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Thread started 08/13/18 4:19am

PurpleBlackmon

Piano & A Microphone Deluxe Edition (One LP And A Disc) Why?

What is the estate doing and who's making decisions over there? It's bad enough that they are releasing this at all, knowing that this has been in circulation for years, but then they come up with this, for a deluxe edition? Just look at this stupid track listing. This has got to be the most pointless deluxe release in history
Disc: 1
1. Medley: 17 Days / Purple Rain / A Case Of You / Mary Don't You Weep / Strange Relationship / Interna
Disc: 2
1. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Disc: 3
1. 17 Days (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Purple Rain (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
3. A Case Of You (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
4. Mary Don't You Weep (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
5. Strange Relationship (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
6. International Lover (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
7. Wednesday (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
8. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
9. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Product details
Vinyl (September 21, 2018)
Deluxe Edition edition
Number of Discs: 2
Label: Warner Bros.
ASIN: B07DKGDX9P

https://www.amazon.com/Pi...B07DKGDX9P

[Edited 8/13/18 4:21am]

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Reply #1 posted 08/13/18 4:57am

OperatingTheta
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They've just seperated the tracks and called it a 'deluxe edition'?

Seriously lame.
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Reply #2 posted 08/13/18 5:22am

donnyenglish

He has finished albums that are great but they give us a demo cassette that they found? I want it, but there is so much more. They need a fan advisory board because the decisions they make are terrible.
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Reply #3 posted 08/13/18 5:30am

TheFman

is that for real?? eek

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Reply #4 posted 08/13/18 5:37am

TheEnglishGent

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OperatingThetan said:

They've just seperated the tracks and called it a 'deluxe edition'? Seriously lame.

The deluxe version is the tracks on viny and CD, plus some other stuff.


From the link:


"The Deluxe CD+LP format will include a 12" booklet featuring brand new liner notes written by Prince's then engineer Don Batts, as well as candid shots of Prince including never before seen images."


RIP sad
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Reply #5 posted 08/13/18 5:43am

PurpleBlackmon

TheEnglishGent said:

OperatingThetan said:

They've just seperated the tracks and called it a 'deluxe edition'? Seriously lame.

The deluxe version is the tracks on viny and CD, plus some other stuff.


From the link:


"The Deluxe CD+LP format will include a 12" booklet featuring brand new liner notes written by Prince's then engineer Don Batts, as well as candid shots of Prince including never before seen images."


Is that supposed to make it better?

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Reply #6 posted 08/13/18 6:12am

hyperpessimist

I won't say P+M83 would be my first choice for a release, but I'm OK with it... here's an alternative viewpoint - bear with me, I'm just gathering some thoughts as I type, allright, not stating any "truth" here...


They may be relying on archival material that is ready to go in order to buy time to scan the "deeper" archives properly. Meanwhile, there is clearly a market these days for "DeLuxe editions" with no bonus materials. Lots of artists are re-releasing their classics with new packaging, new photos, new liner notes... It's about fetishizing the artists' narratives, especially the ones that are gone... And people do buy it, the ones who want to re-vitalize their connection with the music they've known for decades...

Speaking of which, in more general terms... I think something shifts radically in one's appreciation of an artist once s/he passes away... knowing the body of work will no longer evolve turns our focus into the legacy... and in the absence of development, we scrape the barrell as we can... archives, karaoke, former associates, bios, dolls, etc etc.... --- nothing wrong with these, they have their role; but maybe I just feel that we're all still craving for that time when he would come out of nowhere with a brand new vision, and are somehow hoping the vault will give us that kind of "fix"... I don't think it ever will, whatever ends up being released will always report to a legacy, a conspicuous absence...

Anyway, just some thoughts.

Peace

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Reply #7 posted 08/13/18 6:55am

djThunderfunk

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PurpleBlackmon said:

What is the estate doing and who's making decisions over there? It's bad enough that they are releasing this at all, knowing that this has been in circulation for years, but then they come up with this, for a deluxe edition? Just look at this stupid track listing. This has got to be the most pointless deluxe release in history
Disc: 1
1. Medley: 17 Days / Purple Rain / A Case Of You / Mary Don't You Weep / Strange Relationship / Interna
Disc: 2
1. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Disc: 3
1. 17 Days (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Purple Rain (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
3. A Case Of You (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
4. Mary Don't You Weep (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
5. Strange Relationship (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
6. International Lover (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
7. Wednesday (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
8. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
9. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Product details
Vinyl (September 21, 2018)
Deluxe Edition edition
Number of Discs: 2
Label: Warner Bros.
ASIN: B07DKGDX9P

https://www.amazon.com/Pi...B07DKGDX9P

[Edited 8/13/18 4:21am]


Pretty sure that what is listed here as "Disc 1 & 2" are Side A & B of the vinyl, while the one listed as "Disc 3" is the CD. No?

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #8 posted 08/13/18 6:56am

TheEnglishGent

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PurpleBlackmon said:

TheEnglishGent said:

The deluxe version is the tracks on viny and CD, plus some other stuff.


From the link:


"The Deluxe CD+LP format will include a 12" booklet featuring brand new liner notes written by Prince's then engineer Don Batts, as well as candid shots of Prince including never before seen images."


Is that supposed to make it better?

[Edited 8/13/18 5:45am]

Better than something which is just the tracks separated, yes. You can buy CD on its own or deluxe with CD, vinyl and booklet. I don't see the problem. Me, I'll just get the CD as I have no use for vinyl and not too fussed about the book.

Now, if the problem is the release itself, then that's a different talking point. It's not what I would have asked for but it's what we're getting.

RIP sad
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Reply #9 posted 08/13/18 8:16am

mikeyaddict

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Strange to call it Deluxe though when it isn’t, regardless of this being the release (don’t get me started on that!).
Comin str8 outta Preston...
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Reply #10 posted 08/13/18 8:36am

TwiliteKid

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djThunderfunk said:

PurpleBlackmon said:

What is the estate doing and who's making decisions over there? It's bad enough that they are releasing this at all, knowing that this has been in circulation for years, but then they come up with this, for a deluxe edition? Just look at this stupid track listing. This has got to be the most pointless deluxe release in history
Disc: 1
1. Medley: 17 Days / Purple Rain / A Case Of You / Mary Don't You Weep / Strange Relationship / Interna
Disc: 2
1. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Disc: 3
1. 17 Days (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Purple Rain (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
3. A Case Of You (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
4. Mary Don't You Weep (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
5. Strange Relationship (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
6. International Lover (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
7. Wednesday (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
8. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
9. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Product details
Vinyl (September 21, 2018)
Deluxe Edition edition
Number of Discs: 2
Label: Warner Bros.
ASIN: B07DKGDX9P

https://www.amazon.com/Pi...B07DKGDX9P

[Edited 8/13/18 4:21am]


Pretty sure that what is listed here as "Disc 1 & 2" are Side A & B of the vinyl, while the one listed as "Disc 3" is the CD. No?

That is correct.

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Reply #11 posted 08/13/18 8:57am

TheEnglishGent

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mikeyaddict said:

Strange to call it Deluxe though when it isn’t, regardless of this being the release (don’t get me started on that!).


What makes something a deluxe release? Maybe some extra tracks? There is more here than the standard single CD package though, so that seems enough to call it deluxe to me. You only get the book with the deluxe version.

Value for money though? That's a different argument.

RIP sad
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Reply #12 posted 08/13/18 10:30am

donnyenglish

This is a release for hardcore fans. But, if they want to do that, then give us a 7CD or DVD set of the 2002 Celebration or many other releases that hard core fans would have appreciated much more than this. The general public will have almost no interest in this and this is not likely to generate any new interest. I would hate to think that WB is purposefully devaluing the value of the vault in order to achieve leverage in the future, but it sure seems like it.

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Reply #13 posted 08/13/18 4:32pm

Lovejunky

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PurpleBlackmon said:

What is the estate doing and who's making decisions over there? It's bad enough that they are releasing this at all, knowing that this has been in circulation for years, but then they come up with this, for a deluxe edition? Just look at this stupid track listing. This has got to be the most pointless deluxe release in history
Disc: 1
1. Medley: 17 Days / Purple Rain / A Case Of You / Mary Don't You Weep / Strange Relationship / Interna
Disc: 2
1. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Disc: 3
1. 17 Days (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Purple Rain (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
3. A Case Of You (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
4. Mary Don't You Weep (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
5. Strange Relationship (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
6. International Lover (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
7. Wednesday (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
8. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
9. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Product details
Vinyl (September 21, 2018)
Deluxe Edition edition
Number of Discs: 2
Label: Warner Bros.
ASIN: B07DKGDX9P

https://www.amazon.com/Pi...B07DKGDX9P

[Edited 8/13/18 4:21am]

I disagree...

They are pitching this to capture NEW FANS..

The ones who dont realise the strength of his Piano Playing and songwriting

The Ones who see him only as a Flamboyant POP ICON

This release is one I could easily gift to my mother or even my grandson who is learning Piano.

It a stripped back offering curated to display the beauty of his voice and the way

he plays Piano perhaps not technically perfect..but with all the FEELS

of a person who understands Music .

Its not about the established Fans...

lets face it..in the Grand scheme of things we are here forever...

The estate is Looking to Capture a new Audience and get them hip to the diversity of his sounds..

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
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Reply #14 posted 08/13/18 5:02pm

rnb

I would agree with everyone sentiments surrounding the way this M&P 83 project is being released. Nevertheless, I will still purchase this release for my collection (let the fleecing of the Prince fans begin). With that being said, I am looking forward to the Tidal release on 9/28. I am sure they will be releasing tracks the world never heard of before (at least I hope that is the case).
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Reply #15 posted 08/13/18 5:33pm

jjam

This release is total bollocks.

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Reply #16 posted 08/13/18 5:47pm

gandorb

Lovejunky said:

PurpleBlackmon said:

What is the estate doing and who's making decisions over there? It's bad enough that they are releasing this at all, knowing that this has been in circulation for years, but then they come up with this, for a deluxe edition? Just look at this stupid track listing. This has got to be the most pointless deluxe release in history
Disc: 1
1. Medley: 17 Days / Purple Rain / A Case Of You / Mary Don't You Weep / Strange Relationship / Interna
Disc: 2
1. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Disc: 3
1. 17 Days (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Purple Rain (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
3. A Case Of You (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
4. Mary Don't You Weep (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
5. Strange Relationship (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
6. International Lover (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
7. Wednesday (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
8. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
9. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Product details
Vinyl (September 21, 2018)
Deluxe Edition edition
Number of Discs: 2
Label: Warner Bros.
ASIN: B07DKGDX9P

https://www.amazon.com/Pi...B07DKGDX9P

[Edited 8/13/18 4:21am]

I disagree...

They are pitching this to capture NEW FANS..

The ones who dont realise the strength of his Piano Playing and songwriting

The Ones who see him only as a Flamboyant POP ICON

This release is one I could easily gift to my mother or even my grandson who is learning Piano.

It a stripped back offering curated to display the beauty of his voice and the way

he plays Piano perhaps not technically perfect..but with all the FEELS

of a person who understands Music .

Its not about the established Fans...

lets face it..in the Grand scheme of things we are here forever...

The estate is Looking to Capture a new Audience and get them hip to the diversity of his sounds..

I would think a much better way to capture casual or new friends with a piano and mic setup is to release the CD/VIdeo of the 2016 P & M Atlanta concert. This is a great concert though admittedly a bittersweet one. I imagine they eventually plan to relase this if they have a lick a sense, so why release an old obscure P & M recording that might cause confusion among the non-orgers when the concert one is released?

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Reply #17 posted 08/13/18 6:02pm

Lovejunky

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gandorb said:

Lovejunky said:

I disagree...

They are pitching this to capture NEW FANS..

The ones who dont realise the strength of his Piano Playing and songwriting

The Ones who see him only as a Flamboyant POP ICON

This release is one I could easily gift to my mother or even my grandson who is learning Piano.

It a stripped back offering curated to display the beauty of his voice and the way

he plays Piano perhaps not technically perfect..but with all the FEELS

of a person who understands Music .

Its not about the established Fans...

lets face it..in the Grand scheme of things we are here forever...

The estate is Looking to Capture a new Audience and get them hip to the diversity of his sounds..

I would think a much better way to capture casual or new friends with a piano and mic setup is to release the CD/VIdeo of the 2016 P & M Atlanta concert. This is a great concert though admittedly a bittersweet one. I imagine they eventually plan to relase this if they have a lick a sense, so why release an old obscure P & M recording that might cause confusion among the non-orgers when the concert one is released?

trying to look through the eyes of the uninitiated ..

P&M as fantastic as it is, contains snippets of songs, many of which are stipped SO far back thats its likely a NEW Fan would have no idea of how genius this move was nor would the melancholy in his voice be appreciated ..

My opinion ..dont mind who disagrees

In any case its not as if WE have ANY CHoice...

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
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Reply #18 posted 08/14/18 8:02am

luvsexy4all

Lovejunky said:

PurpleBlackmon said:

What is the estate doing and who's making decisions over there? It's bad enough that they are releasing this at all, knowing that this has been in circulation for years, but then they come up with this, for a deluxe edition? Just look at this stupid track listing. This has got to be the most pointless deluxe release in history
Disc: 1
1. Medley: 17 Days / Purple Rain / A Case Of You / Mary Don't You Weep / Strange Relationship / Interna
Disc: 2
1. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Disc: 3
1. 17 Days (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
2. Purple Rain (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
3. A Case Of You (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
4. Mary Don't You Weep (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
5. Strange Relationship (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
6. International Lover (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
7. Wednesday (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
8. Cold Coffee & Cocaine (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
9. Why The Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone 1983 Version)
Product details
Vinyl (September 21, 2018)
Deluxe Edition edition
Number of Discs: 2
Label: Warner Bros.
ASIN: B07DKGDX9P

https://www.amazon.com/Pi...B07DKGDX9P

[Edited 8/13/18 4:21am]

I disagree...

They are pitching this to capture NEW FANS..

The ones who dont realise the strength of his Piano Playing and songwriting

The Ones who see him only as a Flamboyant POP ICON

This release is one I could easily gift to my mother or even my grandson who is learning Piano.

It a stripped back offering curated to display the beauty of his voice and the way

he plays Piano perhaps not technically perfect..but with all the FEELS

of a person who understands Music .

Its not about the established Fans...

lets face it..in the Grand scheme of things we are here forever...

The estate is Looking to Capture a new Audience and get them hip to the diversity of his sounds..

but how would this gather NEW fans?? i would imagine an aftershow of unusual songs seems more interesting

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Reply #19 posted 08/14/18 8:50am

Genesia

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Are any of these also going to include a digital download? If not, they're worthless. I mean...I still play vinyl. But without a digital download, I can't get it into my computer without going to a lot of trouble to rip it.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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djThunderfunk

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Genesia said:

Are any of these also going to include a digital download? If not, they're worthless. I mean...I still play vinyl. But without a digital download, I can't get it into my computer without going to a lot of trouble to rip it.


There's always the tried and true: Buy the vinyl, pirate the digital.
I see no moral problem with such a scenario.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #21 posted 08/14/18 10:53am

Genesia

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djThunderfunk said:

Genesia said:

Are any of these also going to include a digital download? If not, they're worthless. I mean...I still play vinyl. But without a digital download, I can't get it into my computer without going to a lot of trouble to rip it.


There's always the tried and true: Buy the vinyl, pirate the digital.
I see no moral problem with such a scenario.


I know. It's just another hoop to jump through.

But even in death, that's Prince - the King of Hoops.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #22 posted 08/14/18 10:59am

djThunderfunk

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Genesia said:

djThunderfunk said:


There's always the tried and true: Buy the vinyl, pirate the digital.
I see no moral problem with such a scenario.


I know. It's just another hoop to jump through.

But even in death, that's Prince - the King of Hoops.


wink

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #23 posted 08/14/18 1:10pm

TheEnglishGent

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Genesia said:

Are any of these also going to include a digital download? If not, they're worthless. I mean...I still play vinyl. But without a digital download, I can't get it into my computer without going to a lot of trouble to rip it.


Can you buy the vinyl without the CD? Much easier to rip the CD than the vinyl.

RIP sad
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Reply #24 posted 08/14/18 4:20pm

MIRvmn

I will buy it but not the deluxe edition smile
We are living in Orwell's 1984
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Reply #25 posted 08/15/18 7:24am

Genesia

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TheEnglishGent said:

Genesia said:

Are any of these also going to include a digital download? If not, they're worthless. I mean...I still play vinyl. But without a digital download, I can't get it into my computer without going to a lot of trouble to rip it.


Can you buy the vinyl without the CD? Much easier to rip the CD than the vinyl.


Actually, if you don't have a computer with a disc drive (and who does, anymore?), a CD is anything but easy to rip.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #26 posted 08/15/18 10:07am

djThunderfunk

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Genesia said:

TheEnglishGent said:


Can you buy the vinyl without the CD? Much easier to rip the CD than the vinyl.


Actually, if you don't have a computer with a disc drive (and who does, anymore?), a CD is anything but easy to rip.


A computer without a drive to rip my CDs is useless to me.

The cool thing is, external drives are cheap. If you have any CDs you haven't ripped yet, it's a worthy investment.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #27 posted 08/17/18 10:54am

onlyforaminute

Maybe that's what all the switching around that's going on with the streaming sites is about, making way for this.

"You want to know your biggest fault? You don’t keep true accounts: you put a high value on what you’ve given, a low value on what you’ve received."

- Seneca, On Anger 3.31.3
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Reply #28 posted 09/20/18 2:53pm

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So, anybody get their pre-order yet?

I didn't order it, preferring to instead support my local independent wrecka stow tomorrow by buying it in person on 0-day as I have with every release sold in stores starting with Purple Rain.

As I look at the prices and pictures online, I see my options in store are:

the CD alone, they don't have the price up for this one yet

the LP alone, they list this one as $21.98

the combo, they have it for $38.98

Looking at the pictures, it looks like the combo does not have a separate digipack for the CD, or cover for the LP, I'm guessing they might be housed in the booklet?

To be honest, I'm thinking I would rather have a separate cases for the CD & LP for filing on my shelves than a "photo book" that I don't expect to be impressed by. It'll probably be cheaper to buy them separately without the book too.

If anybody has it yet, please post some photos of how the discs are housed in the booklet.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #29 posted 09/20/18 3:18pm

SanDiegoFunkDa
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I'm all for the estate generating revenue for the heirs but no way I'm buying this. I'll wait until SOTT Deluxe is released

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