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Thread started 12/11/17 5:11pm

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The Vault Masters Have Been Moved to Iron Mountain in California - Part 2

Since the first thread has self locked....... I have created a 2nd thread to continue the discussion.

1st thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/447891

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Reply #1 posted 12/12/17 3:03am

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Someone on Twitter raised the question of why - out of all the Iron Mountain facilities - was Los Angeles chosen rather than a location closer to the Paisley Park studios, like the one in St Paul maybe?

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Reply #2 posted 12/12/17 5:17am

1Sasha

IMO people have to understand that the two locations do not afford the same services to the estate. Also, the entertainment industry is in California, for the most part. Do we know who owns what, in terms of the work product sent to California? This is big business, and the estate needs to generate as much cash as it can. This move was needed in order to maintain the integrity of the work product and to insure future earnings.

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Reply #3 posted 12/12/17 6:15am

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CherryMoon57 said:

Someone on Twitter raised the question of why - out of all the Iron Mountain facilities - was Los Angeles chosen rather than a location closer to the Paisley Park studios, like the one in St Paul maybe?

From my understanding from Comerica's response is that the St. Paul facility is only set up for documents and not recording preservation. The LA location is designed for media preservation.

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Reply #4 posted 12/12/17 7:53am

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^That makes sense, thanks 1Sasha and nelcp777.

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Reply #5 posted 12/12/17 9:24am

FlyOnTheWall

Iron Mountain's Pennsylvania location offers the same services, but the storage vaults are not in the same proximity as they are in California. I still think moving Prince's artifacts to California, with its perennial wildfires and the constant threat of catastrophic earthquakes, was a bad idea...but apparently, the Estate has no similar concerns. Let us hope that none of these concerns ever become an issue.

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Reply #6 posted 12/12/17 10:09am

morningsong

Dang, this facility is all over the world. Anyway, isn't the on in PA a government facility?

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Reply #7 posted 12/12/17 1:20pm

FlyOnTheWall

morningsong said:

Dang, this facility is all over the world. Anyway, isn't the on in PA a government facility?

According to recent court filings, an Iron Mountain executive indicated that the PA facility offers similar services to the LA Entertainment Division except for the proximity of the storage vault.

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Reply #8 posted 12/12/17 1:39pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

morningsong said:

Dang, this facility is all over the world. Anyway, isn't the on in PA a government facility?

According to recent court filings, an Iron Mountain executive indicated that the PA facility offers similar services to the LA Entertainment Division except for the proximity of the storage vault.



Gotcha.


I see Ozzy did a tour of the underground PA facility. Bill Gates has stuff there. Can't find anything about the LA facility, beyond ads for it, and job applications.

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Reply #9 posted 12/12/17 2:31pm

FlyOnTheWall

morningsong said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

According to recent court filings, an Iron Mountain executive indicated that the PA facility offers similar services to the LA Entertainment Division except for the proximity of the storage vault.



Gotcha.


I see Ozzy did a tour of the underground PA facility. Bill Gates has stuff there. Can't find anything about the LA facility, beyond ads for it, and job applications.

Here you go.


http://www.ironmountain.c...l-heritage

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Reply #10 posted 12/12/17 3:46pm

morningsong

Thanks!


This is what I was curious about:

The best way to preserve a master recording? Make sure it’s well cared for from the start. That’s where Iron Mountain comes into play. Entertainment Services borrows from a 60-year heritage of respected best practices in records management, including unrivaled levels of secure storage (including underground, climate-controlled and guarded facilities) and ironclad chain of custody processes to make its digital magic happen.


To me this is interesting:

Now it’s no longer necessary for an attendant to go to the vault, pull a cartridge or tape off the shelf (robotics handle this now) and ship it out to another facility for conversion. The totally onsite process gives the owners of valuable recordings peace of mind, as they know they’re protected against mishaps in transit. “The tapes really never see the light of day,” notes Anthony.

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Reply #11 posted 12/13/17 3:58am

1Sasha

Frankly, if the work product was destroyed in a fire or an earthquake, what would be the difference? We haven't heard or seen what was there, so if it is lost, no harm, no foul. JMO but if we hear or see anything new over the next years, it will be a bonus. A gift.

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Reply #12 posted 12/13/17 8:24am

FlyOnTheWall

1Sasha said:

Frankly, if the work product was destroyed in a fire or an earthquake, what would be the difference? We haven't heard or seen what was there, so if it is lost, no harm, no foul. JMO but if we hear or see anything new over the next years, it will be a bonus. A gift.

WOW.

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Reply #13 posted 12/13/17 8:29am

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1Sasha said:

Frankly, if the work product was destroyed in a fire or an earthquake, what would be the difference? We haven't heard or seen what was there, so if it is lost, no harm, no foul. JMO but if we hear or see anything new over the next years, it will be a bonus. A gift.


Like I'd said, no expectations no disappointments. Anything will be a gift. nod

I don't worry about it either because if it was THAT good, Prince would have given it to us already.

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Reply #14 posted 12/16/17 8:56pm

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The siblings tried to move the material and judge denied.
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Reply #15 posted 12/21/17 2:49pm

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Mumio said:

1Sasha said:

Frankly, if the work product was destroyed in a fire or an earthquake, what would be the difference? We haven't heard or seen what was there, so if it is lost, no harm, no foul. JMO but if we hear or see anything new over the next years, it will be a bonus. A gift.


Like I'd said, no expectations no disappointments. Anything will be a gift. nod

I don't worry about it either because if it was THAT good, Prince would have given it to us already.

lol

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Reply #16 posted 12/21/17 5:00pm

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Actually the above post is wrong thinking and assuming.

Several band members and collaborators said that Prince would often shelve to the vault what they perceived to be the best stuff.

And unless Minnesota steps in to preserve Pasiely Park as a landmark,
That space requires money to run...so extra material is important to the future of Paisley upkeep.

I do agree with no expectations no disappointment...but if it's trashed it is a Loss to estate assets.
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Reply #17 posted 12/21/17 7:33pm

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sexyisintheimagination said:

Actually the above post is wrong thinking and assuming. Several band members and collaborators said that Prince would often shelve to the vault what they perceived to be the best stuff. And unless Minnesota steps in to preserve Pasiely Park as a landmark, That space requires money to run...so extra material is important to the future of Paisley upkeep. I do agree with no expectations no disappointment...but if it's trashed it is a Loss to estate assets.



Well, there you have it. That's the difference between what I said and what you say.

Here's my comment: I don't worry about it either because if it was THAT good, Prince would have given it to us already.

I stand by that. nod lol

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Reply #18 posted 12/22/17 5:28am

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To each their own.

The reason it's not released a lot of it Prince said is that the world wasn't ready for it... not that it's throw away not good enough.
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Reply #19 posted 12/26/17 7:10pm

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The material in the vault may also contain several projects of Rosie Gains who is now having issues with in and out of homelessness. Her work which she said was 5 projects of material could improve her life. So the vault isn't about just Prince.
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Reply #20 posted 12/26/17 9:30pm

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Of course the vault is all about Prince. It was HIS vault.

Was it suggested that it would be a good idea to contact PRN Alumni Foundation in regard to assistance for Rosie? That is what they are there for, to help those who worked with Prince. They have a FB page as well as a website here: https://www.facebook.com/PRNalumniFDN/


I have personally spent money on items from the foundation and have seen others posting here and on Facebook who have done the same. People on FB have been raving about the candles sold there. It seems like contacting them would be the best resource for assistance for her at this time.

Sorry for veering away from the thread topic everyone confused

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Reply #21 posted 12/31/17 1:36pm

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Mumio said:

Of course the vault is all about Prince. It was HIS vault.

Was it suggested that it would be a good idea to contact PRN Alumni Foundation in regard to assistance for Rosie? That is what they are there for, to help those who worked with Prince. They have a FB page as well as a website here: https://www.facebook.com/PRNalumniFDN/


I have personally spent money on items from the foundation and have seen others posting here and on Facebook who have done the same. People on FB have been raving about the candles sold there. It seems like contacting them would be the best resource for assistance for her at this time.

Sorry for veering away from the thread topic everyone confused

Those candles sold out fast, didn't they?

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Reply #22 posted 12/31/17 2:40pm

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PennyPurple said:

Mumio said:

Of course the vault is all about Prince. It was HIS vault.

Was it suggested that it would be a good idea to contact PRN Alumni Foundation in regard to assistance for Rosie? That is what they are there for, to help those who worked with Prince. They have a FB page as well as a website here: https://www.facebook.com/PRNalumniFDN/


I have personally spent money on items from the foundation and have seen others posting here and on Facebook who have done the same. People on FB have been raving about the candles sold there. It seems like contacting them would be the best resource for assistance for her at this time.

Sorry for veering away from the thread topic everyone confused

Those candles sold out fast, didn't they?


Lol, they were gone before I even knew about them. I thought they were really pricey though.

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Reply #23 posted 12/31/17 6:46pm

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Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

Those candles sold out fast, didn't they?


Lol, they were gone before I even knew about them. I thought they were really pricey though.

I know, right. Makes me want one even more! lol It will go well when I redo my bedroom in the Love Symbol 2 color.

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Reply #24 posted 01/01/18 12:50am

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PennyPurple said:

Mumio said:


Lol, they were gone before I even knew about them. I thought they were really pricey though.

I know, right. Makes me want one even more! lol It will go well when I redo my bedroom in the Love Symbol 2 color.


People in different places are saying the scent is wonderful. You'll have to let me know smile

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Reply #25 posted 01/02/18 2:33pm

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Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

I know, right. Makes me want one even more! lol It will go well when I redo my bedroom in the Love Symbol 2 color.


People in different places are saying the scent is wonderful. You'll have to let me know smile

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The candles are back in stock, but they are $49.99, I don't know why I thought they were 19.99 the other day. eek I can't do 50 bucks for candles. sad

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Reply #26 posted 01/02/18 7:04pm

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PennyPurple said:

Mumio said:


People in different places are saying the scent is wonderful. You'll have to let me know smile

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The candles are back in stock, but they are $49.99, I don't know why I thought they were 19.99 the other day. eek I can't do 50 bucks for candles. sad


Lol, oh yeah....that's why I said they were pricey. 19.99 would have been doable smile

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Reply #27 posted 01/06/18 1:33pm

42Kristen

Here in California. Prince's vault is well safe under the hands of Warner Bros. Prince resigned with them back in 2014. Some of the music was done back in the late '70's and throughout the years. It still belongs none other Warner Bros. wink

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Reply #28 posted 01/06/18 2:53pm

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42Kristen said:

Here in California. Prince's vault is well safe under the hands of Warner Bros. Prince resigned with them back in 2014. Some of the music was done back in the late '70's and throughout the years. It still belongs none other Warner Bros. wink

The vault isn't in the hands of WB.

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Reply #29 posted 01/10/18 8:05pm

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But who knows if any hanky panky is going on? Can anyone honestly say there is not some mess happening to some of his material???!!!

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