothing to see here...? Lol. As this is a Prince fan site, and everyone has been talking about everything under the sun pertaining to Prince including his love life since the dawn of 2002, why stop now at Sharon's comment about Denise being the love of his life? Lol. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a debate about this.

No one will ever know for absolute certain without a doubt who the love of Prince's life was, but since people have been speculating for years that it was Vanity/Denise and since Prince's sister just stated her opinion that she thinks its Denise as well, it's kind of hard not to entertain it as a thought. I mean, if you asked me who the love of my sister's life was, I guarantee you I would get it right... and vice versa... But okay I get it, it's her opinion. But what an opinion it was! Yea, I think I'm gonna talk about this for a while. For as long as I want. Her comment is worth contemplating. You might not find this interesting, but just because you don't, doesn't mean you need to try to stop people from talking about it. Do you guys see some of the threads that are on this site? They speculate about his son! They speculate about his death! They speculate about how he did drugs, when he did drugs, how much drugs it was that he did, but no one is suppose to talk about his love life? Or is it just this one particular comment we're not supposed to talk about...? [Edited 8/18/17 18:55pm]



I agree with you....it's bullshit. nod


Thank you for pointing out the glaring hypocrisy and double standards. I am guessing that if Sharon had named Mayte as the love of his life, this pissing and moaning and whining would not be happening.

I do not recall the mods picking and choosing which of Sharon's words we are permitted to discuss and I agree that much more private stuff has and is being discussed here that no one seems to have a problem with.


ALL OF THIS^ Great points luvgirl! babynoz, you always know how to come through! worship

[Edited 8/19/17 14:14pm]

Reply #201 posted 08/19/17 3:07pm

babynoz

Thanks^^

June7 and Sharon took the time and went out of their way to get these questions answered. I'm not sure what sense it makes to dismiss the answers people don't want to hear.

She didn't have to do this.

I was smiling when I read about Prince teaching the local kids while Sharon was at work. biggrin

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
Reply #202 posted 08/19/17 3:16pm

Darshy

Prince exhibition at the O2 Arena in October??!!
Reply #203 posted 08/19/17 4:48pm

Purplebflogirl

babynoz said:

 



luvgirl said:


Are some of you guys kidding me? Prince sister divulged in a question and answer thread, that in her opinion she thought Denise Matthews was the love of Prince's life! No one is suppose to talk about it? Everyone should please shut up and go away? This is to be swept under the rug? Nothing to see here...? Lol. As this is a Prince fan site, and everyone has been talking about everything under the sun pertaining to Prince including his love life since the dawn of 2002, why stop now at Sharon's comment about Denise being the love of his life? Lol. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a debate about this.

No one will ever know for absolute certain without a doubt who the love of Prince's life was, but since people have been speculating for years that it was Vanity/Denise and since Prince's sister just stated her opinion that she thinks its Denise as well, it's kind of hard not to entertain it as a thought. I mean, if you asked me who the love of my sister's life was, I guarantee you I would get it right... and vice versa... But okay I get it, it's her opinion. But what an opinion it was! Yea, I think I'm gonna talk about this for a while. For as long as I want. Her comment is worth contemplating. You might not find this interesting, but just because you don't, doesn't mean you need to try to stop people from talking about it. Do you guys see some of the threads that are on this site? They speculate about his son! They speculate about his death! They speculate about how he did drugs, when he did drugs, how much drugs it was that he did, but no one is suppose to talk about his love life? Or is it just this one particular comment we're not supposed to talk about...? [Edited 8/18/17 18:55pm]



I agree with you....it's bullshit.  nod


Thank you for pointing out the glaring hypocrisy and double standards. I am guessing that if Sharon had named Mayte as the love of his life, this pissing and moaning and whining would not be happening. 

I do not recall the mods picking and choosing which of Sharon's words we are permitted to discuss and I agree that much more private stuff has and is being discussed here that no one seems to have a problem with. 



Exactly!
Until the end of time
Reply #204 posted 08/19/17 5:56pm

rogifan

Rebeljuice said:

The most revealing things from part II for me are:

1) how little input the heirs seem to have regarding business decisions this late in the game.

2) How WB and the heirs seem to have very little common interest and do not seem to be on the same page.

3) How she may be as in the dark about the circumstances surrounding his death as the rest of us.

4) The heirs (or at least Sharon's) ideas going forward regarding the music is reasuring.

5) I found it a little worrying that she says they want to maintain Prince's ideals regarding swearing etc. She even seemed to imply disapointment in WB for releasing We Can Fuck. I hope this doesn't mean a whole bunch of songs will remain unreleased because the lyrics are less than clean.


Regarding #5 I have a feeling whatever the heirs have a say in will not include profanity. That doesn’t bother me. One, because I respect Prince’s feelings here and two, because I think there is be plenty of amazing music in the vault that doesn’t contain profanity.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #205 posted 08/19/17 6:01pm

rogifan

databank said:

I'm extremely pleased to learn that Sharon and the other heirs seem to wish to get off the majors' boat, then self-release a great quantity of what's in the vault thru an indie label and an NPGMC type of site. This is quite reassuring and if things are to go that way, I can only wish for the heirs to get control of the estate soon. If anything, Ms. Nelson seems to be a very sensible person. I hope this interview will restore a sense of trust in the Nelson family's capacity to run things properly.


.


The only thing that bothers me is the part about not releasing material that "Prince would not have wanted released", because for one thing I find it hard to decide when exactly one should draw that that line, and as Sharon herself said, Prince changing his ways doesn't mean that what had existed does not exist anymore. My belief is that everything can and should be released on the long run: Prince's body of work makes it clear that he had changed his perspective and his later work is a testimony to that, so I fail to see why releasing earlier work with profanity or outrageous content is disrespectful to him as long as the listener is informed of when such material was recorded. Hell, save maybe those 2 infamous rape lines, I fail to see how anything could be worse than Sister, Head, Darling Nikki or The Black Album. However I am not the person in charge, neither did I know Prince personally, so this is just my opinion for what it's worth.


I’m not aware of Prince changing his opinion on profanity (late in his life). I think it’s easy to draw the line there. Everything else should be based on how good the music is. I’m not one who thinks everything from the vault should be released. Quantity doesn’t always equal quality. Obviously deciding what is quality is subjective but somebody/bodies will have to do it.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #206 posted 08/19/17 6:10pm

rogifan

Dangelus said:

 



Rebeljuice said:


The most revealing things from part II for me are:

1) how little input the heirs seem to have regarding business decisions this late in the game.

2) How WB and the heirs seem to have very little common interest and do not seem to be on the same page.

3) How she may be as in the dark about the circumstances surrounding his death as the rest of us.

4) The heirs (or at least Sharon's) ideas going forward regarding the music is reasuring.

5) I found it a little worrying that she says they want to maintain Prince's ideals regarding swearing etc. She even seemed to imply disapointment in WB for releasing We Can Fuck. I hope this doesn't mean a whole bunch of songs will remain unreleased because the lyrics are less than clean.



Regarding 5) she sort of contradicted herself a little by saying that one the one hand they would totally respect P's wishes when it came to the type of material he would want released but later stated that he issue was with PERFORMING the material and that the recordings are part of the historical record.


 


To be fair if they were going to toally respect his wishes in terms of what should be released then nothing would be released as that was his wish at the time and he left no instructions to the contrary as far as we know...


Obviously Prince still allowed all of his albums to be purchased as is. I remember when BET interviewed him during Musicology and asked him about performing songs like Head and Erotic City he replied “you got the records”. But music that hasn’t been released yet is a completely different matter IMO. I have a really hard time believing Prince would’ve signed off on any unreleased music that contained profanity. With the PR remaster he only submitted the remastered album, everything else was WB’s decision.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #207 posted 08/19/17 6:53pm

purplefam99

luvgirl said:

 



purplefam99 said:


luvgirl said:

 


 


Yes, I would love to know what led to her thinking this way. There had to be a reason why she decided to say that Denise was the love of Prince's life. The reason is the alluring part in all of this. I get that this is her opinion, but it's how she came by that opinion that I think would be the real revelation.


 


 



I'm curious by that notion as well, do you think perhaps she had the chance To meet Denise ever? something had to make her feel that way. I'm grateful She was willing to give her opinion.

 


It's certainly possible that she met her, she had almost thirty years to do so. Yes, I believe something led her to say Denise was the love of his life. I wish I could have another question and answer! I'd be all over this like Purplebfflogirl, my new found hero...  lol


 


 


 


 

[Edited 8/18/17 22:09pm]



Luvgirl i was wanting another opportunity for a Q&A too!!!!
Gosh I missed my window!!! She did answer my question so I'm
Glad for that!
Reply #208 posted 08/19/17 6:55pm

purplefam99

luvgirl said:

 



purplefam99 said:


Mumio said:

 




Are you obsessed with this? Or you are just here trolling people? Let it go. You are new here yet you are doing your best to ensure that you can't be seen as blending in. Over something as easily answered as this. Really, just stop.



The thread is entiltled Discuss Sharon Nelson Q & A here and only here. I'm just trying to figure out why some don't want that to happen HERE!!! The question was asked, she answered now let's discuss!!!! The Mods said Talk about it here!! I don't see that as trolling, or an obsession. And why do I need to blend in I didn't see that as a requirement when I sign up. Best.

 


Purplefam99, you're not a troll. I've seen you in other threads backing practically all of Prince's women in one way or another. You seem unbiased in every way and eager to debate all aspects of Prince's life without preference. I commend you for that.


 



Deep thanks luvgirl.
Reply #209 posted 08/19/17 7:06pm

purplefam99

luvgirl said:

Purpleflogirl said:
"I don't think he lived a miserable life, crying daily when they broke up but obviously he loved her very much."

Although Prince wrote the song "Computer Blue" we are not really computers. And if you really listen to the song, even Prince the computer went through varying emotions. We go through different stages of reflection. Some of us are able to move on after a break up but still commemorate and hold onto memories and tender feelings for a love lost without falling apart. Although our relationship didn't last, and I'm married to a completely different man that I absolutely adore, I still remember my first love with fondness and cherish what we shared. He will forever have the status of being my first true love even though we had to part ways. It's possible to acknowledge a person whom in your heart you knew was "the one" and still live a pleasurable life.

Changirl said:
Reading what Sharon said reminded me of when Carmen Electra said that she thought Denise and Prince were soulmates. It's not just Prince.org. It make me wonder why some of the people that were so close to him at one point would think along these lines...

Vashtix said:
You learn to live with what life brings. You move on but your heart never totally leaves the first love and I think he and Denise remained friends over the decades. I think they were 2 people whose lives paralleled each other. I think the feelings were never packed away just evolved into a deep respect and friendship.

Yes, I believe in their later years they both knew what they meant to each other and took comfort in being friends.
[Edited 8/19/17 8:03am]



Yes I wonder since Sharon says Prince didn't get rid of much of anything I wonder if perhaps they found more Denise items records clippings and such in his home to lead her to say she was his greatest love. I wonder!!!!
Reply #210 posted 08/19/17 7:08pm

purplefam99

Purplebflogirl said:

luvgirl said:

 



purplefam99 said:


luvgirl said:

 


 


Yes, I would love to know what led to her thinking this way. There had to be a reason why she decided to say that Denise was the love of Prince's life. The reason is the alluring part in all of this. I get that this is her opinion, but it's how she came by that opinion that I think would be the real revelation.


 


 



I'm curious by that notion as well, do you think perhaps she had the chance To meet Denise ever? something had to make her feel that way. I'm grateful She was willing to give her opinion.

 


It's certainly possible that she met her, she had almost thirty years to do so. Yes, I believe something led her to say Denise was the love of his life. I wish I could have another question and answer! I'd be all over this like Purplebfflogirl, my new found hero...  lol


 


 


 


 

[Edited 8/18/17 22:09pm]


Aww TY.IMHO most already knew she was the love of his life..But it was good to get the opinion of a family member..She knew him..we didn't.And again for the M1 &M2 fans.. nobody is saying he didn't love them at one time but when their relationships ended..so did communication.He kept in contact with Denise..that alone speaks volumes.



Yes purplebflogirl volumes!!!!! Thanks again for your brave question.
Reply #211 posted 08/19/17 7:13pm

Purplebflogirl

purplefam99 said:

Purplebflogirl said:


Aww TY.IMHO most already knew she was the love of his life..But it was good to get the opinion of a family member..She knew him..we didn't.And again for the M1 &M2 fans.. nobody is saying he didn't love them at one time but when their relationships ended..so did communication.He kept in contact with Denise..that alone speaks volumes.



Yes purplebflogirl volumes!!!!! Thanks again for your brave question.

smile
Until the end of time
Reply #212 posted 08/19/17 7:13pm

purplefam99

rogifan said:

Rebeljuice said:

The most revealing things from part II for me are:

1) how little input the heirs seem to have regarding business decisions this late in the game.

2) How WB and the heirs seem to have very little common interest and do not seem to be on the same page.

3) How she may be as in the dark about the circumstances surrounding his death as the rest of us.

4) The heirs (or at least Sharon's) ideas going forward regarding the music is reasuring.

5) I found it a little worrying that she says they want to maintain Prince's ideals regarding swearing etc. She even seemed to imply disapointment in WB for releasing We Can Fuck. I hope this doesn't mean a whole bunch of songs will remain unreleased because the lyrics are less than clean.


Regarding #5 I have a feeling whatever the heirs have a say in will not include profanity. That doesn’t bother me. One, because I respect Prince’s feelings here and two, because I think there is be plenty of amazing music in the vault that doesn’t contain profanity.



I agree.
Reply #213 posted 08/20/17 7:59am

muleFunk

SchlomoThaHomo said:

She made a point to draw a line between the heirs and the estate, divulging that they had no say in regards to estate matters. I found this confusing. I thought the heirs WERE the estate. And who is the estate if not the heirs, why do the heirs have no say, who is/are making the current estate decisions, and who authorized whomever is making the current decisions to do so? Why is the family asking fans what they would like to see released if they have no say in what gets released?

She also said to not hold our breath in regards to remasters but didn't elaborate. These seem like the easiest and most obvious choices for posthumous releases, but she implied otherwise. So what's the problem?

The Heirs are the people entitled to the property of the deceased.

The estate is Prince's business entities that have to maintain until they are dissolved. The judge put Comerica in charge of handling the estate including opening Paisley Park as a museum, and releasing the 4Ever and PR Deluxe records.

The Family will have no say in what is released.

Reply #214 posted 08/20/17 3:14pm

Silvertongue7

That was a fantastic read, but it made me think that the less involvement the heirs have in what and how is released, the better for the fans...

Someone's in my body, someone's in my body...
Reply #215 posted 08/20/17 5:03pm

SchlomoThaHomo

muleFunk said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

She made a point to draw a line between the heirs and the estate, divulging that they had no say in regards to estate matters. I found this confusing. I thought the heirs WERE the estate. And who is the estate if not the heirs, why do the heirs have no say, who is/are making the current estate decisions, and who authorized whomever is making the current decisions to do so? Why is the family asking fans what they would like to see released if they have no say in what gets released?

She also said to not hold our breath in regards to remasters but didn't elaborate. These seem like the easiest and most obvious choices for posthumous releases, but she implied otherwise. So what's the problem?

The Heirs are the people entitled to the property of the deceased.

The estate is Prince's business entities that have to maintain until they are dissolved. The judge put Comerica in charge of handling the estate including opening Paisley Park as a museum, and releasing the 4Ever and PR Deluxe records.

The Family will have no say in what is released.


Thanks for explaining. However, it still makes no sense for them to be asking fans what we want to be released when they have no say in the matter.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #216 posted 08/21/17 1:27am

laurarichardson

SchlomoThaHomo said:

 



muleFunk said:


 



SchlomoThaHomo said:


She made a point to draw a line between the heirs and the estate, divulging that they had no say in regards to estate matters. I found this confusing. I thought the heirs WERE the estate. And who is the estate if not the heirs, why do the heirs have no say, who is/are making the current estate decisions, and who authorized whomever is making the current decisions to do so? Why is the family asking fans what they would like to see released if they have no say in what gets released?

She also said to not hold our breath in regards to remasters but didn't elaborate. These seem like the easiest and most obvious choices for posthumous releases, but she implied otherwise. So what's the problem?



 


The Heirs are the people entitled to the property of the deceased.


The estate is Prince's business entities that have to maintain until they are dissolved. The judge put Comerica in charge of handling the estate including opening Paisley Park as a museum, and releasing the 4Ever and PR Deluxe records.


 


The Family will have no say in what is released.




Thanks for explaining. However, it still makes no sense for them to be asking fans what we want to be released when they have no say in the matter.


They will inherit one day and they will have a say. That day is coming.
Reply #217 posted 08/21/17 3:52am

MMJas

databank said:

I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...

- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.

- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...

- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.

We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.

And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.

I mean, seriously.

If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.

Just my 2 cents.

Totally agree. It's her opinion. Plus, it's the only one that is no longer living, so it should get her off the hook in regards to "picking sides". That way she avoids choosing from any living ones. ; )

Reply #218 posted 08/21/17 4:55am

laurarichardson

MMJas said:

databank said:

I couldn't care less who P's greatest love was but I'd just like to kindly point out that...

- I doubt any such thing is even quantifiable. I certainly would have a hard time saying who was my greatest love, because each relationship was different, intense on different levels and for different reasons, involving very different women in very different circumstances, not to mention that I wasn't the same person at 20, 25, 30, 35 or 40, and that being in love and being in a relationship didn't mean the same then than later on than now.

- The notion of "one's greatest love" is relatively childish IMHO, very romantic and cute, but a little odd to keep entertaining after a certain age. I mean there are people who can tell for sure who was their greatest love (usually those people have been in only a few relationships), but it's up to them to tell, not others. Which brings me to...

- When I listen to even my closest friends speak about my past relationships, I often realize how hard it is for others to grasp the reality of what went on in my mind/heart, or what was really at stake in each different relationship.

We have here a man who had quite an extraordinary amount of crushes and relationships in his life, some pretty intense if we're to believe the songs only, not to mention 2 marriages. His sister was asked, and gave her opinion, that's cool. At least she knew him. But she just offered an opinion.

And the next thing we know we have dozens of people who haven't even met the man once in their life debating about matters they actually don't have a clue about.

I mean, seriously.

If there's any such thing as "Prince's love of his life", which I seriously doubt, I don't think it's up to anyone to tell but him, let alone people who have never met him at all.

Just my 2 cents.

Totally agree. It's her opinion. Plus, it's the only one that is no longer living, so it should get her off the hook in regards to "picking sides". That way she avoids choosing from any living ones. ; )

We have muliptle people who have stated this a few times now. Also because she was the love of his life it does not mean he did not get over her and move on.

Everybody has the one person that gives them those Thunderstruck moment. He obvisouly had over women and other friendships but he may never have anything like that Thuderstruck moment he had with Vanity. I believe Mayte talks about this in her book.

Reply #219 posted 08/21/17 7:20am

rogifan

muleFunk said:

 



SchlomoThaHomo said:


She made a point to draw a line between the heirs and the estate, divulging that they had no say in regards to estate matters. I found this confusing. I thought the heirs WERE the estate. And who is the estate if not the heirs, why do the heirs have no say, who is/are making the current estate decisions, and who authorized whomever is making the current decisions to do so? Why is the family asking fans what they would like to see released if they have no say in what gets released?

She also said to not hold our breath in regards to remasters but didn't elaborate. These seem like the easiest and most obvious choices for posthumous releases, but she implied otherwise. So what's the problem?



 


The Heirs are the people entitled to the property of the deceased.


The estate is Prince's business entities that have to maintain until they are dissolved. The judge put Comerica in charge of handling the estate including opening Paisley Park as a museum, and releasing the 4Ever and PR Deluxe records.


 


The Family will have no say in what is released.


How do we know they will have no say in the matter? The guy from Spotify can choose to involve the siblings if he wants. Also with Paisley Park being managed by Graceland there seems to be a distinction/separation between that and the music side of things. So far the family seems to be more involved with Paisley Park.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #220 posted 08/21/17 11:16pm

Mumio

rogifan said:

muleFunk said:

The Heirs are the people entitled to the property of the deceased.

The estate is Prince's business entities that have to maintain until they are dissolved. The judge put Comerica in charge of handling the estate including opening Paisley Park as a museum, and releasing the 4Ever and PR Deluxe records.

The Family will have no say in what is released.

How do we know they will have no say in the matter? The guy from Spotify can choose to involve the siblings if he wants. Also with Paisley Park being managed by Graceland there seems to be a distinction/separation between that and the music side of things. So far the family seems to be more involved with Paisley Park.


Pretty sure everything is detailed in the court papers if that is what you are looking for.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #221 posted 08/23/17 2:16pm

Cyn

when was the last time she spoke with Prince?? for years probably. so sad... No interest. Prince would have hate that
Reply #222 posted 08/24/17 12:29pm

LonelyStarfish

Cyn said:

when was the last time she spoke with Prince??
for years probably. so sad... No interest.
Prince would have hate that


I'd go as far as saying decades tbh.
Music is music, ultimately. If it makes you feel good, cool.

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Reply #223 posted 08/26/17 3:19am

June7

Moderator

moderator

babynoz said:

 



luvgirl said:


Are some of you guys kidding me? Prince sister divulged in a question and answer thread, that in her opinion she thought Denise Matthews was the love of Prince's life! No one is suppose to talk about it? Everyone should please shut up and go away? This is to be swept under the rug? Nothing to see here...? Lol. As this is a Prince fan site, and everyone has been talking about everything under the sun pertaining to Prince including his love life since the dawn of 2002, why stop now at Sharon's comment about Denise being the love of his life? Lol. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a debate about this.

No one will ever know for absolute certain without a doubt who the love of Prince's life was, but since people have been speculating for years that it was Vanity/Denise and since Prince's sister just stated her opinion that she thinks its Denise as well, it's kind of hard not to entertain it as a thought. I mean, if you asked me who the love of my sister's life was, I guarantee you I would get it right... and vice versa... But okay I get it, it's her opinion. But what an opinion it was! Yea, I think I'm gonna talk about this for a while. For as long as I want. Her comment is worth contemplating. You might not find this interesting, but just because you don't, doesn't mean you need to try to stop people from talking about it. Do you guys see some of the threads that are on this site? They speculate about his son! They speculate about his death! They speculate about how he did drugs, when he did drugs, how much drugs it was that he did, but no one is suppose to talk about his love life? Or is it just this one particular comment we're not supposed to talk about...? [Edited 8/18/17 18:55pm]



I agree with you....it's bullshit.  nod


Thank you for pointing out the glaring hypocrisy and double standards. I am guessing that if Sharon had named Mayte as the love of his life, this pissing and moaning and whining would not be happening. 

I do not recall the mods picking and choosing which of Sharon's words we are permitted to discuss and I agree that much more private stuff has and is being discussed here that no one seems to have a problem with. 




[There are no rules in discussing the interview or content of the interview, except to remain respectful and civil. In Sharon's opinion, it was Denise. Someone else may have a different opinion. Discussion is healthy, as are other points of view. And, in all honesty, Prince took that info with him. But, HER OPINION was that it was Denise. - June7]
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Reply #224 posted 08/26/17 3:30am

June7

Moderator

moderator

rogifan said:

Dangelus said:

 



Rebeljuice said:


The most revealing things from part II for me are:

1) how little input the heirs seem to have regarding business decisions this late in the game.

2) How WB and the heirs seem to have very little common interest and do not seem to be on the same page.

3) How she may be as in the dark about the circumstances surrounding his death as the rest of us.

4) The heirs (or at least Sharon's) ideas going forward regarding the music is reasuring.

5) I found it a little worrying that she says they want to maintain Prince's ideals regarding swearing etc. She even seemed to imply disapointment in WB for releasing We Can Fuck. I hope this doesn't mean a whole bunch of songs will remain unreleased because the lyrics are less than clean.



Regarding 5) she sort of contradicted herself a little by saying that one the one hand they would totally respect P's wishes when it came to the type of material he would want released but later stated that he issue was with PERFORMING the material and that the recordings are part of the historical record.


 


To be fair if they were going to toally respect his wishes in terms of what should be released then nothing would be released as that was his wish at the time and he left no instructions to the contrary as far as we know...


Obviously Prince still allowed all of his albums to be purchased as is. I remember when BET interviewed him during Musicology and asked him about performing songs like Head and Erotic City he replied “you got the records”. But music that hasn’t been released yet is a completely different matter IMO. I have a really hard time believing Prince would’ve signed off on any unreleased music that contained profanity. With the PR remaster he only submitted the remastered album, everything else was WB’s decision.


The fact is, he really didn't care in the end.
He left zero instructions. He gave zero f&@ks.
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

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Reply #225 posted 08/26/17 6:06am

purplefam99

June7 said:

rogifan said:


Obviously Prince still allowed all of his albums to be purchased as is. I remember when BET interviewed him during Musicology and asked him about performing songs like Head and Erotic City he replied “you got the records”. But music that hasn’t been released yet is a completely different matter IMO. I have a really hard time believing Prince would’ve signed off on any unreleased music that contained profanity. With the PR remaster he only submitted the remastered album, everything else was WB’s decision.


The fact is, he really didn't care in the end.
He left zero instructions. He gave zero f&@ks.



I think of him as he throws his guitar up when I think of him and a will.
He seemed at peace never worried.
Reply #226 posted 08/26/17 6:39pm

rogifan

June7 said:

rogifan said:


Obviously Prince still allowed all of his albums to be purchased as is. I remember when BET interviewed him during Musicology and asked him about performing songs like Head and Erotic City he replied “you got the records”. But music that hasn’t been released yet is a completely different matter IMO. I have a really hard time believing Prince would’ve signed off on any unreleased music that contained profanity. With the PR remaster he only submitted the remastered album, everything else was WB’s decision.


The fact is, he really didn't care in the end.
He left zero instructions. He gave zero f&@ks.

Why would he need to leave instructions? I think everyone knew how he felt about profanity. And if he had left instructions saying don’t release anything with profanity fans would be cool with it? I doubt it.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #227 posted 08/26/17 7:06pm

purplefam99

rogifan said:

June7 said:



The fact is, he really didn't care in the end.
He left zero instructions. He gave zero f&@ks.

Why would he need to leave instructions? I think everyone knew how he felt about profanity. And if he had left instructions saying don’t release anything with profanity fans would be cool with it? I doubt it.



I agree. Sadly I don't think the desire to respect his wishes will win over the desire for more Prince music.
Reply #228 posted 08/27/17 9:52am

poppys

Release it all and let people judge for themselves. It reflects a life lived, not cataloged. As great an artist as he was and WE are going to now censor his words, his music, his poetry? Yeah, that one Leonardo DaVinci drawing wasn't so good...

If your last December came, what would u do?
Reply #229 posted 08/27/17 1:20pm

PennyPurple

poppys said:

Release it all and let people judge for themselves. It reflects a life lived, not cataloged. As great an artist as he was and WE are going to now censor his words, his music, his poetry? Yeah, that one Leonardo DaVinci drawing wasn't so good...

yeahthat

Reply #230 posted 08/27/17 11:48pm

kremlinshadow

June7 said:

babynoz said:



I agree with you....it's bullshit. nod


Thank you for pointing out the glaring hypocrisy and double standards. I am guessing that if Sharon had named Mayte as the love of his life, this pissing and moaning and whining would not be happening.

I do not recall the mods picking and choosing which of Sharon's words we are permitted to discuss and I agree that much more private stuff has and is being discussed here that no one seems to have a problem with.


[There are no rules in discussing the interview or content of the interview, except to remain respectful and civil. In Sharon's opinion, it was Denise. Someone else may have a different opinion. Discussion is healthy, as are other points of view. And, in all honesty, Prince took that info with him. But, HER OPINION was that it was Denise. - June7]

Well that's utter BS, you deleted my comment about the interview being not very revealing and that Sharon probably didn't know him all too well. Taking things a little to personal and to the extreme when editing people's views.

Reply #231 posted 08/28/17 9:25am

williamb610

Where is part 3 of the Q&A with Sharon? I'm tired of waiting!

Reply #232 posted 08/28/17 9:35am

purplefam99

williamb610 said:

Where is part 3 of the Q&A with Sharon?  I'm tired of waiting!




I was wondering too.
Reply #233 posted 08/28/17 11:07am

nelcp777

purplefam99 said:

williamb610 said:

Where is part 3 of the Q&A with Sharon? I'm tired of waiting!

I was wondering too.

Looking forward to Part 3. It would be nice if the Org could do something similar with Prince's other brothers and sisters.

It would be nice to see how each view was different from their perspective viewpoint.

It would also be cool if the Org could pull off a Q&A with bandmembers, assistants, tech, etc.

Reply #234 posted 08/31/17 12:50am

June7

Moderator

moderator

rogifan said:

June7 said:



The fact is, he really didn't care in the end.
He left zero instructions. He gave zero f&@ks.

Why would he need to leave instructions? I think everyone knew how he felt about profanity. And if he had left instructions saying don’t release anything with profanity fans would be cool with it? I doubt it.

But, he didn't. So what's your point?
If he never wanted it heard or released he would've destroyed it.
Y'all are ridiculous thinking it should never see the light of day.
Go put your heads in the sand and listen to The Rainbow Children until you grow up. hmm
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Reply #235 posted 08/31/17 12:54am

June7

Moderator

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[Part III coming soon ... stay tuned ... but chill out ...]
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Reply #236 posted 08/31/17 1:34am

Mumio

June7 said:

But, he didn't. So what's your point? If he never wanted it heard or released he would've destroyed it. Y'all are ridiculous thinking it should never see the light of day. Go put your heads in the sand and listen to The Rainbow Children until you grow up. hmm



lol

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #237 posted 08/31/17 2:33am

TheEnglishGent

June7 said:

rogifan said:
Why would he need to leave instructions? I think everyone knew how he felt about profanity. And if he had left instructions saying don’t release anything with profanity fans would be cool with it? I doubt it.
But, he didn't. So what's your point? If he never wanted it heard or released he would've destroyed it. Y'all are ridiculous thinking it should never see the light of day. Go put your heads in the sand and listen to The Rainbow Children until you grow up. hmm


At this point we still don't know what is or isn't in the vault. For all we know he did destroy the songs wihth profanity in them.

RIP sad
Reply #238 posted 08/31/17 10:24am

james

I only read the first part, but it really sounds like they need a steer from fans about what they should be looking out for when searching the vault and deciding priorities for releases!

Reply #239 posted 09/10/17 9:37pm

206Michelle

rogifan said:

Dangelus said:

Regarding 5) she sort of contradicted herself a little by saying that one the one hand they would totally respect P's wishes when it came to the type of material he would want released but later stated that he issue was with PERFORMING the material and that the recordings are part of the historical record.

To be fair if they were going to toally respect his wishes in terms of what should be released then nothing would be released as that was his wish at the time and he left no instructions to the contrary as far as we know...

Obviously Prince still allowed all of his albums to be purchased as is. I remember when BET interviewed him during Musicology and asked him about performing songs like Head and Erotic City he replied “you got the records”. But music that hasn’t been released yet is a completely different matter IMO. I have a really hard time believing Prince would’ve signed off on any unreleased music that contained profanity. With the PR remaster he only submitted the remastered album, everything else was WB’s decision.

This is an interesting discussion. I wonder if Prince left instructions regarding his music as the property of an LLC or trust. I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that the holdings of an LLC or trust may be more private than the holdings of an estate.

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I have a hypothesis (educated guess) about what Prince wanted to happen to his unreleasec music, particularly music that would be more controversial, such as heavy on sexual content and cursing. We Can F**k from PR Deluxe is a perfect example. My hypothesis is that he wanted to abdicate the responsibility for releasing the more controversial music to others for the sake of his own salvation.

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Prince had some very contradictory beliefs and behaviors. I believe that he also dealt with some inner struggles regarding his love of sex, musical creativity, and love of God, because these were not always compatible. He spent 9 years of his life married. So I will exclude from this discussion sex during marriage because this is acceptable and expected as a part of Christian belief. Christian denominations have various levels of strictness regarding sex outside of marriage. However, as far as I know, every Christian denomination preaches as a matter of dogma that sex should take place within marriage, not outside of marriage.

.

There are numerous songs in which Prince expresses his inner conflict about sex or tries to reconcile his love of sex (while he wasn't married) and religious beliefs. In my opinion, "Temptation" is the song that best expresses the tension he felt between his love of sex (while unmarried) and his love of God. Anna Stesia is another one, and he sides with God in this song. Prince was always very concerned about his salvation. However, he continued to push the sexual boundaries of music in spite of his Christian beliefs. Then he changed in the mid-1990s because of the saddest moment of his adult life, his son’s death.

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Mayte writes in her book that prince came to believe that Amiir's death was part of the price that he had to pay for his behaviour as a younger man. Amiir's death caused him to go through soul searching, according to Mayte's book. An end result of this soul-searching was that Prince ended up becoming a Jehovah's Witness in 2001, as we all know. His music is very different pre-2001 than from 2001 and onward. There is considerably less sexual content in the music from 2001 and onward and swearing is absent from the music from 2001 and onward. The content of his music changed because he cared about his salvation and the consequences of his behaviour.

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I think that if Prince really objected to the release of We Can F**k, he would have requested the master as a part of his deal with WB in 2014 in order to prevent WB from releasing WCF. WCF is a masterpiece of epic proportions, but is to date, the most sexually explicit track of music by Prince that is released. Darling Nikki caused enough of a firestorm in the mid-80s due to its sexual content; I could only imagine how controversial WCF would have been. If Prince had released disc 2 of Purple Rain Deluxe while he was living, the powers that be of the JW faith may have raised their eyebrows at Wonderful Ass, and he could have received excommunication from the JW faith if he released WCF. He very likely would have lost the privilege to knock on people’s doors and proselytize if he released WCF while alive. But, if he really didn’t want us to hear it, he would have made arrangements to prevent its release. He wanted us to hear songs like WCF, but he didn’t want to have any role in releasing such tracks. He wanted someone else to be responsible for releasing these controversial tracks. I think that by allowing WB to release it, maybe he felt that it wouldn't impact his salvation because he wasn't directly responsible for its release. Again, this is my hypothesis.

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If he left written instructions, even handwritten notes, about what to do with the contents of the vault, respect those wishes. Otherwise, release everything that is finished.

Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #240 posted 09/10/17 9:43pm

206Michelle

June7 said:

rogifan said:
Why would he need to leave instructions? I think everyone knew how he felt about profanity. And if he had left instructions saying don’t release anything with profanity fans would be cool with it? I doubt it.
But, he didn't. So what's your point? If he never wanted it heard or released he would've destroyed it. Y'all are ridiculous thinking it should never see the light of day. Go put your heads in the sand and listen to The Rainbow Children until you grow up. hmm

Yes, I totally agree that he would have destroyed it if he didn't want us to hear it.

Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #241 posted 09/14/17 7:45pm

PennyPurple

Is part 3 in yet??

Reply #242 posted 09/19/17 6:35pm

morningsong

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Reply #243 posted 09/21/17 8:36pm

PennyPurple

Is part 3 not in yet, or have we just forgotten about it?

Reply #244 posted 09/23/17 5:12pm

206Michelle

PennyPurple said:

Is part 3 not in yet, or have we just forgotten about it?

I am wondering this also.

Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #245 posted 09/23/17 5:48pm

PennyPurple

206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said:

Is part 3 not in yet, or have we just forgotten about it?

I am wondering this also.

You would think that they would want to finish something that was started. I can't tell if they don't have the answers back, or somebody is slipping here?

Reply #246 posted 09/23/17 7:14pm

Lovejunky

PennyPurple said:

Is part 3 not in yet, or have we just forgotten about it?

Im guessing that SHaron hasnt submitted part three yet...

I doubt June 7 would just leave it lying around in her email folder....

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #247 posted 09/24/17 9:46am

Sifi

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

Is part 3 not in yet, or have we just forgotten about it?

Im guessing that SHaron hasnt submitted part three yet...

I doubt June 7 would just leave it lying around in her email folder....

I believe the advise was:

[Part III coming soon ... stay tuned ... but chill out ...]

Reply #248 posted 09/24/17 11:53am

PennyPurple

Sifi said:

Lovejunky said:

Im guessing that SHaron hasnt submitted part three yet...

I doubt June 7 would just leave it lying around in her email folder....

I believe the advise was:

[Part III coming soon ... stay tuned ... but chill out ...]

That was almost 1 MONTH ago. mad

Reply #249 posted 09/25/17 5:01am

Dibblekins

206Michelle said:

June7 said:

rogifan said: But, he didn't. So what's your point? If he never wanted it heard or released he would've destroyed it. Y'all are ridiculous thinking it should never see the light of day. Go put your heads in the sand and listen to The Rainbow Children until you grow up. hmm

Yes, I totally agree that he would have destroyed it if he didn't want us to hear it.

Yes - remember, there is a Musicology-era TV interview where the interviewer begged him to play 'Head' and 'Erotic City' one more time in concert. Prince said (and I am paraphrasing here), 'no - I have to think of the kids present - but you can always listen to them on record'.

Reply #250 posted 09/26/17 9:35pm

Bassette

I stayed tuned...chilled out...but I ' m stiiiiil waaaiiiiting, waaaaiiiiting for part III.
Reply #251 posted 09/29/17 1:12pm

June7

Moderator

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[I HAVE RECEIVED THE III'D INSTALLMENT - WORKING ON IT NOW]

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Reply #252 posted 10/01/17 1:44am

Knightoflight

June7 said:

[I HAVE RECEIVED THE III'D INSTALLMENT - WORKING ON IT NOW]

good news!

Reply #253 posted 10/09/17 8:41am

databank

rogifan said:

databank said:

I'm extremely pleased to learn that Sharon and the other heirs seem to wish to get off the majors' boat, then self-release a great quantity of what's in the vault thru an indie label and an NPGMC type of site. This is quite reassuring and if things are to go that way, I can only wish for the heirs to get control of the estate soon. If anything, Ms. Nelson seems to be a very sensible person. I hope this interview will restore a sense of trust in the Nelson family's capacity to run things properly.


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The only thing that bothers me is the part about not releasing material that "Prince would not have wanted released", because for one thing I find it hard to decide when exactly one should draw that that line, and as Sharon herself said, Prince changing his ways doesn't mean that what had existed does not exist anymore. My belief is that everything can and should be released on the long run: Prince's body of work makes it clear that he had changed his perspective and his later work is a testimony to that, so I fail to see why releasing earlier work with profanity or outrageous content is disrespectful to him as long as the listener is informed of when such material was recorded. Hell, save maybe those 2 infamous rape lines, I fail to see how anything could be worse than Sister, Head, Darling Nikki or The Black Album. However I am not the person in charge, neither did I know Prince personally, so this is just my opinion for what it's worth.


I’m not aware of Prince changing his opinion on profanity (late in his life). I think it’s easy to draw the line there. Everything else should be based on how good the music is. I’m not one who thinks everything from the vault should be released. Quantity doesn’t always equal quality. Obviously deciding what is quality is subjective but somebody/bodies will have to do it.

Even quality should not be an issue on the long run. Unfinished, transitional or weak tracks are like a painter's sketch on a notebook: when the time has come for posterity, everything should be made public. Hell, even great artists' personal correspondance are being published. Those works should not be judged as a new album by a living artist is, but studied as elements of their creative process.
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Reply #254 posted 10/09/17 9:30am

Bohemian67

Great Q&A, thanks!

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