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Reply #150 posted 11/06/18 8:23am

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jdcxc said:

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She also destroyed A Wrinkle in Time. I am not hopeful.

“Selma” was incredible. I just hope she has real music people working with her. And Prince experts who aren’t all about propping themselves up. Basically, a real anaylsis, treatment and breakdown of his genius. We all have read amazing pieces and crap.

minimal talk, especially from people outside of the actual music/camp.

A timeline piece of this career with video/concert/rehearsal clips, mixing stuff within the time periods and album era releases, including the proteges(I mostly care about the 80s proteges) a lot of the latter stuff became too much about women.

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Reply #151 posted 11/06/18 9:38am

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jdcxc said:


Genesia said:



She also destroyed A Wrinkle in Time. I am not hopeful.



“Selma” was incredible. I just hope she has real music people working with her. And Prince experts who aren’t all about propping themselves up. Basically, a real anaylsis, treatment and breakdown of his genius. We all have read amazing pieces and crap.


minimal talk, especially from people outside of the actual music/camp.


A timeline piece of this career with video/concert/rehearsal clips, mixing stuff within the time periods and album era releases, including the proteges(I mostly care about the 80s proteges) a lot of the latter stuff became too much about women.



I think there should be minimal talk even from people inside the camp, and only archival footage to avoid revisionist history.
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Reply #152 posted 11/06/18 9:52am

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I think any Prince bio would have to be about a specefic time or event. You cannot cover the entire Prince life, work, and impact in one film. And most bios do just that, focus on one spect while sprinkling in a back story. A lot of rock artist died early and had one or two defining songs or achievements. (The exemptions would be The Stones, The Beatles and Elton) And the music with those guys were collaborative. Band efforts. Even Elton is a collaboration. Prince produced so much work. He was known to be a workaholic and produced work and performances up the wazooo. Too much to cover in any single movie.



The article says it'll be a multi-part documentary. Sounds more promising the more I actually read on what she's doing. Live footage, interviews and such.

"You want to know your biggest fault? You don’t keep true accounts: you put a high value on what you’ve given, a low value on what you’ve received."

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Reply #153 posted 11/06/18 9:54am

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paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

minimal talk, especially from people outside of the actual music/camp.

A timeline piece of this career with video/concert/rehearsal clips, mixing stuff within the time periods and album era releases, including the proteges(I mostly care about the 80s proteges) a lot of the latter stuff became too much about women.

I think there should be minimal talk even from people inside the camp, and only archival footage to avoid revisionist history.

I don't think a documentary would have a lot of talk anyway. When they are posting a quote from someone it usually isn't long.

I mean Ava herself could push a pro-female revisionist view herself

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Reply #154 posted 11/06/18 10:06am

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And please Ava don’t do too much of the Religious stuff- only where it is pertinent to the music (Rainbow Children JW evolution, early gospel influences, etc.)

A few more tips for fun-

*Real breakdown of Minneapolis Sound, end of big band R&B era
*P’s unique and groundbreaking approach to production, band leadership, songwriting
*Miles Davis/Joni inspiration, collaboration, discussions
*Heavy emphasis on archived LIVE aftershow footage and his unique approaches to stagecraft, experimentation, impulsiveness
*Heavy emphasis on Musical Period 85-87 (Pure Genius)

Don’t shy away from edgy, hypersexual, competitive and dark sides...PRINCE is not Disney!
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Reply #155 posted 11/07/18 2:46am

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This has the BBC Omnibus doco to live up to. Which has set the bar.

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Omnibus was a gold standard documentary show. And to think that their Prince doc only featured so much archive material because they'd traveled to Minneapolis because they were to interview Prince (their usual MO when portraying an artist) and of course he'd changed his mind when they arrived, so in exchange they got access to a bunch of vault footage (e.g. from Magnoli's unfinished(?) and unreleased documentary that he was making during the Lovesexy era).

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I didn't know about the unreleased Lovesexy era documentary. Would be fascinating to see more of that footage. Starting with the Camden 88 aftershow smile That era is one of my favourites personally. Won't hold my breath though..

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Reply #156 posted 11/07/18 11:22am

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milesb said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Omnibus was a gold standard documentary show. And to think that their Prince doc only featured so much archive material because they'd traveled to Minneapolis because they were to interview Prince (their usual MO when portraying an artist) and of course he'd changed his mind when they arrived, so in exchange they got access to a bunch of vault footage (e.g. from Magnoli's unfinished(?) and unreleased documentary that he was making during the Lovesexy era).

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I didn't know about the unreleased Lovesexy era documentary. Would be fascinating to see more of that footage. Starting with the Camden 88 aftershow smile That era is one of my favourites personally. Won't hold my breath though..

camden 88 in full has been rleased to some ...the rest are waiting

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Reply #157 posted 11/08/18 1:30am

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milesb said:

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I didn't know about the unreleased Lovesexy era documentary. Would be fascinating to see more of that footage. Starting with the Camden 88 aftershow smile That era is one of my favourites personally. Won't hold my breath though..

camden 88 in full has been rleased to some ...the rest are waiting

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I don't understand why the chosen few wouldn't release this to the wider few. The wider few being the rest of us hardcore fans. Aren't we all in this together? We're all practically kin! I'd release it if I had it. What's the point of keeping his genius to yourself?

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Reply #158 posted 11/08/18 2:58am

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milesb said:

luvsexy4all said:

camden 88 in full has been rleased to some ...the rest are waiting

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I don't understand why the chosen few wouldn't release this to the wider few. The wider few being the rest of us hardcore fans. Aren't we all in this together? We're all practically kin! I'd release it if I had it. What's the point of keeping his genius to yourself?

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WHY ? > 2 answers

MONEY & Pride

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Reply #159 posted 11/09/18 3:45am

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milesb said:

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I don't understand why the chosen few wouldn't release this to the wider few. The wider few being the rest of us hardcore fans. Aren't we all in this together? We're all practically kin! I'd release it if I had it. What's the point of keeping his genius to yourself?

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WHY ? > 2 answers

MONEY & Pride

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$ and ego

love or $?

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Reply #160 posted 11/21/18 5:00am

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[color=blue]She will have plenty of great footage from many great filmmakers to draw on, but I doubt Prince did one revealing interview, even in the vault. Reflection on what he had done or how he felt was really not a big part of his nature.
As a consequence,I reckon that focusing on just performance footage would be the way to go. If some of the people he was genuinely intimate with were to talk, I would listen, but as far as what “famous person x” thinks of Prince, or his career or whatever, I really don’t care.
I would love it to be a celebration of his life, but so often when people die like that all of the stories around them are framed around their untimely death. I hope that it can be more about the life without glossing over the end.[\color]
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Reply #161 posted 11/23/18 11:00am

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So...is there a projected date on when this is coming out? I mean, winter can be so long, and I fear that after I finish watching the 2nd season of Ozark there will be nothing left on Netflix.

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Reply #162 posted 11/26/18 2:39pm

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YES LAWD!

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Reply #163 posted 11/28/18 12:28am

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love2thenines2003 said:

milesb said:

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I don't understand why the chosen few wouldn't release this to the wider few. The wider few being the rest of us hardcore fans. Aren't we all in this together? We're all practically kin! I'd release it if I had it. What's the point of keeping his genius to yourself?

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WHY ? > 2 answers

MONEY & Pride

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After having some experience with traders and so called archivers your reasons given are pretty naive.

Most people I know who don't let theere stuff out is because they keep it so they can trade it for other uncirculating stuff or because of promisses made, it's not pride but respecting peoples wishes.
As I see it only bootleggers hoard stuff for money, but they are in a lower class compared to traders.

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Reply #164 posted 11/28/18 1:34am

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JorisE73 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

WHY ? > 2 answers

MONEY & Pride

cool



After having some experience with traders and so called archivers your reasons given are pretty naive.

Most people I know who don't let theere stuff out is because they keep it so they can trade it for other uncirculating stuff or because of promisses made, it's not pride but respecting peoples wishes.
As I see it only bootleggers hoard stuff for money, but they are in a lower class compared to traders.

Money & Pride....no other reasons....this material is owned by Prince only ....but when the stuff is out ...the stuff has to be shared 4 the pleasure of all in a way or other...so i don't care what is in the mind of this so called -Elite ......Money & Pride in the end...always the same good story !

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Reply #165 posted 11/28/18 3:19am

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love2thenines2003 said:

JorisE73 said:



After having some experience with traders and so called archivers your reasons given are pretty naive.

Most people I know who don't let theere stuff out is because they keep it so they can trade it for other uncirculating stuff or because of promisses made, it's not pride but respecting peoples wishes.
As I see it only bootleggers hoard stuff for money, but they are in a lower class compared to traders.

Money & Pride....no other reasons....this material is owned by Prince only ....but when the stuff is out ...the stuff has to be shared 4 the pleasure of all in a way or other...so i don't care what is in the mind of this so called -Elite ......Money & Pride in the end...always the same good story !


Making a promis has nothing to do with money or pride so you are just short sighted , not to mention the no-brainer of keeping uncirculating stuff to trade for other uncirculating stuff.
And the only money aspect here is because bootleggers won't release there still uncirculating stuff becuase they want money, not these so called Elites, I bet if the profitering bootlegger scammers were gone we'd be back in the old trading ways of the 80's when people traded tapes or just gave them to people who wanted to hear them. Back in the 80's when I became a fan I was given tapes left and right because other fans wanted other people to discover great unreleased tracks, when bootleg LP's and CD's became easily available in the 90's that all stopped.

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Reply #166 posted 11/28/18 12:22pm

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maybe she can find videos for Vibrator or his italian impression from Exodus segues ???

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Reply #167 posted 11/28/18 6:03pm

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Will Ava’s new $100 million dollar deal with Warner Bros compromise her telling of the Prince/WB fight? Hope not!
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Reply #168 posted 12/03/18 10:52pm

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This is interesting... The prince.org was part of the PFU rebellion against Prince in 2007 and Prince hit them with an Ali jab and killed the Protest. It was checkmate in the Prince Community. Smart man Prince. https://www.rollingstone....unky-80676/ and now prince.org wants be part of this Netflix documentary? For what? Increase their Ego-Ship? Or They just want to be on Netflix to be even more famous? Don't you think it's insulting? Prince has beeen dead for nearly three years ago and it's time to Letitgo. Respect his legacy and again Letitgo!

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Reply #169 posted 12/04/18 1:53am

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This is interesting... The prince.org was part of the PFU rebellion against Prince in 2007 and Prince hit them with an Ali jab and killed the Protest. It was checkmate in the Prince Community. Smart man Prince. https://www.rollingstone....unky-80676/ and now prince.org wants be part of this Netflix documentary? For what? Increase their Ego-Ship? Or They just want to be on Netflix to be even more famous? Don't you think it's insulting? Prince has beeen TRANSITIONED for nearly three years ago and it's time to Letitgo. Respect his legacy and again Letitgo!

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So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #170 posted 12/05/18 8:29am

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Any of the other 2 Ws yet or any info on when those Ws can be expected?
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Reply #171 posted 12/09/18 7:50am

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This is exciting news.

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