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Upcoming Prince album (Non-WB Material, TIDAL, 2019)

Tidal, Prince Estate agree to release new album in 2019




https://www.rollingstone....um-w520211

"Our only goal is to share Prince's music with his fans as he wanted," Jay-Z says of 2019 album

Tidal and the Prince estate announced Friday that, after a lengthy legal battle, the streaming service will debut a new and unreleased Prince album. Due out in 2019, the album will feature a collection of previously unreleased music from Prince's legendary Vault.

Tidal will stream the album exclusively for 14 days as well as make the LP available for download a week after its debut. After that period, the Prince estate will handle the global physical release of the collection.
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Reply #1 posted 05/11/18 11:02am

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cool cool

Cool to hear any new music from any source at this point.

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Reply #2 posted 05/11/18 11:12am

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Also reported by Rolling Stone. Release date: 2019

https://www.rollingstone....um-w520211

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Reply #3 posted 05/11/18 11:17am

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Fingers crossed for newer non warners stuff - maybe phase three? The word ‘compiling’ is a little worrying - sounding as if there isn’t something that was kinda ready to go. Really hope for Black is the new black but isn’t that rumoured to be with bluenote. But this could be good news. New stuff - which I would prefer from tidal and historic old stuff from Warner’s.

They should fall out and try to outdo the others release. 2019 tho. That’s a bit of a wait!
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Reply #4 posted 05/11/18 11:26am

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"It’s noted in the release that the Prince estate’s partnership with Tidal “'does not involve any of Prince’s music catalogue that is subject to prior agreements with Warner Brothers Records.'”

Sounds to me like this will be non-Warner Bros era material.

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Reply #5 posted 05/11/18 11:27am

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so now if the siblings could release something ..we get 3 cds ..

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Reply #6 posted 05/11/18 11:32am

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Good.

Hopefully this finally resolves speculation here about any wrongdoing on Tidal's part.

Far from having to remove music or be penalised, Tidal are receiving an additional album of unreleased music.
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Reply #7 posted 05/11/18 11:35am

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The Prince Estate and global music and entertainment platform TIDAL confirm plans to debut highly anticipated new Prince music exclusively via the TIDAL streaming service. The new album will contain previously unreleased music sourced from Prince's vast archive of Vault recordings.

The album – expected to be released in 2019 – will stream exclusively on TIDAL for fourteen days and will be available for download seven days after its debut. A global physical release is planned via The Prince Estate following the exclusive digital premiere on TIDAL. The new release marks a continuation of Prince's 2015 partnership with TIDAL, which resulted in the exclusive debut of HITnRUN Phase One and HITnRUN Phase Two via the streaming service. This concludes the previously unresolved legal matters between The Prince Estate and TIDAL.

The Prince Estate and Jay-Z are working together on the song selection for the album. "Our only goal is to share Prince's music with his fans as he wanted. After thoughtful and honest conversation with him, he chose TIDAL as his partner for HITnRUN Phase One and HITnRUN Phase Two, and we will continue to respect and honor Prince's enduring legacy and wishes with this new collection," Jay-Z said. Troy Carter, speaking on behalf of The Prince Estate, echoed those sentiments, noting "I'm very pleased this is resolved, and we get to honor the relationship between Prince and TIDAL with this album. We look forward to fans hearing the new music and experiencing the genius of Prince."

The album partnership with TIDAL does not involve any of Prince's music catalogue that is subject to prior agreements with Warner Brothers Records, Inc. The agreement between TIDAL and The Prince Estate was approved on May 9, 2018 by the Probate Court overseeing The Prince Estate.


There's the full press release.



So we know:



- This is vault material from the post Warner era.

- The estate and Jay-Z are working on song selection for the album.

- 2019 release date.

- Stream exclusive to Tidal for 14 days.

- Available for digital purchase after 7 days.

- The estate is going to handle the physical release globally.

- The legal matters between the Estate and Tidal have been settled.

[Edited 5/11/18 11:40am]

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Reply #8 posted 05/11/18 11:37am

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I Hope this is separate from the Sept 28th release.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #9 posted 05/11/18 11:42am

Strive

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I Hope this is separate from the Sept 28th release.


It is. That is being handle by Warner Bros and will contain WB era vault material.

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Reply #10 posted 05/11/18 11:43am

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Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time.

Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more.
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Reply #11 posted 05/11/18 11:44am

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Strive said:


The Prince Estate and global music and entertainment platform TIDAL confirm plans to debut highly anticipated new Prince music exclusively via the TIDAL streaming service. The new album will contain previously unreleased music sourced from Prince's vast archive of Vault recordings.

The album – expected to be released in 2019 – will stream exclusively on TIDAL for fourteen days and will be available for download seven days after its debut. A global physical release is planned via The Prince Estate following the exclusive digital premiere on TIDAL. The new release marks a continuation of Prince's 2015 partnership with TIDAL, which resulted in the exclusive debut of HITnRUN Phase One and HITnRUN Phase Two via the streaming service. This concludes the previously unresolved legal matters between The Prince Estate and TIDAL.


The Prince Estate and Jay-Z are working together on the song selection for the album. "Our only goal is to share Prince's music with his fans as he wanted. After thoughtful and honest conversation with him, he chose TIDAL as his partner for HITnRUN Phase One and HITnRUN Phase Two, and we will continue to respect and honor Prince's enduring legacy and wishes with this new collection," Jay-Z said. Troy Carter, speaking on behalf of The Prince Estate, echoed those sentiments, noting "I'm very pleased this is resolved, and we get to honor the relationship between Prince and TIDAL with this album. We look forward to fans hearing the new music and experiencing the genius of Prince."


The album partnership with TIDAL does not involve any of Prince's music catalogue that is subject to prior agreements with Warner Brothers Records, Inc. The agreement between TIDAL and The Prince Estate was approved on May 9, 2018 by the Probate Court overseeing The Prince Estate.




There's the full press release.





So we know:





- This is vault material from the post Warner era.


- The estate and Jay-Z are working on song selection for the album.


- 2019 release date.


- Stream exclusive to Tidal for 14 days.


- Available for digital purchase after 7 days.


- The estate is going to handle the physical release globally.


- The legal matters between the Estate and Tidal have been settled.

[Edited 5/11/18 11:40am]


So how does the settling of Tidals steaming rights on a limited number of P’s albums for a limited number of years end up with Jay Z diving into the vaults and being involved with a new album release? Doesn’t make sense to me
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Reply #12 posted 05/11/18 11:46am

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So after 7 days it will be available for download on Tidal and after 14 days available on other streaming services?
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Reply #13 posted 05/11/18 11:46am

laytonian

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I Hope this is separate from the Sept 28th release.

That's my question, also -- but I'm sure it is.

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But the bad news is this: The judge approved the short-term Tidal deal over the objections of SNJ who claimed that this was not a good enough deal. SNJ had been given the opportunity to come up with a higher bidder, but could not/did not.

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Obviously, the infighting has harmed the estate's future.

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Reply #14 posted 05/11/18 11:47am

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purplemist7777 said:

Strive said:


The Prince Estate and global music and entertainment platform TIDAL confirm plans to debut highly anticipated new Prince music exclusively via the TIDAL streaming service. The new album will contain previously unreleased music sourced from Prince's vast archive of Vault recordings.

The album – expected to be released in 2019 – will stream exclusively on TIDAL for fourteen days and will be available for download seven days after its debut. A global physical release is planned via The Prince Estate following the exclusive digital premiere on TIDAL. The new release marks a continuation of Prince's 2015 partnership with TIDAL, which resulted in the exclusive debut of HITnRUN Phase One and HITnRUN Phase Two via the streaming service. This concludes the previously unresolved legal matters between The Prince Estate and TIDAL.


The Prince Estate and Jay-Z are working together on the song selection for the album. "Our only goal is to share Prince's music with his fans as he wanted. After thoughtful and honest conversation with him, he chose TIDAL as his partner for HITnRUN Phase One and HITnRUN Phase Two, and we will continue to respect and honor Prince's enduring legacy and wishes with this new collection," Jay-Z said. Troy Carter, speaking on behalf of The Prince Estate, echoed those sentiments, noting "I'm very pleased this is resolved, and we get to honor the relationship between Prince and TIDAL with this album. We look forward to fans hearing the new music and experiencing the genius of Prince."


The album partnership with TIDAL does not involve any of Prince's music catalogue that is subject to prior agreements with Warner Brothers Records, Inc. The agreement between TIDAL and The Prince Estate was approved on May 9, 2018 by the Probate Court overseeing The Prince Estate.




There's the full press release.





So we know:





- This is vault material from the post Warner era.


- The estate and Jay-Z are working on song selection for the album.


- 2019 release date.


- Stream exclusive to Tidal for 14 days.


- Available for digital purchase after 7 days.


- The estate is going to handle the physical release globally.


- The legal matters between the Estate and Tidal have been settled.

[Edited 5/11/18 11:40am]


So how does the settling of Tidals steaming rights on a limited number of P’s albums for a limited number of years end up with Jay Z diving into the vaults and being involved with a new album release? Doesn’t make sense to me


Because Tidal were owed another album as per Prince's original deal and were not guilty of any wrongdoing.
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Reply #15 posted 05/11/18 11:47am

laytonian

purplemist7777 said:


So how does the settling of Tidals steaming rights on a limited number of P’s albums for a limited number of years end up with Jay Z diving into the vaults and being involved with a new album release? Doesn’t make sense to me

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This is a short-term, one-album deal only.

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Reply #16 posted 05/11/18 11:50am

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PRNelson said:

Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time.

Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more.


Prince had an existing deal with Tidal and was still providing exclusive music to the service just days before his death. The Estate are now merely choosing to honour that deal.
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Reply #17 posted 05/11/18 11:51am

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rogifan said:

So after 7 days it will be available for download on Tidal and after 14 days available on other streaming services?

what they mean is a week before it is on tidal it will leak and we will all have it anyway

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #18 posted 05/11/18 11:53am

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A few more details here than answer many of the questions above:

http://variety.com/2018/b...202807371/
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Reply #19 posted 05/11/18 11:54am

PRNelson

OperatingThetan said:

PRNelson said:

Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time.

Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more.


Prince had an existing deal with Tidal and was still providing exclusive music to the service just days before his death. The Estate are now merely choosing to honour that deal.


I see. So they provide a collection of music predetermined before his passing?
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Reply #20 posted 05/11/18 11:55am

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PRNelson said:

Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time.

Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more.


Prince had an existing deal with Tidal and was still providing exclusive music to the service just days before his death. The Estate are now merely choosing to honour that deal.


I see. So they provide a collection of music predetermined before his passing?
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Reply #21 posted 05/11/18 11:58am

Strive

rogifan said:

So after 7 days it will be available for download on Tidal and after 14 days available on other streaming services?


From the sound of it. It will be stream only on Tidal for the first seven days, stream/available to purchase digitally on Tidal for another week and then it will have a wide release after that. So I guess other streaming services and digital stores.



With the estate handing a HITNRUN style store for physical copies. Unless they partner up with someone, I don't think it will be getting a release in traditional stores.

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Reply #22 posted 05/11/18 12:04pm

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I'm glad it will be post-1996 material cool
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Reply #23 posted 05/11/18 12:14pm

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OperatingThetan said:

A few more details here than answer many of the questions above: http://variety.com/2018/b...202807371/

that was messing up is this better?

http://variety.com/2018/b...202807371/

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Reply #24 posted 05/11/18 12:14pm

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Strive said:

rogifan said:

So after 7 days it will be available for download on Tidal and after 14 days available on other streaming services?


From the sound of it. It will be stream only on Tidal for the first seven days, stream/available to purchase digitally on Tidal for another week and then it will have a wide release after that. So I guess other streaming services and digital stores.



With the estate handing a HITNRUN style store for physical copies. Unless they partner up with someone, I don't think it will be getting a release in traditional stores.

they are saying a Global physical release...

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #25 posted 05/11/18 12:25pm

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PRNelson said:

Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time.

Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more.


I disagree. Prince trusted JayZ, and I do, too.
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Reply #26 posted 05/11/18 12:29pm

Strive

OnlyNDaUsa said:

they are saying a Global physical release...


Shipping worldwide from their online store is techincally a global release.

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Reply #27 posted 05/11/18 12:30pm

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OperatingThetan said:

PRNelson said:

Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time.

Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more.


Prince had an existing deal with Tidal and was still providing exclusive music to the service just days before his death. The Estate are now merely choosing to honour that deal.

I know but why would he have access to the vault and pick the songs? He is a rapper..what does he really know about P music and want the fans want?
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Reply #28 posted 05/11/18 12:31pm

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might be that they are going to go through the very latest material he was recording
and put those tracks together?

like, i can imagine that prince probably promised J another HitNRun volume or said
something to the effect that he was going to do another one.

so this could be an album with 'free urself' and more of the latest songs on it, like,
i don't know, frida kahlo and rumeta. or were they all for Black is The New Black?
yet, that was more of a jazzy funk fusion album to be released on bluenote wasn't
it?

but to me it seems likely that tidal wants to release the last thing prince was busy
working on and if it isn't completed they will 'compile' it from what they can find on
the mixing boards and the laptops and whatnot.

they're getting help from the estate which means they have access. but i doubt the
estate will allow tidal/j access to everything in the post 1996 vault catalogue to just
pick n mix from.

tidal are saying they want to honour their deal with prince and put out another set
conform his wishes. that would be the newest material. (for instance HitnRun 3, if
such a thing exists or was in the works etc).

picking from the 96 vault at will to compile an album is not along those lines.

but people have been saying that it was 'prince's wish' about so many things these
days. so let's wait and see.

personally, i would love to have at least one last time the excitement of hearing the
latest thing prince was coming up with, even if it was only 70% finished.


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Reply #29 posted 05/11/18 12:36pm

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PRNelson said:

Makes me sad to know so many hands have hold of his work. If anything is released I would prefer it to be compiled considerately by an individual or individuals of expert opinion and great knowledge surrounding his work. Releases which are sympathetic to eras and work he was producing during that time. Jay z choosing songs to put on an album? Man. His legacy deserves more.

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I don't trust any of these people. disbelief

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