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Jam & Lewis respond to Janet being at Super Bowl

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It's sort of disappointing that she won't be there. It's such a great opportunity for a moment. A fucking MOMENT, full circle, big ass period on the whole thing in a new and final way. It probably won't happen, but I'm still crossing my fingers.

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Will we see Janet Jackson in Minneapolis during Super Bowl festivities?

After all, Minneapolis is her adopted second hometown because of all the time she spent here writing and recording with producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. And Jam and Lewis are here helming Super Bowl Live on the Nicollet Mall.

And Justin Timberlake will be here, doing the halftime show at the Super Bowl. Maybe Jackson will want to do a make-good for their wardrobe malfunction mishap at the 2004 Super Bowl.

Will Janet be here?

“I wouldn’t bet on it,” says Lewis. “I don’t know if she likes football that much. But you never know when she’s going to stop by.”

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Reply #1 posted 01/30/18 1:07pm

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It's sort of disappointing that she won't be there. It's such a great opportunity for a moment. A fucking MOMENT, full circle, big ass period on the whole thing in a new and final way. It probably won't happen, but I'm still crossing my fingers.

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Will we see Janet Jackson in Minneapolis during Super Bowl festivities?

After all, Minneapolis is her adopted second hometown because of all the time she spent here writing and recording with producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. And Jam and Lewis are here helming Super Bowl Live on the Nicollet Mall.

And Justin Timberlake will be here, doing the halftime show at the Super Bowl. Maybe Jackson will want to do a make-good for their wardrobe malfunction mishap at the 2004 Super Bowl.

Will Janet be here?

“I wouldn’t bet on it,” says Lewis. “I don’t know if she likes football that much. But you never know when she’s going to stop by.”

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I'm wondering how to see the Super Bowl Live acts. That should be fun.

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Reply #2 posted 01/30/18 2:13pm

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I'm wondering how to see the Super Bowl Live acts. That should be fun.


It was partly last night. The Revolution played. St. Paul & others (including Org moderator Militant's Twitter doing retweets) were posting videos. I don't know if the events are over more than one night.

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Reply #3 posted 01/30/18 3:15pm

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So to sum it up, she may or may not be there.
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Reply #4 posted 01/31/18 8:47pm

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I wouldn't blame Janet in the least bit if she was a no-show. It happened so long ago. I'm sure she's forgiven JT and has totally moved on.
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Reply #5 posted 01/31/18 10:08pm

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I dont know why people want janet at the sb. It did nothing for her and they threated her like shit. Why come back there?
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Reply #6 posted 02/01/18 10:22am

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I dont know why people want janet at the sb. It did nothing for her and they threated her like shit. Why come back there?

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I dont know why people want janet at the sb. It did nothing for her and they threated her like shit. Why come back there?

Yep, especially with JT admitting he did it on purpose

I don't usually watch the 1/2time, I'll be skipping this year

I prefer watching these pre shows by the Purple Artists

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nextedition said:

I dont know why people want janet at the sb. It did nothing for her and they threated her like shit. Why come back there?

Yep, especially with JT admitting he did it on purpose

I don't usually watch the 1/2time, I'll be skipping this year

I prefer watching these pre shows by the Purple Artists

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You're not gonna watch the SB halftime show? JT is supposed to do a Prince tribute....maybe just a rumor?

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https://www.cbssports.com...rs-prince/

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Reply #9 posted 02/01/18 2:09pm

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I dont know why people want janet at the sb. It did nothing for her and they threated her like shit. Why come back there?

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I agree; if I were Janet, I would stay away -- it's just negative press.

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cloveringold85 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yep, especially with JT admitting he did it on purpose

I don't usually watch the 1/2time, I'll be skipping this year

I prefer watching these pre shows by the Purple Artists

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You're not gonna watch the SB halftime show? JT is supposed to do a Prince tribute....maybe just a rumor?

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https://www.cbssports.com...rs-prince/

No, I don't care for most Prince tributes outside of the Associate Artists

If it was Joni Mitchell, I would watch

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cloveringold85 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yep, especially with JT admitting he did it on purpose

I don't usually watch the 1/2time, I'll be skipping this year

I prefer watching these pre shows by the Purple Artists

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You're not gonna watch the SB halftime show? JT is supposed to do a Prince tribute....maybe just a rumor?

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https://www.cbssports.com...rs-prince/

I hope it's just a rumor.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

cloveringold85 said:

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You're not gonna watch the SB halftime show? JT is supposed to do a Prince tribute....maybe just a rumor?

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https://www.cbssports.com...rs-prince/

No, I don't care for most Prince tributes outside of the Associate Artists

If it was Joni Mitchell, I would watch

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Yea, you're right.

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MotownSubdivision said:

cloveringold85 said:

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You're not gonna watch the SB halftime show? JT is supposed to do a Prince tribute....maybe just a rumor?

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https://www.cbssports.com...rs-prince/

I hope it's just a rumor.

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Me too! God, I hope JT doesn't do that, NO!! mad

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Prince already did the SB; so if JT does that, it makes him look like he's trying to outdo what Prince already created.......the badass PRN; recognize!!!! mad mad

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I dont know why people want janet at the sb. It did nothing for her and they threated her like shit. Why come back there?

yeahthat Justin Timberlake’s Glaring Time’s Up Hypocrisy https://www.thedailybeast...-hypocrisy

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14 years after Super Bowl Nipplegate, Justin Timberlake is still a boob http://www.kansascity.com...17784.html

Nine-sixteenths of a Super Bowl second forever changed the halftime game.

We all remember Nipplegate, when Janet Jackson’s breast became a weapon of moral destruction. Ta-Ta the Terrorist devastated the country, and even Justin Timberlake, who tore the material that exposed her boob, was a victim.

He apologized. She apologized. While Janet drew a lifetime penalty flag, Justin catapulted into superstardom. And 14 years later he’ll headline the halftime show this Super Bowl Sunday. Perfectly timed, his new funk-and-flannel album, “Man of the Woods,” came out Friday.

In an open letter earlier this week, the Parents Television Council wrote of their hopes to not see a 2004 repeat. They asked for a safe show. But I’d like to know if a breast really is so much more dangerous than the inequity of race and gender?
Since that 2004 Super Bowl, Justin has been happily riding the wave of white male privilege. He was at the Grammys just after the nip slip. Janet was discouraged from attending. The NFL, FCC and family values advocates scapegoated her.


According to Rolling Stone, Viacom blackballed her, keeping her videos off MTV, VH1 and radio stations. Babies are breastfed every day, but hers, revealed by accident for less than a second, crippled her career.

And Justin? Two years after the nip slip, he was in a “Saturday Night Live” digital short singing about his “Dick in a Box.” It won an Emmy. A white man can sing about his penis and be celebrated. But a woman, especially a black woman, is vilified because her bra broke.

“I personally thought that was really unfair,” Michael Powell, who was FCC chairman during The Incident, finally told ESPN 10 years later. “It all turned into being about her. In reality, if you slow the thing down, it’s Justin ripping off her breastplate.”

Justin knows he got off easy.

“If you consider it 50-50, then I probably got 10 percent of the blame,” he told MTV News in 2006. “I think America is harsher on women. I think America is unfairly harsh on ethnic people.”


But he never took action, never used his platform to lift her or speak out on the injustice of it all. So it makes sense Janet wasn’t interested in taking his call around then, as she told Oprah in a 2006 interview. He left her hanging.
Salli Frattini, the producer of the 2004 halftime show and the first woman to hold that honor, claims Justin did the right thing.

“I believe he kind of manned up and talked about it all, and I’m not sure she really did, you know?” Frattini told USA Today. “I’m glad his career has continued to flourish. I’m still a supporter, and I have no regrets and disregard for Justin.’’

But she told them Janet’s remorse failed. I guess she should have asked her brother Michael Jackson (Justin’s blueprint) to Moonwalk around her apology for believability. Or maybe J.T.’s white maleness was enough to win everyone over instantaneously.


It’s taken almost all 14 of the years since Super Bowl XXXVIII for Janet to forge a comeback.

Last year’s “State of the World” tour was her moment to celebrate more than 10 studio albums spanning nearly four decades. She’s headlining at both Panorama and Essence Fest this summer, but the NFL decided it was Justin, and only Justin, who was worthy of the grand stage.

But we’re talking about the NFL, where discrimination is rampant. Remember when CBS dumped Rihanna’s music from its Thursday Night Football intro during a Ravens-Steelers game in the aftermath of the Ray Rice domestic abuse tragedy?

In the promo for the Super Bowl performance, NBC sportscaster Mike Tirico, who was accused of sexual harassment by several women during his ESPN career, interviews Justin. He jokingly asks about the “wardrobe thing.” Justin laughs, saying, “That won’t happen this time.”

Tone deaf, much? So he and Justin get to laugh about an incident that become a scarlet letter for Janet.

For over a decade, Justin has said he should have handled Nipplegate better. Yet he continues to act like a boob. This is a guy who says he supports #MeToo and #TimesUp but happily works with Woody Allen.

I get it, Justin is likable and charming and talented. But none of us are beyond accountability. Yet he continues to dodge it.

He told Beats 1 Radio DJ Zane Lowe he had his wires crossed and can’t change what happened, but he can move forward and learn from it. I wonder what he learned.

He claimed he and Janet made peace: “I don’t know that a lot of people know that. I don’t think it’s my job to do that because you value the relationships that you do have with people.”

In the promo for the Super Bowl performance, NBC sportscaster Mike Tirico, who was accused of sexual harassment by several women during his ESPN career, interviews Justin. He jokingly asks about the “wardrobe thing.” Justin laughs, saying, “That won’t happen this time.”

Tone deaf, much? So he and Justin get to laugh about an incident that become a scarlet letter for Janet.

For over a decade, Justin has said he should have handled Nipplegate better. Yet he continues to act like a boob. This is a guy who says he supports #MeToo and #TimesUp but happily works with Woody Allen.

I get it, Justin is likable and charming and talented. But none of us are beyond accountability. Yet he continues to dodge it.

He told Beats 1 Radio DJ Zane Lowe he had his wires crossed and can’t change what happened, but he can move forward and learn from it. I wonder what he learned.

He claimed he and Janet made peace: “I don’t know that a lot of people know that. I don’t think it’s my job to do that because you value the relationships that you do have with people.

It’s not his job to publicly right what was a very public and devastating wrong? He has said he’s not bringing Janet on stage at the Super Bowl. She doesn’t need it, but the gesture would mean a lot, much like when the Miss America pageant finally said sorry to Vanessa Williams three years ago. It was an apology that was three decades in the making –– they dethroned the first black woman to win the crown when nude photos were published without her consent.

On his new album, Justin has a song called “Say Something.” It’s inspired by a misunderstanding he had on Twitter about cultural appropriation.

He sings, “Sometimes, the greatest way to say something is to say nothing at all.”

Not this time, J.T. Say more. Do more. You can’t keep profiting off the culture and sitting on the sidelines when it counts.

On Super Bowl Sunday, without Janet, there’s something more insidious than Justin’s new folksy funky soul sound. Because he isn’t just a man of the woods. He’s a man of white privilege.
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Reply #16 posted 02/02/18 1:49pm

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nextedition said:

I dont know why people want janet at the sb. It did nothing for her and they threated her like shit. Why come back there?

yeahthat Justin Timberlake’s Glaring Time’s Up Hypocrisy https://www.thedailybeast...-hypocrisy

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Thanks for sharing. That was pretty bad what happened to Janet.

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Reply #17 posted 02/02/18 2:50pm

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The pre-super bowl press conference was held the other day. He was asked about guests. Jay Z, and Janet were mentioned, but he said his band will be his special guests. JJ prob won't be there. She still should be.

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Reply #18 posted 02/02/18 3:35pm

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I have zero enthusiasm for seeing Janet appear in the halftime show with him. The first time irreparably hurt her career and gave us the phrase "wardrobe malfunction."

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TrivialPursuit said:

The pre-super bowl press conference was held the other day. He was asked about guests. Jay Z, and Janet were mentioned, but he said his band will be his special guests. JJ prob won't be there. She still should be.

Nahhh.

It would be a nice surprise and if her and JT really, truly mended things then it's cool but Janet doesn't need the Superbowl and certainly not JT.

The Catch 22 is that without Janet, this Halftime Show is gonna be pretty bland.
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Reply #20 posted 02/02/18 5:17pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

The pre-super bowl press conference was held the other day. He was asked about guests. Jay Z, and Janet were mentioned, but he said his band will be his special guests. JJ prob won't be there. She still should be.

Nahhh. It would be a nice surprise and if her and JT really, truly mended things then it's cool but Janet doesn't need the Superbowl and certainly not JT. The Catch 22 is that without Janet, this Halftime Show is gonna be pretty bland.


I do believe they have mended their hurdle. I don't believe that her being at the Super Bowl this year is necessary to prove that. It's between two folks. However, I believe in an age of MeToo or TimesUp - and Justin being called out for alleged hypocrisy - it would be a good PR move and a great public gesture. It'd give feet to this words in the past about the situation.

I'm not sure it is going to be bland. JT puts on a good full-band show. I do wonder though, like you, if he doesn't have some tricks up his sleeve. I mean, who saw RHCP showing up for Bruno?

I betcha dollars to donuts he doesn't perform "Rock Your Body", though. LOL We'll know Sunday.

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It's been confirmed....... Janet Jackson No Surprise Appearance At Super Bowl Halftime Show http://www.tmz.com/2018/0...imberlake/

Janet Jackson won't be teaming up with Justin Timberlake during the Super Bowl halftime show to call back to their infamous "Nipplegate" performance, because she won't be there ... TMZ has officially confirmed. Janet tells TMZ ... "To put to rest any speculation or rumors as to whether I will be performing at the Super Bowl tomorrow: I will not." She adds .. "Thank you for your support and I do look forward to seeing you all very soon." Timberlake said in a press conference earlier this week that Janet wouldn't be taking the stage with him ... but now we know for certain.

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I just read there is gonna be on Sunday #JanetJacksonAppreciationDay on twitter. Nice idea thumbs up! Black Twitter Declares Super Bowl Sunday 'Janet Jackson Appreciation Day' https://www.iheart.com/co...ation-day/

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My fav Janet video the classic worship The Pleasure Principle (1986) its Everything nod

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I just read there is gonna be on Sunday #JanetJacksonAppreciationDay on twitter. Nice idea thumbs up! Black Twitter Declares Super Bowl Sunday 'Janet Jackson Appreciation Day' https://www.iheart.com/co...ation-day/

My fav Janet video the classic worship The Pleasure Principle (1986) its Everything nod


Definitely my favorite Janet song. And written by The Time's Monte Moir. I like the Twitter idea, too. Maybe I'll schedule a dozen throughout the day in Tweetdeck.

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Janet is a sweetheart; I love her.

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Reply #26 posted 02/04/18 1:05pm

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#JanetJacksonAppreciationDay is trending on Twitter (at current, it's #3). Jam & Lewis, & others have tweeted or RT'd about it.

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Been enjoying #JanetJacksonAppreciationDay I love this song and the message.... New Agenda music

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Janet Jackson fans, celebrities sing her praises during Timberlake's Super Bowl show http://abcnews.go.com/amp...ssion=true
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Laverne Cox https://mobile.twitter.com/Lavernecox
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This Twitter moment from the brilliant @KevinAllred reminds me of #EarthaKitt being blacklisted for 10 years for speaking out against the Vietnam War at the White House. But she endured & endures as does Miss Jackson #JanetJacksonAppreciationDay
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