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Thread started 01/11/19 2:33am

Rainbow1

What's going on with Prince's music from the vault?

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?

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Reply #1 posted 01/11/19 4:29am

RODSERLING

Rainbow1 said:

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?



Everything has already been leaked in some form or another anyway.
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Reply #2 posted 01/11/19 6:04am

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Rainbow1 said:

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?

Everything has already been leaked in some form or another anyway.

.

There's still rumors of an unleaked Hey Hannigan Experience.

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Reply #3 posted 01/11/19 8:49am

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I recall Morris Hayes saying in an interview that Prince recorded at least ten albums prior to his passing,one being Welcome 2 America. Maybe that will eventually be released.

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Reply #4 posted 01/11/19 9:29am

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pinkcashmere23 said:

I recall Morris Hayes saying in an interview that Prince recorded at least ten albums prior to his passing,one being Welcome 2 America. Maybe that will eventually be released.


That's really ambiguous. Prior to his passing is literally his whole life. And he certainly recorded more than ten unreleased albums. Morris was around as long as Fink, if not longer. That time obviously saw many, many albums recorded. Prince always said he waited to put out albums until he had songs that sounded like each other so they were cohesive. So who knows exactly how many albums are there, but "at least 10" is a silly statement by Hayes.

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Reply #5 posted 01/11/19 9:30am

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Rainbow1 said:

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?


Did I miss where you or anyone of us were due a constant update on vault material?

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Reply #6 posted 01/11/19 10:09am

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TrivialPursuit said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I recall Morris Hayes saying in an interview that Prince recorded at least ten albums prior to his passing,one being Welcome 2 America. Maybe that will eventually be released.


That's really ambiguous. Prior to his passing is literally his whole life. And he certainly recorded more than ten unreleased albums. Morris was around as long as Fink, if not longer. That time obviously saw many, many albums recorded. Prince always said he waited to put out albums until he had songs that sounded like each other so they were cohesive. So who knows exactly how many albums are there, but "at least 10" is a silly statement by Hayes.

I believe that he may have been talking about albums that were released, as well as some that were shelved for whatever reason and he specified the time frame of 2010-2014 iirc. That may have included 20ten,W2A,protege albums and the last three Prince releases.

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Reply #7 posted 01/11/19 10:12am

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mediumdry said:

RODSERLING said:

Rainbow1 said: Everything has already been leaked in some form or another anyway.

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There's still rumors of an unleaked Hey Hannigan Experience.

Be serious. That will never leak.

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Reply #8 posted 01/11/19 7:29pm

Rainbow1

TrivialPursuit said:

Rainbow1 said:

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?


Did I miss where you or anyone of us were due a constant update on vault material?

guess so! Chillax just a question no need to get tiffy about it. After all this is forum for chat, freedom of what's on our minds extra. So what if things are repeated. Some of us are new to the chat and some have been here for years and years..we are not at the same level. Moving on...

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Reply #9 posted 01/12/19 1:11am

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RODSERLING said:

Rainbow1 said:

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?



Everything has already been leaked in some form or another anyway.



I'd say 90% of his stuff from 1978 - 1994 has leaked already. But very little from 1995 - 2016 has surfaced. Now, unless he just didn't record as much as he said, I'd say there's still plenty of unreleased material in that vault.
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Reply #10 posted 01/12/19 2:05am

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Rainbow1 said:



TrivialPursuit said:




Rainbow1 said:


hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?




Did I miss where you or anyone of us were due a constant update on vault material?



guess so! Chillax just a question no need to get tiffy about it. After all this is forum for chat, freedom of what's on our minds extra. So what if things are repeated. Some of us are new to the chat and some have been here for years and years..we are not at the same level. Moving on...


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Reply #11 posted 01/12/19 4:00am

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EmmaMcG said:

RODSERLING said:
Everything has already been leaked in some form or another anyway.
I'd say 90% of his stuff from 1978 - 1994 has leaked already. But very little from 1995 - 2016 has surfaced. Now, unless he just didn't record as much as he said, I'd say there's still plenty of unreleased material in that vault.

We don't know nothing 4 real what is in the <vault or so few....we don't know what is the unreleased material in the hands of collectors at this stage....so we can't say that....a part of the unreleased stuff has surfaced thru the years 4 sure but we don't know what the Volume of Material Prince has written thru all these decades so ...what we know 4 sure is WE DON't KNOW!!

[Edited 1/12/19 4:01am]

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Reply #12 posted 01/12/19 10:03am

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I say they should release one song per month download... ..and at the end of the year rlease them on CD with 3 extra tracks. And do this yearly FOREVER.

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Reply #13 posted 01/12/19 10:08am

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love2thenines2003 said:



EmmaMcG said:


RODSERLING said:
Everything has already been leaked in some form or another anyway.

I'd say 90% of his stuff from 1978 - 1994 has leaked already. But very little from 1995 - 2016 has surfaced. Now, unless he just didn't record as much as he said, I'd say there's still plenty of unreleased material in that vault.



We don't know nothing 4 real what is in the <vault or so few....we don't know what is the unreleased material in the hands of collectors at this stage....so we can't say that....a part of the unreleased stuff has surfaced thru the years 4 sure but we don't know what the Volume of Material Prince has written thru all these decades so ...what we know 4 sure is WE DON't KNOW!!

[Edited 1/12/19 4:01am]


I doubt that as much as 90% from 78-94 has leaked, my guess is that around 30% has leaked but we really don't know. Prince wrote and recorded new songs all the time so there could be plenty of songs from 78-94 we never heard of.
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Reply #14 posted 01/12/19 10:50am

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Rainbow1 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Did I miss where you or anyone of us were due a constant update on vault material?

guess so! Chillax just a question no need to get tiffy about it. After all this is forum for chat, freedom of what's on our minds extra. So what if things are repeated. Some of us are new to the chat and some have been here for years and years..we are not at the same level. Moving on...


I'm just askin' the question. Where is it written that Org people or whoever has to be updated on the status of his unreleased material? You wanna know where some of it is? It's in a set called Piano and a Microphone. Some of it is on Purple Rain deluxe. Dude's been dead for just under 3 years. Anyone thinking that vault material was going to be emptied and every album magically remastered with 5 disks of outtakes are sadly ignorant of how it all works.

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Reply #15 posted 01/12/19 11:07am

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hmm

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Reply #16 posted 01/12/19 1:17pm

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tend to believe most of the studio work is out... released or official. This is based on photos of the vault and known work orders. Books like The Vault (and princevalt) and the 1983 84 sessions book, as well as the photos from the vault, seem to confirm that much of it is out there.

But that is okay. There is 10 good albums worth of stuff. If it comes out and you already bought it... you should still buy it.

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Reply #17 posted 01/12/19 3:53pm

Strive


OnlyNDaUsa said:

tend to believe most of the studio work is out... released or official. This is based on photos of the vault and known work orders. Books like The Vault (and princevalt) and the 1983 84 sessions book, as well as the photos from the vault, seem to confirm that much of it is out there.

But that is okay. There is 10 good albums worth of stuff. If it comes out and you already bought it... you should still buy it.

I don't believe that.

.

The police photos only showed a portion of what the Vault was. The one at Paisley was like a snapshot of what they organized in 1996ish.

.

We know that the Estate shipped 8,000 cassettes - 1 of which was P&M83 - out to Iron Mountain. There was 0 cassettes shown in the Paisley vault. The master boxes that were found in other rooms had to have come from somewhere that wasn't the main vault since the main vault seemingly stops in 2004.

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That's not to say there's thousands of original songs we haven't heard but we only really know what he did up until he went independent and even what we know from that time is incomplete. Not to mention all the different versions of the songs he did release. Original takes, re-recordings, xtended mixes, reloaded, remixes, etc. H.M Buff said that Prince took multiple runs at Welcome 2 The Dawn. All we knew about before that interview was the one released on The Truth and the electric version that was used as hold music.


Rainbow1 said:

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?

First posthumous album is coming from Tidal this year. Only thing we know is it won't contain "any of Prince’s music catalogue that is subject to prior agreements with Warner Brothers Records."

[Edited 1/12/19 16:00pm]

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

tend to believe most of the studio work is out... released or official. This is based on photos of the vault and known work orders. Books like The Vault (and princevalt) and the 1983 84 sessions book, as well as the photos from the vault, seem to confirm that much of it is out there.

But that is okay. There is 10 good albums worth of stuff. If it comes out and you already bought it... you should still buy it.



You see, that's something I find difficult to believe. If you look at all the leaked studio recordings, the vast majority of it comes from his Warner Bros years. What about his late 90s stuff, or Musicology, 3121, Art Official Age etc. Are there really no outtakes from his post millennium work? I don't think that even half of his stuff is out there yet.
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Reply #19 posted 01/12/19 5:39pm

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RODSERLING said:

Rainbow1 said:

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?


Everything has already been leaked in some form or another anyway.


You arrogance is only equalled by your ignorance.


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Reply #20 posted 01/12/19 6:03pm

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EmmaMcG said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

tend to believe most of the studio work is out... released or official. This is based on photos of the vault and known work orders. Books like The Vault (and princevalt) and the 1983 84 sessions book, as well as the photos from the vault, seem to confirm that much of it is out there.

But that is okay. There is 10 good albums worth of stuff. If it comes out and you already bought it... you should still buy it.

You see, that's something I find difficult to believe. If you look at all the leaked studio recordings, the vast majority of it comes from his Warner Bros years. What about his late 90s stuff, or Musicology, 3121, Art Official Age etc. Are there really no outtakes from his post millennium work? I don't think that even half of his stuff is out there yet.

you are correct. And we know of some songs like "The Divine" and alternative versions like the full length "She Gave Her Angels" both are said to be epic... oh and the full version of "Come Back"

I admit I thinking more of the WB time as that is (from what I understand) what is in that vault. He said there are multiple vaults.

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Reply #21 posted 01/12/19 6:19pm

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Its still there.

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Reply #22 posted 01/12/19 6:28pm

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EmmaMcG said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

tend to believe most of the studio work is out... released or official. This is based on photos of the vault and known work orders. Books like The Vault (and princevalt) and the 1983 84 sessions book, as well as the photos from the vault, seem to confirm that much of it is out there.

But that is okay. There is 10 good albums worth of stuff. If it comes out and you already bought it... you should still buy it.

You see, that's something I find difficult to believe. If you look at all the leaked studio recordings, the vast majority of it comes from his Warner Bros years. What about his late 90s stuff, or Musicology, 3121, Art Official Age etc. Are there really no outtakes from his post millennium work? I don't think that even half of his stuff is out there yet.

There were unheard recordings from 2003-2012 in the vault. Someone who was cataloging what they could from the photos taken, put a list together and I saw a few titles that were unfamiliar to me. Some looked like they were likely outtakes from 3121 and Planet Earth from the dates they were recorded and others were said to be for the Welcome 2 America album.

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Reply #23 posted 01/12/19 6:44pm

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RODSERLING said:

Rainbow1 said:

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?

Everything has already been leaked in some form or another anyway.

Incorrect.



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Reply #24 posted 01/12/19 7:19pm

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Hopefully one day we will get to hear the unreleased material of Vanity 6, The Time and Sheila E beg

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #25 posted 01/13/19 5:15am

Kares

RODSERLING said:

Rainbow1 said:

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?

Everything has already been leaked in some form or another anyway.

.
Please see the link below.

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The Paisley Park Vault spreadsheet: https://goo.gl/zzWHrU
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Reply #26 posted 01/20/19 2:09am

Rainbow1

TrivialPursuit said:

Rainbow1 said:

guess so! Chillax just a question no need to get tiffy about it. After all this is forum for chat, freedom of what's on our minds extra. So what if things are repeated. Some of us are new to the chat and some have been here for years and years..we are not at the same level. Moving on...


I'm just askin' the question. Where is it written that Org people or whoever has to be updated on the status of his unreleased material? You wanna know where some of it is? It's in a set called Piano and a Microphone. Some of it is on Purple Rain deluxe. Dude's been dead for just under 3 years. Anyone thinking that vault material was going to be emptied and every album magically remastered with 5 disks of outtakes are sadly ignorant of how it all works.

moving on.....

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Reply #27 posted 01/20/19 2:13am

Rainbow1

Strive said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:

tend to believe most of the studio work is out... released or official. This is based on photos of the vault and known work orders. Books like The Vault (and princevalt) and the 1983 84 sessions book, as well as the photos from the vault, seem to confirm that much of it is out there.

But that is okay. There is 10 good albums worth of stuff. If it comes out and you already bought it... you should still buy it.

I don't believe that.

.

The police photos only showed a portion of what the Vault was. The one at Paisley was like a snapshot of what they organized in 1996ish.

.

We know that the Estate shipped 8,000 cassettes - 1 of which was P&M83 - out to Iron Mountain. There was 0 cassettes shown in the Paisley vault. The master boxes that were found in other rooms had to have come from somewhere that wasn't the main vault since the main vault seemingly stops in 2004.

.

That's not to say there's thousands of original songs we haven't heard but we only really know what he did up until he went independent and even what we know from that time is incomplete. Not to mention all the different versions of the songs he did release. Original takes, re-recordings, xtended mixes, reloaded, remixes, etc. H.M Buff said that Prince took multiple runs at Welcome 2 The Dawn. All we knew about before that interview was the one released on The Truth and the electric version that was used as hold music.


Rainbow1 said:

hi there I haven't heard anything about the music that was in the vault. Last I heard they were putting on digital format but nothing really has been said or what's happened to it?

First posthumous album is coming from Tidal this year. Only thing we know is it won't contain "any of Prince’s music catalogue that is subject to prior agreements with Warner Brothers Records."

[Edited 1/12/19 16:00pm]

Thanks for the info guys. I am hoping for some music but in time and hopefully people who are in charge of it will be careful and be respectful.

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Reply #28 posted 01/20/19 2:13am

Rainbow1

MarcelS67 said:

Rainbow1 said:

guess so! Chillax just a question no need to get tiffy about it. After all this is forum for chat, freedom of what's on our minds extra. So what if things are repeated. Some of us are new to the chat and some have been here for years and years..we are not at the same level. Moving on...

Right you are Rainbow1, some people.....

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Reply #29 posted 01/20/19 2:16am

Rainbow1

Goddess4Real said:

Hopefully one day we will get to hear the unreleased material of Vanity 6, The Time and Sheila E beg

Yes I hope so too. I hope we get to listen to sometime stuff he recorded with Matye for their child as well...in any case..in due time and respect of course.

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