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Reply #90 posted 08/05/18 6:22am

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Militant said:



scififilmnerd said:


I just watched Uncovering Prince With Anna Fantastic and she says she has a cassette copy of the uncirculating I Believe I Love U that was recorded for Graffiti Bridge in 1987 and 1988. You forgot to ask H.M. Buff if he kept copies of the songs. Maybe he's got the full length She Gave Her Angels and The Divine? shocked






Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included.



I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal.



I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself.

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".





Does Anna Waiting differ musically from Vicky Waiting?
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Reply #91 posted 08/05/18 1:51pm

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paulludvig said:

Militant said:



Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included.


I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal.

I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself.

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".



Does Anna Waiting differ musically from Vicky Waiting?

There's some additional guitar licks and synth parts. There's a circulating demo of "Vicki Waiting" which resembles "Anna Waiting" musically. Most of the differences though are lyrical and arrangement wise - for example, there's an additional high vocal harmony on the chorus that isn't on "Vicki".

Second verse starts with "All is well in Lonely Town" - Lonely being a play on "London".

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Reply #92 posted 08/05/18 2:37pm

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I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?
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Reply #93 posted 08/05/18 3:55pm

paulludvig

Militant said:



paulludvig said:


Militant said:





Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included.



I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal.



I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself.

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".





Does Anna Waiting differ musically from Vicky Waiting?


There's some additional guitar licks and synth parts. There's a circulating demo of "Vicki Waiting" which resembles "Anna Waiting" musically. Most of the differences though are lyrical and arrangement wise - for example, there's an additional high vocal harmony on the chorus that isn't on "Vicki".

Second verse starts with "All is well in Lonely Town" - Lonely being a play on "London".







Cool! Thanks.
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Reply #94 posted 08/06/18 9:50am

madhouseman

love2thenines2003 said:

I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?

I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #95 posted 08/06/18 10:25am

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madhouseman said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?

I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Reply #96 posted 08/07/18 9:25am

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Great interview. Congrats to both of you at the Violet Realty, Militant.


Great job keeping us informed with new and insightful information.


Don't bother feeding the trolls. They're beneath you, (and us) and not worth a response. In truth, I think we all would be better served if you just deleted their posts. They're antagonistic and not productive in the least.

I second that.

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Reply #97 posted 08/07/18 12:42pm

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TheBoneRanger said:



madhouseman said:




love2thenines2003 said:


I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?


I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!



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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.



https://peachandblack.podbean.com/


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Oh for a box set of 20TEN deluxe and the Welcome 2 America album, along with any other oddities from the era. Would be a fairly good choice since 20TEN was never officially released outside Europe.
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Reply #98 posted 08/07/18 1:25pm

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Totally unrelated to H.M. Buff, but speaking of who has copies of what, I just watched Uncovering Prince With Elisa Fiorillo. She says she has a cassette copy of a previously unknown outtake I Think U Wanna Dance from her I Am album. That's interesting. Also, she mentions Dolphin, Strays Of The World and Dark as examples of Prince's great songwriting ability - I like that! biggrin

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Reply #99 posted 08/07/18 3:00pm

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Blue Light is just alright? Unforgivable! razz. Thanks, I thought the interview at just under an hour and twenty minutes was a bit short. Should have been at least five days longer. Thanks to Hans, as well. Loved hearing about Larry Graham. Dude gets a bad rap from certain parts, nice to hear something positive from someone who actually met the man.

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Reply #100 posted 08/07/18 4:17pm

luvsexy4all

OperatingThetan said:

TheBoneRanger said:

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Oh for a box set of 20TEN deluxe and the Welcome 2 America album, along with any other oddities from the era. Would be a fairly good choice since 20TEN was never officially released outside Europe.

we'll all be dead before they delve into that time period

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Reply #101 posted 08/07/18 4:53pm

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scififilmnerd said:

Totally unrelated to H.M. Buff, but speaking of who has copies of what, I just watched Uncovering Prince With Elisa Fiorillo. She says she has a cassette copy of a previously unknown outtake I Think U Wanna Dance from her I Am album. That's interesting. Also, she mentions Dolphin, Strays Of The World and Dark as examples of Prince's great songwriting ability - I like that! biggrin

i always loved strays, i felt a kinship with that notion which prince always embodied anyway.

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Reply #102 posted 08/07/18 11:45pm

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luvsexy4all said:

OperatingThetan said:

TheBoneRanger said: Oh for a box set of 20TEN deluxe and the Welcome 2 America album, along with any other oddities from the era. Would be a fairly good choice since 20TEN was never officially released outside Europe.

we'll all be dead before they delve into that time period

That would be a shame.

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Reply #103 posted 08/08/18 1:49am

madhouseman

TheBoneRanger said:

madhouseman said:

I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Thank you. Love Peach & Black! I'll check it out.

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #104 posted 08/08/18 11:30am

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madhouseman said:

TheBoneRanger said:

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Thank you. Love Peach & Black! I'll check it out.

You're welcome. I just listened to the most recent show (non album tracks VOL 2) and when they reviewed "Rich Friends," which was supposed to be on 20TEN deluxe, they said the meeting with Prince happened in 2010. So that particular show after the meet probably came out in 2010 or early 2011.

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I'm looking forward to more in your "Studio Sessions" series. You're doing important work! Perhaps you and Hans can get together if/when you're able to do the 1996-2000 era.

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Reply #105 posted 08/09/18 6:11pm

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If anyone's interested, our new episode is up with Tamar smile

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Reply #106 posted 08/12/18 7:03pm

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If anyone's interested, our new episode is up with Tamar smile

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Cool, thanks! I'll have to check out some more of your interviews. Great work!

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Reply #107 posted 08/13/18 3:17am

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Ditto on the "Release It" beat sample. That's the one I would most want, too.

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Isn't that sample just the opening bars of Squib Cakes by Tower of Power?

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Reply #108 posted 08/13/18 4:49am

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fishwillbite said:

TheBoneRanger said:

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Ditto on the "Release It" beat sample. That's the one I would most want, too.

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Isn't that sample just the opening bars of Squib Cakes by Tower of Power?

Is it? I'll be damned.

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Reply #109 posted 08/13/18 9:26am

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Great work on those interviews - Cheers ! Love hearing things from the people who knew him. So interesting !

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Reply #110 posted 08/16/18 5:33am

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Hans Martin Buff says : "There's two albums for every one that was released..."

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THAT'S ABOUT WHAT ? 50/70 OR SO UNRELEASED ALBUMS ???

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Reply #111 posted 08/16/18 4:59pm

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I LOVE Han's quirky sense of humor. I can imagine him and Prince had a LOT of laughs together.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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