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Thread started 11/30/19 7:41am

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Did You Guys See Questlove’s Post About The “1999” Re-Release?

LordT disbelief I’ll be so glad to see more Prince news without this guy piping in anymore. The more he speaks, the harder I find it to like him.
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Reply #1 posted 11/30/19 8:39am

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Reply #2 posted 11/30/19 8:48am

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Yep! He posted it on FB & Twitter too.
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Reply #3 posted 11/30/19 8:55am

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Spot the difference?

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Reply #4 posted 11/30/19 9:28am

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I avoid anything and everything about him, he's too damn snobby and "privileged" disbelief and his opinions and reviews about Prince and his music don't impress me at all. Thoroughly unlikeable person for the most part.

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Reply #5 posted 11/30/19 9:34am

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I don't see this as a reason to hate a dude, it's actually a common attitude among certain groups of collectors (of any artist). What cracks me up, is that he thinks his privilege allowed him to hear this stuff. Yea, maybe for a track or two, but most of this stuff had been available on the trading circuit for years and, subsequently, for anyone who ever stumbled upon file-sharing.

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Reply #6 posted 11/30/19 10:59am

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PliablyPurple said:

I don't see this as a reason to hate a dude, it's actually a common attitude among certain groups of collectors (of any artist). What cracks me up, is that he thinks his privilege allowed him to hear this stuff. Yea, maybe for a track or two, but most of this stuff had been available on the trading circuit for years and, subsequently, for anyone who ever stumbled upon file-sharing.


Well, not totally. He's mentioned certain things he's heard that we've never had in circulation. And what about the things he hasn't mentioned, the things he's kept quiet to himself and not talked about? We simply don't know. Quest isn't dim that he doesn't understand others have bootlegs. He said as much in his post, that we all have hissy, 4th generation tapes that we've loved for so long. I think he's speaking a bit to the fun of having something that isn't meant to be out yet; it feels naughty or mischevious to own a copy of a copy of the Black Album, or whatever. That romance is gone. We asked for vault copies of stuff, and now we have them. And folks are still bitchin'. But anyway...

I'm not sure why people have to hate on Questlove. He's a fan like all of us. The real problem is that every Prince fan thinks they're the biggest and best Prince fan on the planet. No one knows more about Prince than that person. It's a perpetual pissing contest. Even Per Nilsen, Anil Dash, or whoever can't compete with those who were around him and friends with him. While outside fans like Per or Anil (just using them as examples) can offer an outsiders look in, I'd much rather hear from folks like Quest or Susan Rogers, Peggy Mac, etc. Even when the books started coming out and people found a reason to bash on Mayte, I thought "why wouldn't you want to hear from the first person Prince put a ring on her finger? She had something Susannah, Sheila, Susan, or whoever else he may or may not have proposed to had. That is the person I want to hear from." And out of all of the books that have come out, I've only purchased Mayte's and Prince's. I read Steve Parke's, which was a terrific read from a photographer's POV.

So instead of hating on Questlove, why not just appreciate him as any fellow fan who is also the biggest Prince fan on the planet? Why not listen to his ideas along with anyone else's and filter them down and see what resonates instead of what irritates? Isn't it just easier and less cunty? Also, has anyone gotten after the elitists mentioned in an existing thread about live videos that need to come out, and how they're sitting on multi-cam pro shots of Lovesexy or SOTT or Parade shows? If Quest had so much privilege that he was able to hear shit we've never heard, instead of bashing him for it - pick his motherfucking brain to learn everything you can. It's what Prince fans do, right?

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Reply #7 posted 11/30/19 11:04am

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Nothing reprehensible about his comment.



When you pay extra for bootlegs that aren't widely circulating you're of course taking the risk that one day those tracks will get leaked by someone, or as in this case, get released officially. So, you're really just paying for getting to hear them before most others.

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Reply #8 posted 11/30/19 11:06am

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i see where he is coming from. But he is kind of a jerk about it. I liked having most of these to listen to... and people have asked "what is this?" and I could tell them it is unreleased... and they would go oh wow... but with each release I have fewer unreleased songs... but that is the deal I made.

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Reply #9 posted 11/30/19 11:33am

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It’s not so much hating on him. He’s extremely snobby about it. Not to mention he keeps reiterating about things he has that we don’t. Also this annoying ass notion that prince didn’t do anything worthwhile post 1988. It’s sickening. It’s the holier than thou attitude




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PliablyPurple said:


I don't see this as a reason to hate a dude, it's actually a common attitude among certain groups of collectors (of any artist). What cracks me up, is that he thinks his privilege allowed him to hear this stuff. Yea, maybe for a track or two, but most of this stuff had been available on the trading circuit for years and, subsequently, for anyone who ever stumbled upon file-sharing.




Well, not totally. He's mentioned certain things he's heard that we've never had in circulation. And what about the things he hasn't mentioned, the things he's kept quiet to himself and not talked about? We simply don't know. Quest isn't dim that he doesn't understand others have bootlegs. He said as much in his post, that we all have hissy, 4th generation tapes that we've loved for so long. I think he's speaking a bit to the fun of having something that isn't meant to be out yet; it feels naughty or mischevious to own a copy of a copy of the Black Album, or whatever. That romance is gone. We asked for vault copies of stuff, and now we have them. And folks are still bitchin'. But anyway...

I'm not sure why people have to hate on Questlove. He's a fan like all of us. The real problem is that every Prince fan thinks they're the biggest and best Prince fan on the planet. No one knows more about Prince than that person. It's a perpetual pissing contest. Even Per Nilsen, Anil Dash, or whoever can't compete with those who were around him and friends with him. While outside fans like Per or Anil (just using them as examples) can offer an outsiders look in, I'd much rather hear from folks like Quest or Susan Rogers, Peggy Mac, etc. Even when the books started coming out and people found a reason to bash on Mayte, I thought "why wouldn't you want to hear from the first person Prince put a ring on her finger? She had something Susannah, Sheila, Susan, or whoever else he may or may not have proposed to had. That is the person I want to hear from." And out of all of the books that have come out, I've only purchased Mayte's and Prince's. I read Steve Parke's, which was a terrific read from a photographer's POV.

So instead of hating on Questlove, why not just appreciate him as any fellow fan who is also the biggest Prince fan on the planet? Why not listen to his ideas along with anyone else's and filter them down and see what resonates instead of what irritates? Isn't it just easier and less cunty? Also, has anyone gotten after the elitists mentioned in an existing thread about live videos that need to come out, and how they're sitting on multi-cam pro shots of Lovesexy or SOTT or Parade shows? If Quest had so much privilege that he was able to hear shit we've never heard, instead of bashing him for it - pick his motherfucking brain to learn everything you can. It's what Prince fans do, right?

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Reply #10 posted 11/30/19 11:36am

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TrivialPursuit said:



PliablyPurple said:


I don't see this as a reason to hate a dude, it's actually a common attitude among certain groups of collectors (of any artist). What cracks me up, is that he thinks his privilege allowed him to hear this stuff. Yea, maybe for a track or two, but most of this stuff had been available on the trading circuit for years and, subsequently, for anyone who ever stumbled upon file-sharing.




Well, not totally. He's mentioned certain things he's heard that we've never had in circulation. And what about the things he hasn't mentioned, the things he's kept quiet to himself and not talked about? We simply don't know. Quest isn't dim that he doesn't understand others have bootlegs. He said as much in his post, that we all have hissy, 4th generation tapes that we've loved for so long. I think he's speaking a bit to the fun of having something that isn't meant to be out yet; it feels naughty or mischevious to own a copy of a copy of the Black Album, or whatever. That romance is gone. We asked for vault copies of stuff, and now we have them. And folks are still bitchin'. But anyway...

I'm not sure why people have to hate on Questlove. He's a fan like all of us. The real problem is that every Prince fan thinks they're the biggest and best Prince fan on the planet. No one knows more about Prince than that person. It's a perpetual pissing contest. Even Per Nilsen, Anil Dash, or whoever can't compete with those who were around him and friends with him. While outside fans like Per or Anil (just using them as examples) can offer an outsiders look in, I'd much rather hear from folks like Quest or Susan Rogers, Peggy Mac, etc. Even when the books started coming out and people found a reason to bash on Mayte, I thought "why wouldn't you want to hear from the first person Prince put a ring on her finger? She had something Susannah, Sheila, Susan, or whoever else he may or may not have proposed to had. That is the person I want to hear from." And out of all of the books that have come out, I've only purchased Mayte's and Prince's. I read Steve Parke's, which was a terrific read from a photographer's POV.

So instead of hating on Questlove, why not just appreciate him as any fellow fan who is also the biggest Prince fan on the planet? Why not listen to his ideas along with anyone else's and filter them down and see what resonates instead of what irritates? Isn't it just easier and less cunty? Also, has anyone gotten after the elitists mentioned in an existing thread about live videos that need to come out, and how they're sitting on multi-cam pro shots of Lovesexy or SOTT or Parade shows? If Quest had so much privilege that he was able to hear shit we've never heard, instead of bashing him for it - pick his motherfucking brain to learn everything you can. It's what Prince fans do, right?



Sorry but he lost me when he started outright saying his status should've entitled him to hearing music the rest of us didn't have access to. That kind of arrogance is an ugly part of the human condition that is a quick turn off. Let's not pretend Quest has done a single thing for the benefit of the prince fan community. Well, except for inspiring the Moneyapolis mix of Undisputed I guess.
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Reply #11 posted 11/30/19 11:51am

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I don’t know, man. I admire the reverence he dedicates to other living legends ala Questlove Supreme podcast, but he has always rubbed me the wrong way whenever he talked about Prince in general or how he teased fans non stop about music they’ll never get to hear in the past in specific. No worries, we finally get a glimpse of hope via this new release,,and what does he finally say? He’s conflicted that we got to hear it after he dedicated his privilege/fame to get what we haven’t lol what an obnoxious & cliquish thing to say, P’s music was not made solely for him to enjoy. You’re not gonna share those multiple outtakes of “Do Me Baby”? Brilliant! Shut the fuck up & enjoy it in silence. It’s gotten to the point where I can’t stop rolling my eyes whenever he mentions Prince’ name.

And this is coming from somebody who wants to like him.
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Reply #12 posted 11/30/19 12:01pm

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Awwwww...poor Questlove. He thought merely having access to someone else’s artistic achievement made him special. With every release from the Prince estate, he’s less special and more like the great unwashed. What a tragedy for him.
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Genesia said:

Awwwww...poor Questlove. He thought merely having access to someone else’s artistic achievement made him special. With every release from the Prince estate, he’s less special and more like the great unwashed. What a tragedy for him.

lol lol

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Reply #14 posted 11/30/19 1:09pm

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i guess he'll feel slighted when the second coming movie is releaseed

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Reply #15 posted 11/30/19 1:47pm

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i guess he'll feel slighted when the second coming movie is releaseed

And this wil B the case soon or later because "Sauron"Label owns it & will release it !!

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Reply #16 posted 11/30/19 2:15pm

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Reply #17 posted 11/30/19 3:24pm

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I tried to like this guy. I want to because i understand loving music like a religion. Quest has amazing musical knowledge but everything I read from his mouth comes off ultra elitist and talking down.

His latest tweet is so damn tonedeaf. I appreciate the thoughts about wondering about Prince intention and also about the hiss in the old versions. That was fine but calling out using his fame to gain access and then being upset sounds very low EQ.

He brags about Wally, and now being able to play songs so people don’t ask him about where he got it and what it is.

Can’t imagine hitting it off with this dude if we met.
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Reply #18 posted 11/30/19 3:31pm

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TheEnglishGent said:



Genesia said:


Awwwww...poor Questlove. He thought merely having access to someone else’s artistic achievement made him special. With every release from the Prince estate, he’s less special and more like the great unwashed. What a tragedy for him.

lol lol




Exactly. I fail to discern how he's more of an 'authority' than anyone else here, particularly given his strong bias towards material no later than 1988.
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love2thenines2003 said:

jfenster said:

i guess he'll feel slighted when the second coming movie is releaseed

And this wil B the case soon or later because "Sauron"Label owns it & will release it !!

I do not know what this is...however... there was an interview with the guy who filmed it (the concert and the story elements) and he said that Prince bought back the concert film back but not the story parts... so how did this "sauron" get it? (and isn't that a lord of the rings thing?)

Here is a link to when the interview was posted....

https://prince.org/msg/7/381677

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Reply #20 posted 11/30/19 4:00pm

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Welp, it sounds like my own comment isn't far off the mark of many here lol lol

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Reply #21 posted 11/30/19 4:01pm

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Genesia said:

Awwwww...poor Questlove. He thought merely having access to someone else’s artistic achievement made him special. With every release from the Prince estate, he’s less special and more like the great unwashed. What a tragedy for him.

lol lol

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Reply #22 posted 11/30/19 4:28pm

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Genesia said:

Awwwww...poor Questlove. He thought merely having access to someone else’s artistic achievement made him special. With every release from the Prince estate, he’s less special and more like the great unwashed. What a tragedy for him.

To be fair though, he did play a fairly integral role in one of the best R&B/funk albums since Prince’s heyday (D’Angelo’s Voodoo).

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Questlove's post made me lose what little respect I had for him. He's an entitled jerk. The worst part of his post for me was when he claimed Prince had run out of ideas in 1990. rolleyes

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Reply #24 posted 11/30/19 5:13pm

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with all the problems going on in the world we should really care about Questlove not being the only one hearing some Prince songs..

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Reply #25 posted 11/30/19 5:16pm

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totally blown up out of all proportion by some nut jobs! AND many missed the point he makes about the realisation that his /our hero isn't coming back.

Anyone who follows his social media knows that he phrases things differently.

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Reply #26 posted 11/30/19 5:43pm

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

totally blown up out of all proportion by some nut jobs! AND many missed the point he makes about the realisation that his /our hero isn't coming back.



Anyone who follows his social media knows that he phrases things differently.



Yes, he phrases things like an entitled dickhead.
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Reply #27 posted 11/30/19 6:01pm

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Hey, the artistic achievements of Prince and our access to them, made all of us feel special. It's part of what made P so great. His songs, both live and studio, touched us and made our lives better. Maybe we all didn't receive or process that feeling the same way, but as an idea standing on its own, it lives.

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

totally blown up out of all proportion by some nut jobs! AND many missed the point he makes about the realisation that his /our hero isn't coming back.



Anyone who follows his social media knows that he phrases things differently.



I don't have an issue with the realization, I don’t even have an issue with the post-90s output, it’s just opinion. I did have an issue with the “ya’lls” comment, it tells me he’s disgruntled he’s no longer gonna keep the humble brag charade and nobody is gonna brown nose him in the comments section to hear those “outtakes” anymore. Face it, the guy is an elitist douche, this remark didn’t really come as a left-field.
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Reply #29 posted 11/30/19 7:51pm

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PliablyPurple said:

Hey, the artistic achievements of Prince and our access to them, made all of us feel special. It's part of what made P so great. His songs, both live and studio, touched us and made our lives better. Maybe we all didn't receive or process that feeling the same way, but as an idea standing on its own, it lives.

Well put smile

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