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Reply #690 posted 07/15/18 9:32pm

udo

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leecaldon said:

It does seem a very strange decision when they describe it like that. Although I can see the thinking of putting a solo piano record out when that's what he was doing at the end.

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There's way more piano in the archives than that 1983 tape.

So why settle for that one?

Recently I got a 1984 piano thingie that does not sound like it came from cassette, has shorter renderings but all quite clear and nice.

So there must be more...

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Reply #691 posted 07/16/18 9:28am

Vannormal

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My ununderstandable question is, why only 35 minutes ?

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Since Prince recorded his very latest concerts with the utmost best equipment, it would've been more understandable to release it in a (even small/short) package of both performances;

- the young Prince's 35 minute solo/rehearsal effort

- and the Late Prince with one of his 'Piano and a Mcrophone' tour performances.

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Plus, a good extra would be this ; they can easily find some extra rehearsals he did in PP for his last tour (just even 35 minutes would be as great)

I'm pretty sure that excists.

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So now, what we get, is a book with poor info I'm sure,

sort of an EP on CD and vinyl, maybe a few black & white extra pix.

Very expensive minutes and seconds, we all already have in bad quality.

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Let's so strongly hope I'm deadwrong.

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And like so many others here say, no one actually will be interested in it.

Again, let's all hope we're deadwrong.

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Reply #692 posted 07/16/18 2:26pm

IstenSzek

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Vannormal said:

My ununderstandable question is, why only 35 minutes ?

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Since Prince recorded his very latest concerts with the utmost best equipment, it would've been more understandable to release it in a (even small/short) package of both performances;

- the young Prince's 35 minute solo/rehearsal effort

- and the Late Prince with one of his 'Piano and a Mcrophone' tour performances.

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Plus, a good extra would be this ; they can easily find some extra rehearsals he did in PP for his last tour (just even 35 minutes would be as great)

I'm pretty sure that excists.

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So now, what we get, is a book with poor info I'm sure,

sort of an EP on CD and vinyl, maybe a few black & white extra pix.

Very expensive minutes and seconds, we all already have in bad quality.

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Let's so strongly hope I'm deadwrong.

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And like so many others here say, no one actually will be interested in it.

Again, let's all hope we're deadwrong.


or perhaps the music press will write glowing reviews of it and call it a masterpiece

making those of the general public who have a slight interest to hear stuff from the
vault pick it up and go "ah ok, well if this is what's in the vault, it's not for me" and
ignore future releases.

the first thing out of the vault should have been a great studio album from his 80s
prime period. there's enough material for them to even put it together themselves
with the help of revolution band members and old engineers if there isn't anything
prince completed himself over the years from that period.

i'm still hoping that warners is putting together reissues as we speak and throwing
as many outtakes and alternate versions on them as possible since there are only
2 more years for them to cash in before the licensing goes to sony.

or maybe sony is paying them off to just not do anything. money for nothing. three
more years of waiting for us. meantime warners might release a few more shitty
rehearsals or a jam of the year concert or something like that.

at this stage i'm inclined to believe whatever is the least beneficial outcome for us
as fans because the people pulling the strings seem to be idiots from the way they
talk and the choices they make.


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Reply #693 posted 07/16/18 7:03pm

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I have zero hopes and anything good coming out anytime soon. Lucky 4 me i have more boots that i can count.
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Reply #694 posted 07/17/18 1:08pm

luvsexy4all

Graycap23 said:

I have zero hopes and anything good coming out anytime soon. Lucky 4 me i have more boots that i can count.

no confidence in jay-z compilation next year?

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Reply #695 posted 07/19/18 5:21am

love2thenines2
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It is highly rumoured that there are dozen unreleased albums fully completed in Prince's Vault....now that all the stuff has been digitilized by The Estate see last interviews here & there (even not fully catalogued yet)...i'm really surprised that not a single mention/confirmation has been reported yet by the engineers or the Estate in charge of this digitizing about 2 or 3 unreleased albums at least ?

Surprised???

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Reply #696 posted 07/19/18 5:35am

paulludvig

love2thenines2003 said:

It is highly rumoured that there are dozen unreleased albums fully completed in Prince's Vault....now that all the stuff has been digitilized by The Estate see last interviews here & there (even not fully catalogued yet)...i'm really surprised that not a single mention/confirmation has been reported yet by the engineers or the Estate in charge of this digitizing about 2 or 3 unreleased albums at least ?



Surprised???



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How is it possible to digitize that much material in such a short time? If we are talking at least 1000 songs, hours of rehearsals and concerts.
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Reply #697 posted 07/19/18 6:43am

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love2thenines2003 said:

It is highly rumoured that there are dozen unreleased albums fully completed in Prince's Vault....now that all the stuff has been digitilized by The Estate see last interviews here & there (even not fully catalogued yet)...i'm really surprised that not a single mention/confirmation has been reported yet by the engineers or the Estate in charge of this digitizing about 2 or 3 unreleased albums at least ?

Surprised???

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NDA's?

Typical WB-like behaviour: non-communicating and if they do they lie half of it: https://www.rollingstone....ms-191597/

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A simple count of unreleased abums, songs, performances, concerts, etc would help to show progress without revealing not so much.

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Reply #698 posted 07/19/18 7:57am

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luvsexy4all said:

Graycap23 said:

I have zero hopes and anything good coming out anytime soon. Lucky 4 me i have more boots that i can count.

no confidence in jay-z compilation next year?

I'll hope 4 the best........

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Reply #699 posted 07/19/18 11:49am

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Looks like the Warners promo is starting up: http://prince.org/msg/7/455674 .

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Reply #700 posted 07/19/18 11:52am

BartVanHemelen

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paulludvig said:


How is it possible to digitize that much material in such a short time? If we are talking at least 1000 songs, hours of rehearsals and concerts.

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I find that quite unbelievable as well, unless there was a large team at work. But who paid for that? Then again the RS article is somewhat backed up by stories like this: http://prince.org/msg/7/455156 .

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Reply #701 posted 07/19/18 3:39pm

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The October 2018 issue of UK monthly magazine Uncut will contain a review of P&AM83. Publication date somewhere around the end of August.

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Reply #702 posted 07/21/18 2:42am

RODSERLING

Like I SAID, Piano...1983 Will get more reviews from spécialised press than PR deluxe that was complètely underlooked. Or than 1999 deluxe would have if released instead Piano
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Reply #703 posted 07/25/18 9:10am

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rdhull said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Ho-ly crap. So these morons who are running the show knew that this recording "was circulating" and actively went searching for it! https://www.rollingstone....gn-698529/

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I despair for such idiocy.

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Thousands of unreleased songs? Naaah, let's just release a sub-standard cassette recording.

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Two frikking years and that's the best they could come up with: something that has been available on bootleg for decades.

This amateur kind of shit is what I’ve worried about we we will be dealing with forever.

I agree RdHull.... these are amateurs... eek sad

so frightening how they are running the "post" career - those upcoming Prince releases...

Frightening. sad sad sad

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Reply #704 posted 07/26/18 12:24am

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More i think about it & more i'm disapointed by a such release....so much other Album unreleased configurations....demos & outtakes from the 80's in the Vault far better than this useless release....i'm not excited by the next ones because with this new one ...The Estate/WB show their ambitions not in a high level !

damned

[Edited 7/26/18 0:25am]

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Reply #705 posted 07/26/18 6:31pm

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love2thenines2003 said:

More i think about it & more i'm disapointed by a such release....so much other Album unreleased configurations....demos & outtakes from the 80's in the Vault far better than this useless release....i'm not excited by the next ones because with this new one ...The Estate/WB show their ambitions not in a high level !

damned

[Edited 7/26/18 0:25am]

There's hope that maybe this release is because things still have not been sorted out to an appropriate degree by the estate yet. Im sure in the future we will get something of higher stature etc. I would imagine. TBH, Eavesdropping boot has always been held in high regard amongst die-hards.

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Reply #706 posted 07/27/18 12:45am

JorisE73

rdhull said:

love2thenines2003 said:

More i think about it & more i'm disapointed by a such release....so much other Album unreleased configurations....demos & outtakes from the 80's in the Vault far better than this useless release....i'm not excited by the next ones because with this new one ...The Estate/WB show their ambitions not in a high level !

damned

[Edited 7/26/18 0:25am]

There's hope that maybe this release is because things still have not been sorted out to an appropriate degree by the estate yet. Im sure in the future we will get something of higher stature etc. I would imagine. TBH, Eavesdropping boot has always been held in high regard amongst die-hards.


I think it's just the start of a huge campaign of milking the Purple Rain Era for all it's worth as cheaply as possible.

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Reply #707 posted 07/27/18 3:27am

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JorisE73 said:

I think it's just the start of a huge campaign of milking the Purple Rain Era for all it's worth as cheaply as possible.

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That would be even worse...

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Reply #708 posted 07/27/18 4:32am

JorisE73

udo said:

JorisE73 said:

I think it's just the start of a huge campaign of milking the Purple Rain Era for all it's worth as cheaply as possible.

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That would be even worse...


I agree, but it seems WB is willing to milk it for all it is worth and honestly the general public mostly only know Prince for that era.

I don't think the estate is interested in 'specialty only for Prince fans' releases. They want to make as much money as possible so they have to focus and cater to the billions of general public people who have more money to spend than the one million Prince fans.

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Reply #709 posted 07/27/18 6:31am

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JorisE73 said:

I agree, but it seems WB is willing to milk it for all it is worth and honestly the general public mostly only know Prince for that era.

I don't think the estate is interested in 'specialty only for Prince fans' releases. They want to make as much money as possible so they have to focus and cater to the billions of general public people who have more money to spend than the one million Prince fans.

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Then what to think of another commercially successfull period like D&P?

Would they milk it?

What is there to milk with?

Etc...

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Reply #710 posted 07/31/18 7:48am

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Mary Don't You Weep is badass. The singing is some of his best. What is wrong with this lot?

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Reply #711 posted 07/31/18 8:26am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Mary Don't You Weep is badass. The singing is some of his best. What is wrong with this lot?

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When there's supposedly loads and loads of tapes in the Vault, then why would this be first?

Why can't they simply do a proper remaster when they need to buy some time?

There is no reason for this.

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Reply #712 posted 08/01/18 11:38am

luvsexy4all

why not milk the purple rain thing as much as possible? the 100 unreleased songs ...the uncut movie

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Reply #713 posted 08/01/18 9:59pm

udo

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luvsexy4all said:

why not milk the purple rain thing as much as possible? the 100 unreleased songs ...the uncut movie

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Bring it on!

But they won't as they are clueless.

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There is no clever plan to to maximise profits and maximise customer satisfaction.

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Reply #714 posted 08/03/18 9:34am

luvsexy4all

udo said:

luvsexy4all said:

why not milk the purple rain thing as much as possible? the 100 unreleased songs ...the uncut movie

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Bring it on!

But they won't as they are clueless.

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There is no clever plan to to maximise profits and maximise customer satisfaction.

id like to hear THEIR logic behind their moves

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Reply #715 posted 08/04/18 9:53pm

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luvsexy4all said:

udo said:

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Bring it on!

But they won't as they are clueless.

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There is no clever plan to to maximise profits and maximise customer satisfaction.

id like to hear THEIR logic behind their moves

"we should show everyone what it sounded like in the beginning, what 2 years of waiting for a decent release and spending 21-40$ gets them. What do you mean hardcore fans? I bet not a 100 people in the world have heard this rehearsal! Hey, Troy, how's spotify?...". I would've rather taken the Purple Rain Deluxe CD but scanned at HQ from the master tapes + like 3-5 new songs, also scanned from the master tapes, not cassettes like all of the studio outtakes have been so far (except NC2U)...

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