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Reply #60 posted 01/10/18 12:50pm

Rev

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purple05 said:

rogifan said:
No I’m saying if official videos can go up on YouTube why can’t the albums become available on more platforms than Tidal? That’s why I wondered if there’s legal reasons this stuff is only on Tidal right now.
Yea I think they are still trying to work that out. Does anyone know how expensive it would be to put his albums back into print? Or should it be slowly done

Comerica has to go to the siblings for any contract over 2 million, I think this would reach that number. I would say we're waiting. Not me, I have multiple copies of most of the albums razz

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Reply #61 posted 01/10/18 4:28pm

rogifan

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purple05 said:


rogifan said:
No I’m saying if official videos can go up on YouTube why can’t the albums become available on more platforms than Tidal? That’s why I wondered if there’s legal reasons this stuff is only on Tidal right now.

Yea I think they are still trying to work that out. Does anyone know how expensive it would be to put his albums back into print? Or should it be slowly done



Comerica has to go to the siblings for any contract over 2 million, I think this would reach that number. I would say we're waiting. Not me, I have multiple copies of most of the albums razz


Ok but no albums have been pulled from Apple Music or Spotify.
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Reply #62 posted 01/10/18 9:36pm

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rogifan said:

Rev said:

Comerica has to go to the siblings for any contract over 2 million, I think this would reach that number. I would say we're waiting. Not me, I have multiple copies of most of the albums razz

Ok but no albums have been pulled from Apple Music or Spotify.

I am confused by what you are asking.

I thought you said Ps music was only on Tidal but you said above no albums have been pulled from Spotify or Apple?

I only have P's CDs and Amazon streaming.

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Reply #63 posted 01/11/18 1:43am

rogifan

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rogifan said:


Rev said:




Comerica has to go to the siblings for any contract over 2 million, I think this would reach that number. I would say we're waiting. Not me, I have multiple copies of most of the albums razz



Ok but no albums have been pulled from Apple Music or Spotify.

I am confused by what you are asking.


I thought you said Ps music was only on Tidal but you said above no albums have been pulled from Spotify or Apple?


I only have P's CDs and Amazon streaming.


WB albums were put on streaming services other than Tidal. Anything after Come but before AOA is only available on Tidal (and some of those albums might even be missing from Tidal). As far as I know none of the sibs have asked for the WB albums to be removed from non-Tidal streaming sites. And videos for non-WB released music are going up on the official YouTube channel (which appears to be maintained by WB). So I ask what is the holdup in getting the rest of his work on Spotify & Apple Music? Is Tidal preventing it right now?
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Reply #64 posted 01/11/18 8:00am

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rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I am confused by what you are asking.

I thought you said Ps music was only on Tidal but you said above no albums have been pulled from Spotify or Apple?

I only have P's CDs and Amazon streaming.

WB albums were put on streaming services other than Tidal. Anything after Come but before AOA is only available on Tidal (and some of those albums might even be missing from Tidal). As far as I know none of the sibs have asked for the WB albums to be removed from non-Tidal streaming sites. And videos for non-WB released music are going up on the official YouTube channel (which appears to be maintained by WB). So I ask what is the holdup in getting the rest of his work on Spotify & Apple Music? Is Tidal preventing it right now?

I think most of it is held by the estate. Even if Tidal was resolved. They are still monetizing the catalogue. A lot of this is seems to be the same as when he passed. Except for Tidal tossing most of his stuff afterwards.

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Reply #65 posted 01/11/18 9:53am

soladeo1

Idea for New Releases From The Estate:

Release Prince's classic albums as extended sets and mini-events.

For example, release DIRTY MIND in late 2018 w/:

1) CD1: Remaster of the original 8-track LP, available as download, streaming, CD, and

limited edition LP

2) CD2: All Dirty Mind-era b-sides and unreleased tracks, all re-mastered too.

For example, the songs:

- Gotta Stop Messin' About

- Lisa

- American Jam

- Broken

- Big Brass Bed

- When The Shit Comes Down

- Eros

- Plastic Love Affair

- Bulgaria

3) CD3: Prince Live From The Ritz: The Dirty Mind Tour: New York, New York, March 22nd, 1981

The whole concert w/ the audio cleaned-up, re-mastered, etc.

Also, around the release of the albums - commission a hot, young artist to peform a cover from DIRTY MIND. For example, St. Vincent doing a version of the title song, etc. Have the artist perform the song and release a video for mass consumption.

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Reply #66 posted 01/11/18 7:46pm

rap

L. Londell McMillan Is Still Defending His Actions With Prince's Estate After Jay Z's Criticism

www.complex.com/music/2018/01/londell-mcmillan-still-defending-actions-prince-estate-jay-z-criticism

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Reply #67 posted 01/11/18 8:34pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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rap said:

L. Londell McMillan Is Still Defending His Actions With Prince's Estate After Jay Z's Criticism

www.complex.com/music/2018/01/londell-mcmillan-still-defending-actions-prince-estate-jay-z-criticism

No one loves Lawnie more than Lawnie.

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Reply #68 posted 01/11/18 10:29pm

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L. Londell McMillan Is Still Defending His Actions With Prince's Estate After Jay Z's Criticism

www.complex.com/music/2018/01/londell-mcmillan-still-defending-actions-prince-estate-jay-z-criticism

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He did not address the points of criticism.

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Reply #69 posted 01/12/18 6:08pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No one loves Lawnie more than Lawnie.

pimp2



Dude! Where the hell is The Equilizer? lol lol Never around when ya wanna hear from him!

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Reply #70 posted 01/12/18 6:09pm

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udo said:

rap said:

L. Londell McMillan Is Still Defending His Actions With Prince's Estate After Jay Z's Criticism

www.complex.com/music/2018/01/londell-mcmillan-still-defending-actions-prince-estate-jay-z-criticism

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He did not address the points of criticism.



lol He addressed his points of concern lol

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Reply #71 posted 01/13/18 3:38am

udo

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Mumio said:

udo said:

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He did not address the points of criticism.



lol He addressed his points of concern lol

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nod

the points of criticism == our points of criticism.

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Reply #72 posted 01/13/18 4:22pm

TheEquilizer

Mumio said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No one loves Lawnie more than Lawnie.

pimp2



Dude! Where the hell is The Equilizer? lol lol Never around when ya wanna hear from him!

You called, whatchoo need Mumz?

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Reply #73 posted 01/13/18 5:15pm

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TheEquilizer said:

Mumio said:



Dude! Where the hell is The Equilizer? lol lol Never around when ya wanna hear from him!

You called, whatchoo need Mumz?



Well, Udo apparently has some questions about this article here. Can you provide some answers lol

You could also give us some of the finer figures that make up that "almost $100 million in less than nine months". You know smile Since you put it out there and all.

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Reply #74 posted 01/13/18 9:47pm

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Equilizer doesnt have the answers

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Reply #75 posted 01/13/18 10:18pm

206Michelle

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rogifan said:


If the official Musicology music video can go up on YouTube why isn’t the album available for sale in iTunes or streaming on Spotify or Apple Music? Why the f—k is it so difficult to get access to albums between Come and AOA outside of Tidal (and in the case of TGE anywhere at all)? Can they at least figure out how to make Musicology and 3121 available? I’d throw in LotusFlow3r too but not sure if he partnered with a major label on that one or not.


some of these albums can be found on ebay


But are the eBay copies legit or are they bootlegs?
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Reply #76 posted 01/13/18 10:37pm

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I have seen actual CDs and a few that had the original packaging on them, never been open.

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Reply #77 posted 01/14/18 2:01am

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Mumio said:

TheEquilizer said:

You called, whatchoo need Mumz?



Well, Udo apparently has some questions about this article here. Can you provide some answers lol

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Easy:

- Londell, did you pay back the UMG commission yet?

- If not: what is the status of the 'discussion' according to yourself?

- What is the strategy you follow for the heirs that chose to hire you as adviser?

- How can we observe that this is in fact the strategy you implement and how does this benefit the heirs or even the estate?

- Why can you serve them when Prince `let you go`?

- Mentioning 100 million is useless as it is a one dimensional number; no cost of production or other overhead such as your cost is mentioned at all; so what percentage of that goed to 'representation' such as you and similar types provide? What income was one-time (i.e. stuff was sold and will not return, cannot be reused, etc) and how will that benefit the Estate in the longer run?

etc, etc

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Reply #78 posted 01/14/18 2:42pm

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Reply #79 posted 01/14/18 3:46pm

Mumio

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Good questions Udo!

C'mon Equilizer, we're waiting on you lol



udo said:

Mumio said:



Well, Udo apparently has some questions about this article here. Can you provide some answers lol

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Easy:

- Londell, did you pay back the UMG commission yet?

- If not: what is the status of the 'discussion' according to yourself?

- What is the strategy you follow for the heirs that chose to hire you as adviser?

- How can we observe that this is in fact the strategy you implement and how does this benefit the heirs or even the estate?

- Why can you serve them when Prince `let you go`?

- Mentioning 100 million is useless as it is a one dimensional number; no cost of production or other overhead such as your cost is mentioned at all; so what percentage of that goed to 'representation' such as you and similar types provide? What income was one-time (i.e. stuff was sold and will not return, cannot be reused, etc) and how will that benefit the Estate in the longer run?

etc, etc

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Reply #80 posted 01/15/18 9:07pm

udo

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Mumio said:

Good questions Udo!

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We could also ask if Lonny counts the UMG millions towards the 100M USD number.

(he and Mike earned it and the Estate returned it, so I guess so)

So the number is likely inflated.

Truth is that nothing is going forward w.r.t. monetizing on non-WB materials AFAWK.

Also, because of the botched UMG deal, the price will be lower for the next party showing interest.

Thanks Lonny!

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When can we expect his book?

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Where does his 'índustry expertise' really count if it didn't in the UMG deal's case?

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Reply #81 posted 01/16/18 12:07pm

tmo1965

In case you wanna know, Claire has allegedly gotten remarried: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...lliott.pdf

lol

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Reply #82 posted 01/16/18 1:26pm

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tmo1965 said:

In case you wanna know, Claire has allegedly gotten remarried: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...lliott.pdf

lol

OH SHEESH! Will it never end?

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Reply #83 posted 01/16/18 6:18pm

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Anyone read the detailing of how much money was wasted dealing with the attempts to remove Comerica from the case? Unbelievable.

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Reply #84 posted 01/17/18 11:48am

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Mumio said:

Anyone read the detailing of how much money was wasted dealing with the attempts to remove Comerica from the case? Unbelievable.



Bunches.

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― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
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Reply #85 posted 01/18/18 6:44am

udo

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tmo1965 said:

In case you wanna know, Claire has allegedly gotten remarried: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...lliott.pdf

lol

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Hmm. There's no other Female fan (not M) around that speaks Dutch?

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Reply #86 posted 01/18/18 12:47pm

CandyCool

udo said:



tmo1965 said:


In case you wanna know, Claire has allegedly gotten remarried: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...lliott.pdf




lol



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Hmm. There's no other Female fan (not M) around that speaks Dutch?



Jawel!

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Reply #87 posted 01/18/18 1:24pm

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lol

http://minnlawyer.com/201...r-returns/

lol

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She further claims that a will exists naming her sole legal heir of the late Prince Rogers Nelson, but has yet to produce it. She did however, produce an alternative document as proof that Prince sacrificed his life for her. It contains the lyrics to “I Would Die for U.” (Elliott says she co-wrote that one.)

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lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #88 posted 01/18/18 3:09pm

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cloveringold85 said:

lol

http://minnlawyer.com/201...r-returns/

lol

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She further claims that a will exists naming her sole legal heir of the late Prince Rogers Nelson, but has yet to produce it. She did however, produce an alternative document as proof that Prince sacrificed his life for her. It contains the lyrics to “I Would Die for U.” (Elliott says she co-wrote that one.)

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lol

lol

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Reply #89 posted 01/18/18 5:02pm

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TheEquilizer said:



Mumio said:




ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



No one loves Lawnie more than Lawnie.


pimp2





Dude! Where the hell is The Equilizer? lol lol Never around when ya wanna hear from him!



You called, whatchoo need Mumz?


We need to know why your homeboy is making a jackass out of himself with his lies. The attorney who reviewed his work certainly did not find his work to have done much of anything for the estate. It is in writing for all the works to see it is just that he got those 3 chowder heads to nod along with his bull.
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