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Thread started 08/10/19 6:32pm

macaylasdad

Kirk's deposition...smh...

With friends like this??? Speecheless....read it and let's all weep....

https://princeinvestigati...lw8aIjqzc0

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Reply #1 posted 08/10/19 7:52pm

donnyenglish

Or, perhaps we should appreciate him for finding a way to protect his privacy. Privacy was so important to Prince. Prince would not want most of those questions to be answered by anyone.

The doctors did not kill Prince. Kirk did not kill Prince. Prince was one of many casualties of the opioid crisis. Yes, the manufacturer of the pills should be accountable. Yes, whoever supplied the fatal pill to him should be accountable. Yes, Big Pharma should be accountable. But some fans have a wild imagination.

I am fiercely protective of Prince and do not hesitate to unleash wrath upon his associates who disrespect his legacy. Kirk might actually be the one associate that has been the most loyal to him until the end and now.
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Reply #2 posted 08/10/19 7:57pm

bonnie184

donnyenglish said:

Or, perhaps we should appreciate him for finding a way to protect his privacy. Privacy was so important to Prince. Prince would not want most of those questions to be answered by anyone. The doctors did not kill Prince. Kirk did not kill Prince. Prince was one of many casualties of the opioid crisis. Yes, the manufacturer of the pills should be accountable. Yes, whoever supplied the fatal pill to him should be accountable. Yes, Big Pharma should be accountable. But some fans have a wild imagination. I am fiercely protective of Prince and do not hesitate to unleash wrath upon his associates who disrespect his legacy. Kirk might actually be the one associate that has been the most loyal to him until the end and now.

yeahthat

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Reply #3 posted 08/10/19 8:49pm

nelcp777

Taking the fifth is also to cover himself from possible litigation or criminal charges.
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Reply #4 posted 08/10/19 9:23pm

Strive

And let's remember it was Kirk who



- Came back to handle Prince's business at his request.

- Told the pilot to make an emergency landing.

- Carried Prince off the plane.

- Made the follow up appointments with the local doctor.

- Tried to convince Prince to go to rehab.

- Reached out to Howard Kornfeld.

- Tried to regulate Prince's medication so he couldn't abuse it.

- Refused to publically or privately air Prince's dirty laundry after he died.



He did about everything he could for a guy who was a notorious control freak.


Also for the people that don't know. Once you invoke the fifth, you can't answer any questions.

"You can waive this right intentionally, by just answering the question, or unintentionally, by answering other questions that establish a basis on which you may be compelled to answer on the basis of rebuttal or further inquiry on the topic."

[Edited 8/10/19 21:28pm]

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Reply #5 posted 08/10/19 9:48pm

airth

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It must have been tedious for everyone involved, but I found it fascinating to read through all those questions. I don't have a problem with Kirk taking the fifth. I would have preferred him to answer selectively, but it's obvious he's been advised by his lawyer to say nothing. I say blame the US legal system, not Kirk. I hate the way he's been made into a scapegoat by some.

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Reply #6 posted 08/10/19 10:34pm

PeggyO

Indirectly, taking 'the Fifth" helps Prince's family's case by not contributing information that may be used by the Defense.

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Reply #7 posted 08/11/19 1:51am

udo

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Strive said:

He did about everything he could for a guy who was a notorious control freak.

.

And also his master.

.

Perhaps even his customer. (!)

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #8 posted 08/11/19 7:02am

PURPLEIZED3121

incredibly conflicted on this. Strive makes some excellent points.

The flip side is of course the incredily strong evidence [from the recent Jay Corn book] that soemone was sent out to buy the meds for P illegally & whoever it was chose to buy the fake, lethal cheaper pills & kept the residue cash. Truly hope it wasn't Kirk...although numnerous mentions that he dressed & moved P's body to the elevator.

Whatever, he knows A LOT!....gut instinct says he's a good guy that got caught in the middle, panicked & is now a tortured soul. If he was guilty I doubt he would be anywhere near Morris Hays & the NPG.

Truth will out eventually.

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Reply #9 posted 08/11/19 7:23am

macaylasdad

People on here a trip... The LAW was BROKEN...the LAW...remember? it's ILLEGAL....ILLEGAL to get that type of medication that he did....ILLEGAL. Someone laced the fenantyl that killed OUR artist. I didn't know Prince...most likely you didn't know him either, I find it laughable that people say "he wouldn't want that...he was a private person, respect his privacy...yada yada. His privacy was given up the day he died, when this became a criminal investigation.... which takes us to the point of this post.

My feeling is KJ knows something, it is his right to plead the 5th. However, it makes him look guilty by doing this. Does he want to know what happen to his "friend"? Who is responsible for Prince's death? I have read all the files from the investigation and it seems ALL of them were not cooperating. Why? It's a disservice to his family and his loved ones because he had access to Prince.

Save they are protecting his legacy... Name on artist who's legacy was destroyed by how they died. Prince's legacy is cemented by the music he gave us and the memories we gained from it, the sad footnote is how he died.

As Prince once said..."a true friend is not on your payroll"

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Reply #10 posted 08/11/19 7:26am

rogifan

Strive said:

And let's remember it was Kirk who



- Came back to handle Prince's business at his request.

- Told the pilot to make an emergency landing.

- Carried Prince off the plane.

- Made the follow up appointments with the local doctor.

- Tried to convince Prince to go to rehab.

- Reached out to Howard Kornfeld.

- Tried to regulate Prince's medication so he couldn't abuse it.

- Refused to publically or privately air Prince's dirty laundry after he died.



He did about everything he could for a guy who was a notorious control freak.


Also for the people that don't know. Once you invoke the fifth, you can't answer any questions.

"You can waive this right intentionally, by just answering the question, or unintentionally, by answering other questions that establish a basis on which you may be compelled to answer on the basis of rebuttal or further inquiry on the topic."

[Edited 8/10/19 21:28pm]


💯 this. Let's face it the person fans are really pissed at is no longer here. So they take out their anger and frustration on everyone else.

Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #11 posted 08/11/19 7:46am

macaylasdad

rogifan said:

Strive said:

And let's remember it was Kirk who



- Came back to handle Prince's business at his request.

- Told the pilot to make an emergency landing.

- Carried Prince off the plane.

- Made the follow up appointments with the local doctor.

- Tried to convince Prince to go to rehab.

- Reached out to Howard Kornfeld.

- Tried to regulate Prince's medication so he couldn't abuse it.

- Refused to publically or privately air Prince's dirty laundry after he died.



He did about everything he could for a guy who was a notorious control freak.


Also for the people that don't know. Once you invoke the fifth, you can't answer any questions.

"You can waive this right intentionally, by just answering the question, or unintentionally, by answering other questions that establish a basis on which you may be compelled to answer on the basis of rebuttal or further inquiry on the topic."

[Edited 8/10/19 21:28pm]


💯 this. Let's face it the person fans are really pissed at is no longer here. So they take out their anger and frustration on everyone else.

Pissed? No. Prince was going to do what he was going to do. However, he accidentally died from an OD. Fact. KJ blatantly refused to cooperate. Why? Please give a intelligent reason of why he would do that? If not for Prince, wherever Prince got these pills, the person who is manufacturing these are giving them to other people who are dying because of it. So let's take KJ out of this...if you had that type of info, would you share it with the police? I know I would.

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Reply #12 posted 08/11/19 8:00am

rogifan

macaylasdad said:

rogifan said:


💯 this. Let's face it the person fans are really pissed at is no longer here. So they take out their anger and frustration on everyone else.

Pissed? No. Prince was going to do what he was going to do. However, he accidentally died from an OD. Fact. KJ blatantly refused to cooperate. Why? Please give a intelligent reason of why he would do that? If not for Prince, wherever Prince got these pills, the person who is manufacturing these are giving them to other people who are dying because of it. So let's take KJ out of this...if you had that type of info, would you share it with the police? I know I would.


Why? Because he was going to protect Prince's privacy no matter what. People can hate him for that a;l they want but KJ wasn't pinning Prince down and forcing him to swallow pills. Being pissed at KJ isn't going to bring Prince back or solve the opioid crisis.

Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #13 posted 08/11/19 8:08am

PennyPurple

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Strive said:

And let's remember it was Kirk who



- Came back to handle Prince's business at his request.

- Told the pilot to make an emergency landing.

- Carried Prince off the plane.

- Made the follow up appointments with the local doctor.

- Tried to convince Prince to go to rehab.

- Reached out to Howard Kornfeld.

- Tried to regulate Prince's medication so he couldn't abuse it.

- Refused to publically or privately air Prince's dirty laundry after he died.



He did about everything he could for a guy who was a notorious control freak.


Also for the people that don't know. Once you invoke the fifth, you can't answer any questions.

"You can waive this right intentionally, by just answering the question, or unintentionally, by answering other questions that establish a basis on which you may be compelled to answer on the basis of rebuttal or further inquiry on the topic."

[Edited 8/10/19 21:28pm]

Let's also remember that it was Kirk who wouldn't let Prince answer questions that the Dr. in Moline was trying to ask him. It was Kirk who interjected himself into every aspect of Moline.



Let's also remember that it was Kirk along with Phaedra who went into PP and deleted files off of the computers and shredded things.


Let's also remember it was Kirk who received prescriptions in his name for Prince which is ILLEGAL.


Let's also remember how the associates asked Kirk, what are they supposed to say to the detectives.


Let's also remember that Kirk's 1st phone call after finding Prince, wasn't to 911...it was to Phaedra.


Let's also remember that it was PRINCE, who let Kirk live in his house free of charge and provided vehicles to Kirk.


Let's also remember that it was PRINCE who paid for Kirk's family's medical bills.


Let's also remember that it was PRINCE who funded Kirk's money for his fitness business.



Of course Kirk took the 5th, he wants the Estate to blame everyone else except for him, it's Walgreen's fault...it's Moline's fault, it's Dr. S fault, It's the Kornfields fault...any of you notice a pattern here?


Kornfields have asked to be excused from the suit, as they never treated Prince. I hope they are excused from it.

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Reply #14 posted 08/11/19 9:03am

andrewm7

[color=blue] Prince believed he was taking one type of tablet, that he had taken in the past, and this tablet was fake and laced with fentanyl. Kirk shouldn’t wear the weight of this in my opinion, but I would love to see someone go to jail for manufacturing these pills and fraudulently selling them and killing my favourite artist. It saddens me that this will almost certainly not happen.[\color] sad
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Reply #15 posted 08/11/19 9:49am

ISaidLifeIsJus
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There is no doubt the Nelson Family attorney already knew all the answers to which KJ took the 5th.

This lawsuit is all about going for the deep pockets of the corporate defendants.

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Reply #16 posted 08/11/19 11:19am

jfenster

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There is no doubt the Nelson Family attorney already knew all the answers to which KJ took the 5th.

This lawsuit is all about going for the deep pockets of the corporate defendants.

so the money is more important than thee truth

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Reply #17 posted 08/11/19 11:41am

PeggyO

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There is no doubt the Nelson Family attorney already knew all the answers to which KJ took the 5th.

This lawsuit is all about going for the deep pockets of the corporate defendants.

Yes.

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Reply #18 posted 08/11/19 11:52am

ISaidLifeIsJus
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jfenster said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There is no doubt the Nelson Family attorney already knew all the answers to which KJ took the 5th.

This lawsuit is all about going for the deep pockets of the corporate defendants.

so the money is more important than thee truth



The family knows the truth.

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Reply #19 posted 08/11/19 12:08pm

PennyPurple

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

jfenster said:

so the money is more important than thee truth



The family knows the truth.

Yes, they do. So why waste $$ and time filing this suit, when it's nobody's fault that this suit is against?

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Reply #20 posted 08/11/19 12:43pm

PeggyO

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



The family knows the truth.

Yes, they do. So why waste $$ and time filing this suit, when it's nobody's fault that this suit is against?

Because they are likely hoping these corporate entities will settle for 'an undisclosed amount' just to get them out of their hair.

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Reply #21 posted 08/11/19 3:26pm

TheTruth123

macaylasdad said:

People on here a trip... The LAW was BROKEN...the LAW...remember? it's ILLEGAL....ILLEGAL to get that type of medication that he did....ILLEGAL. Someone laced the fenantyl that killed OUR artist. I didn't know Prince...most likely you didn't know him either, I find it laughable that people say "he wouldn't want that...he was a private person, respect his privacy...yada yada. His privacy was given up the day he died, when this became a criminal investigation.... which takes us to the point of this post.



My feeling is KJ knows something, it is his right to plead the 5th. However, it makes him look guilty by doing this. Does he want to know what happen to his "friend"? Who is responsible for Prince's death? I have read all the files from the investigation and it seems ALL of them were not cooperating. Why? It's a disservice to his family and his loved ones because he had access to Prince.



Save they are protecting his legacy... Name on artist who's legacy was destroyed by how they died. Prince's legacy is cemented by the music he gave us and the memories we gained from it, the sad footnote is how he died.



As Prince once said..."a true friend is not on your payroll"




But a true friend will sit you down and tell you a girl is using you. (at least in regular circles).
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Reply #22 posted 08/11/19 3:30pm

TheTruth123

I thought Kirk kept it light by doing this.
All these people who want to change the past, getting their hands in there everywhere...
Kirk must’ve felt Prince would want him to plead the fifth and let this rest.
I thought it was pretty nice of Kirk not to correct people’s english and hundred year memory loss. 😀
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Reply #23 posted 08/11/19 3:44pm

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Good Case Law. reading


Cited:

Slochower v. Board of Education, 350 U.S. 551 (1956)



https://supreme.justia.co...s/350/551/


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Reply #24 posted 08/11/19 4:12pm

PeteSilas

goddamn you prince, i knew if you died the way you did, i'd see "smh" a billion times from your idiot fans. goddamn you.

Prince.org: With fans like these he didn't need haters.
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Reply #25 posted 08/11/19 4:15pm

PeteSilas

TheTruth123 said:

macaylasdad said:

People on here a trip... The LAW was BROKEN...the LAW...remember? it's ILLEGAL....ILLEGAL to get that type of medication that he did....ILLEGAL. Someone laced the fenantyl that killed OUR artist. I didn't know Prince...most likely you didn't know him either, I find it laughable that people say "he wouldn't want that...he was a private person, respect his privacy...yada yada. His privacy was given up the day he died, when this became a criminal investigation.... which takes us to the point of this post.

My feeling is KJ knows something, it is his right to plead the 5th. However, it makes him look guilty by doing this. Does he want to know what happen to his "friend"? Who is responsible for Prince's death? I have read all the files from the investigation and it seems ALL of them were not cooperating. Why? It's a disservice to his family and his loved ones because he had access to Prince.

Save they are protecting his legacy... Name on artist who's legacy was destroyed by how they died. Prince's legacy is cemented by the music he gave us and the memories we gained from it, the sad footnote is how he died.

As Prince once said..."a true friend is not on your payroll"

But a true friend will sit you down and tell you a girl is using you. (at least in regular circles).

ya, but a "true friend" says that about everyone but themselves while all the other "true friends" say the same.

Prince.org: With fans like these he didn't need haters.
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Reply #26 posted 08/11/19 5:11pm

macaylasdad

airth said:

It must have been tedious for everyone involved, but I found it fascinating to read through all those questions. I don't have a problem with Kirk taking the fifth. I would have preferred him to answer selectively, but it's obvious he's been advised by his lawyer to say nothing. I say blame the US legal system, not Kirk. I hate the way he's been made into a scapegoat by some.

Kirk is not the scapegoat here... he merely did not answer questions that he could have...the question is why? Who was he protecting?

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Reply #27 posted 08/11/19 6:13pm

PennyPurple

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You would think that Meron would be called to testify.

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Reply #28 posted 08/11/19 6:35pm

berlinas2k

PennyPurple said:



Strive said:


And let's remember it was Kirk who





- Came back to handle Prince's business at his request.


- Told the pilot to make an emergency landing.


- Carried Prince off the plane.


- Made the follow up appointments with the local doctor.


- Tried to convince Prince to go to rehab.


- Reached out to Howard Kornfeld.


- Tried to regulate Prince's medication so he couldn't abuse it.


- Refused to publically or privately air Prince's dirty laundry after he died.





He did about everything he could for a guy who was a notorious control freak.


Also for the people that don't know. Once you invoke the fifth, you can't answer any questions.

"You can waive this right intentionally, by just answering the question, or unintentionally, by answering other questions that establish a basis on which you may be compelled to answer on the basis of rebuttal or further inquiry on the topic."


[Edited 8/10/19 21:28pm]



Let's also remember that it was Kirk who wouldn't let Prince answer questions that the Dr. in Moline was trying to ask him. It was Kirk who interjected himself into every aspect of Moline.





Let's also remember that it was Kirk along with Phaedra who went into PP and deleted files off of the computers and shredded things.



Let's also remember it was Kirk who received prescriptions in his name for Prince which is ILLEGAL.



Let's also remember how the associates asked Kirk, what are they supposed to say to the detectives.



Let's also remember that Kirk's 1st phone call after finding Prince, wasn't to 911...it was to Phaedra.



Let's also remember that it was PRINCE, who let Kirk live in his house free of charge and provided vehicles to Kirk.



Let's also remember that it was PRINCE who paid for Kirk's family's medical bills.



Let's also remember that it was PRINCE who funded Kirk's money for his fitness business.




Of course Kirk took the 5th, he wants the Estate to blame everyone else except for him, it's Walgreen's fault...it's Moline's fault, it's Dr. S fault, It's the Kornfields fault...any of you notice a pattern here?



Kornfields have asked to be excused from the suit, as they never treated Prince. I hope they are excused from it.



Let’s also remember that it was P that made the decision to put the pills into his body. Was he in pain and did he need help? Most certainly yes to both. But the ultimate responsibility of this whole situation lies with him. As much as we all don’t like that he’s gone, the choices he made led to the outcome. They can put KJ in jail tomorrow forever and it won’t change anything and won’t make anyone feel any better.
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Reply #29 posted 08/11/19 6:47pm

looby

macaylasdad said:

People on here a trip... The LAW was BROKEN...the LAW...remember? it's ILLEGAL....ILLEGAL to get that type of medication that he did....ILLEGAL. Someone laced the fenantyl that killed OUR artist. I didn't know Prince...most likely you didn't know him either, I find it laughable that people say "he wouldn't want that...he was a private person, respect his privacy...yada yada. His privacy was given up the day he died, when this became a criminal investigation.... which takes us to the point of this post.

My feeling is KJ knows something, it is his right to plead the 5th. However, it makes him look guilty by doing this. Does he want to know what happen to his "friend"? Who is responsible for Prince's death? I have read all the files from the investigation and it seems ALL of them were not cooperating. Why? It's a disservice to his family and his loved ones because he had access to Prince.

Save they are protecting his legacy... Name on artist who's legacy was destroyed by how they died. Prince's legacy is cemented by the music he gave us and the memories we gained from it, the sad footnote is how he died.

As Prince once said..."a true friend is not on your payroll"

Very well said, I could not agree more! I think one would care more about trying to find out who and what was responsible for the death of Prince than protecting his privacy, that's makes no sense whatsoever! Obviously Kirk has something to hide, that's why he plead the 5th.

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